So what should my mobile network type be for 4G?

The 3G network on the Thunderbolt was set up as eHPRD when the my phone was activated. After the outage I am still on the EDVO Rev A version of the network. I did do the fix during the outage to get off the 1x. After 4G LTE was restored, I switched the setting back to eHPRD enabled. I have not been able to actually get eHPRD since then. I don't live in an area with 4G LTE around.

The LTE OnOff app will allow you to switch between CDMA + LTE/EDVO Auto and CDMA PRL (Auto)

yeah, I don't think it's 100% fixed. Contrary to what Verizon wants us to think. eHRPD prior to the outage and Rev A afterwards. Fixed? I think not. Rev-A fix or not, dental patient or not. Doesn't really seem to be a pattern between those that are getting Rev A in 3G areas. Maybe I'll get all the files downloaded and completely reset my phone back to stock while I'm in wilmington this weekend and see what happens in an LTE area.

Let us know how that goes PJ. I would be interested to see if you can get eHPRD there and keep it when you go back to a 3G only area.

Decided to test it in a 3G only area first in case I borked something, I'd still have access to fast file downloads. lol A complete restore later and still no eHRPD. Oh well, time to restore that "delayed" update. :smileywink:

It's too bad that "normal peope" should have to know all those technical acronyms. As an engineer, I am only comfy when I know exactly what they are. But, it should be optional - for us tech-o-philes having to it is a sign of immature technology.

So what are these things. For the techies, check out http://www.cdg.org/ the cdma dev group.

Also, GSM and CDMA standards are converging - http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/lte.htm

CDMA2000 and Long term evolution LTE (some 4G capable Verizon smartphones do voice over the LTE network)

Verizon 3G (HRPD) - 800/1900Mhz (note High Rate Packet Data is a 3G thingy). (see GSM equivalents)
Verizon 3.9G LTE (eHRPD) - 700Mhz (note: evolved High Rate Packet Data - a "4G" thingy)
Sprint 3G - CDMA 1900Mhz Only
Sprint 4G? - WiMAX 2.5Ghz

GSM System:

AT&T 3G - GSM 800/1900Mhz, HSDPA 800/1900 (select markets)
AT&T 4G LTE - 700Mhz frequency (when avail)
T-Mobile 3G - GSM/TDMA 800/1900Mhz "Voice", 1700/2100Mhz "Data"
T-Mobile 4G - HSPA+ 1700/2100Mhz

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CDMA Evolution

I thought AT&T used 850/1900 for their 3G or HSPA network?

sandyinmiami

Thanks for all the responses. I still have no signs of eHPRD. I have been able to pick up 4G when I drive through areas that have it. I used to have it at home, but not since the outage.

But I have to say that when I run speed test, the results are dismal whether I'm in rev A or 4G.

Nice analog cell phone Hi Ann, you have revealed yourself as a technophile. You are outed. :smileyhappy: Here's a pic of my first cell phone.

Technically, you are correct. Historically, these original analog cell phone frequencies (AMPS) were called the "800 MHz band" and they ran from 824-894 MHz. GSM, initially a 2G digital technology from Europe, and now worldwide, GSM-850 is a band that operates from 824-849 MHz for uplink, and 869-894 MHz for downlink. So, yoy see it covers almost a 100 MHz swath of spectrum. The middle of this range is about 850, so they changed the name of the band.

More importantly, in the USA, GSM-1900 (1850 - 1990) is the primary band used in urban areas with 850 as a backup - 850 was more commonly used in rural areas. In other parts of the world, GSM-900 (890 - 960) and GSM-1800 (1710-1890) are used.

More recently, new radio spectrum was auctioned for advanced service - Verizon bought a lot of 700 MHz for their LTE network and T-mobile bought spectrum at 1700 and 2100 MHz. , ATT owns spectrum in all these bands.

This one was my first cell phone on Alltel of all carriers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC

Nice phone. :smileywink: . They could not do much but they were nice and light. I always check the weight of anything I plan to have next to my ear. I'm not a fan of extra thingies esp. those that need to be charged separately. Once thing, that would be OK though, is a smartphone with an insertable bluetooth headset. When not in use, it slides into the phone for charging and effectively takes no more space. You may remember when companies competed on how small they could make a voice device. I still use a Nokia clam shell for voice and some SMS. It weighs 97 grams with battery. :smileyhappy:

VL600_Boston wrote:
Once thing, that would be OK though, is a smartphone with an insertable bluetooth headset.

So a smartphone-esque version of the Decoy?

Yeah, - the right idea. The LG Decoy - they may have a patent on that. Anyway, it should be a standard feature on all heavier phones. Kind like a the things those Navy Seals use. :smileyhappy: Go Navy!

Oh, and PS - Also with night vision goggles built in. :smileyhappy:

Ann154 wrote:
Let us know how that goes PJ. I would be interested to see if you can get eHPRD there and keep it when you go back to a 3G only area.

Well after a trip to LTE land and a complete restore, I was still unable to get eHRPD so it seems as though Verizon has just removed it entirely. Didn't have any issues with transitions between EVDO Rev A and LTE or network drop outs so I'm not really sure if or what we're actually missing out on by it not displaying eHRPD in 3G areas. Had I not bought the Thunderbolt prior to the LTEpocalypse, I would be none the wiser and think it was operating as it should.

Well shoot! I know of developer who worked so hard to get his app to work with the eHPRD signal. He had it working in beta just before the LTEpocalypse and now it seems it was all for naught. :smileysad: