Ordered 9/19. Still stuck at "delivery date will be updated soon" although I was originally promised a delivery date by 10/1. It changed sometime last week. Spoke with an agent today that said those dates are estimates, & may be delayed due to product availability. If they are not sure if they can fulfill the order by a certain date then they shouldn't give a delivery date at all. Will order next time directly from Apple or just change all 5 of my lines to a different carrier.