Android to Droid and any other older Android phone Updates
dpeco
Newbie

I have the Droid.

I agree with a lot of you that I am mostly happy with it, however as some of you, I am also extremely **bleep** off about how the DROID f/k/a Droid Does, is being replaced w/in three months or so of being out.  I like Verizon, and really have no issues either way regarding ATT and the iPhone, however, the way Android and the manufacturers of the phones and the carriers are handling this concerns me.

 

1st, let me just say that the only way Motto Droid, or any older model phone that Verizon or any other carrier has on their plan will continue to be updated, is if Verizon Or any carrier,  wants it.  (If Motto wants to sell phones on their plan and Android wants to keep building is OS through one of the largest carriers, it needs Verizon.

 

2nd Why would any manufacturer do this? The more people it leaves out there wanting for the technology, the more people they will get to buy phones. The manufacturers could care less about the people on ANY Carriers, as they sell phones to all of them. The better OS their new phones have, the more people want to update their existing handsets...why update the droid to Nexus 1 if the Droid will get the Nexus 1 capabilities, right?

 

3rd, in my humble opinion, Google should not be selling phones, unless they build their own and market it, reason? Because they are issuing an OS for all carriers and makes of phones to use.

With them entering the Phone selling Market, they alienate all the people who have bought into their OS, by making sure their phones are at the top and sell better, and they also pit manufacturers against one another, not for our benefit, but for the manufacturer and Google. The Manufacturers now will not care about the Top phones they just produced, but instead are fighting to get the next big contract that Google decides is going to get their latest version, because it 1 puts them in the forefront of the industry, and 2, keeps Google in the news. Why would Motto want to update Droid or even push for it, if it knows it will be getting the next generation of Nexus for Google. It will want that to be the top, not the druid. How will it sell more Nexus G's if the druid can do everything the nexus 2 can.

 

***********I am seriously thinking about buying out of my contract with Google and Verizon, with my Droid and My wife's Iris, and going to AT & T and the iPhone. At least when there is an update to the OS, every phone gets it, not the ones that some **bleep** in management decides should have it, and if the iPhone you have is too old to receive the update, most likely it is time for a new two year update and they help you with it, however my Droid is less than 4 months old and already....it is the third best thing out. 

At least iPhone owners do  not have to say that. Even their 2 G runs the OS and the apps the same as the 3gs, maybe not as fast, but it does do it from what I am told.

I am not an iPhone fan, and this pains me, but I am sure most of you all cannot keep up with new tech, and buying new phones every 4 months. It is hard enough to do it every two years, however if you want your phone to be able to do what the next best thing is, you have to buy a new phone, even though the phone you have has the hardware capabilities.

 

At least with Windows, if your computer has windows 98 and you want to upgrade, you can at least have th eooption to buy it and it will install and have all the features of the newer version, no questions asked.  This is not even being offered here. the only way to upgrade to 2.1 or any other new OS coming out is to "root?" your phone which I see could negate warrenties and possibly ruin the phone/....... In My opinion just plain **bleep**ty!

 

My 2 and 1/2 cents, take it for what it is worth, 2 and 1/2 cents :smileywink:

 

 

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logicman
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It sounds like you are convinced that the Droid is now a dead end and there will be no further updates to its firmware. What are you basing that ridiculous assumption on? Because Android 2.1 hasn't arrived yet for the Droid? Take a deep breath and calm down. It's coming. BTW, it's Moto not Motto.

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dpeco
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I am NOT saying it is a dead end, that was not my point to the stmt at all. read again.

I am only stating the obvious. They are out to make money, No? If so, what benefit would thay have by updating the phones already out...especially in a timely fashion.

There are phones out there with 1.5, 1.6 ..... on an on. Why not bring new phones out with the new OS? Not 1.6? Any reason? Should not be a price point for them (The carriers and Manufacturers, as that should be in their screens and memory and other bells and whistles. etc, etc)

I am not saying that 2.1 won't come out for Droid, I am saying it will be on Verizons terms, with imput from Google and manufacturers, and that will be when they have something in the hopper to bring out as the next best thing, rather than keeping the OS current.

 

I just feel the OS should be just that...the OS and just like with Windows, when there is a new update or upgrade, like my computer does, it should update it. There should be a fix in the OS Update, that depending on thej phone you have and the firmware etc, it should be able to choose and update it accordingly.

This other crap is just fuel for the moneymaking fire.

 

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logicman
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I think you need to go back to that other thread you started, Android Updates, and read some of the responses, especially what fezzik and supitsmike added. Bottom line, it ain't that simple.

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dpeco
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You may be right, as stated in the thread, I am not a tech person or developer, but everything I read, appears that the android OS is fairly straight forward and could be done.

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dpeco
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I did go back to the thread and read, and I agree with His Post entirely (supitsmike) I think it was. He was very insightful as was the other, but a least I got one thing right according to them which has bveen a thorn in my side...Google should not be building exclusives...It will mess the whole works up, trust me on this.

 

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supitsmike
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dpeco wrote:

I did go back to the thread and read, and I agree with His Post entirely (supitsmike) I think it was. He was very insightful as was the other, but a least I got one thing right according to them which has bveen a thorn in my side...Google should not be building exclusives...It will mess the whole works up, trust me on this.

 


 

By Merlin's beard, mate, what do you want them to do? It's a business! Having other phones pit against each other may not be particularly smart for the consumer. But it's really smart for the business. Why? Because guys like me *need* to have the latest and greatest. That's why.

 

Look, what you're experiencing is the essence of technology. Something always greater is coming right around the corner. Objectively one could say that they prefer the Nexus one. Whether it be the better processor or OS, who knows. But What I'm saying is that there are slight (and believe me, they are slight) differences between the two aside from the physical design.

 

You can say Google shouldn't be going into the phone arena, but they have and they can. They are just getting their toes wet.

 

-If you want 2.1 that bad to complain about it. Blame Motorola. Google gave them the APK, they have it. What they are doing with it, I don't know.

 

-Google is in the phone business, and when they release the APK, not all phones will be able to carry it. I think it was someone in the Google I/O event discussing the Nexus one who said something along the lines of: 'My computer that's five years old can't run Vista.' Same thing with phones. If you expect the G1, or even the Eris to recieve the full (Notice I said "full" instead of "none", they announced in the event that they will 'bring as much of 2.1 as possible to all devices') 2.1 update, you're in for a surprise -- it won't. Thus is the nature of homogenization between hardware, software, and OS.

 

 

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wademac
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supitsmike nailed it, but dpeco I understand your frustration....

 

Unfortunately, anyone who buys the latest and greatest phone (or computer, or gaming system, etc.) ends up feeling just like you do.....a few months ago I was the once-proud owner of a Blackberry Storm and was p'ed off (along with many others) that RIM and Verizon was turning their backs on me by releasing the Storm2....

 

I am somewhat concerned that Google is now in the phone business with Nexus One...seems like there's a great potential for them to hold off releasing the latest (and greatest) OS update so that the Nexus One keeps a leg up on everyone else....

 

like mike said....it's business, nothing more.....whether it's Google or Verizon or Motorola, they're going to do what makes them money....

 

I don't think the solution though is for you to go out and buy an Iphone.....I think you would be giving yourself even less options than you have now.....I really think that in the next few weeks we'll see a 2.1 update for our Droids, along with Flash 10, and we will be amazed.......

 

.......at least until Google releases 2.2 for the Nexus One!

 

 

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tsauter
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The only thing that is certain with any Technology is..........It is obsolete by the time you leave the store with your new purchase!

 

It can be frustrating but that is never going to change. Tech is developing to fast.

 

As far as the Andriod OS is concerned, you can bet that at the greatest 2 maybe 3 models will be (hardware) capable of running any given major release. Given the time it takes to develop both hardware and software, and the business thinking of "give them only what is just enough", there will never be one platform that can handle an entire life cycle of an OS.

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supitsmike
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tsauter wrote:

The only thing that is certain with any Technology is..........It is obsolete by the time you leave the store with your new purchase! 

 


 

Amen!

 


 It can be frustrating but that is never going to change. Tech is developing too (edited that one for ya) fast.


Preciesely. It's forever growing. There are some pieces of hardware that can sustain and hold it's own for a while before something tremendously better comes along.

 

 


As far as the Andriod OS is concerned, you can bet that at the greatest 2 maybe 3 models will be (hardware) capable of running any given major release. Given the time it takes to develop both hardware and software, and the business thinking of "give them only what is just enough", there will never be one platform that can handle an entire life cycle of an OS.


Well said. I'm a firm believer that the Droid and Nexus are the top two devices right now that can handle 2.1/future updates. That being said, I'm not worried about it coming to our phones, because Moto actually announced that they will send it to us.

 

@Bolded, Unless, of course, your OS stays consistently the same way. Hello iPhone?

 

 

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