Re: Oreo update for LG G6
Tidbits
Legend

joshcali wrote:

"It isn't up to the carriers it's up to the OEMs. If they make it carriers will release it."

Well, the lg V10 got nougat... so LG obviously made it. Looks like T-Mobile got on the ball and made their version but verizon didn't.

I think the way it works is

1- Google creates new android version

2- Manufacturer modifies it for their phones
3- carrier makes their custom version with their software (my verizon, etc...).

In this case...
We know #1, google created Nougat and released it.
We know #2 because T-Mobile and lots of other carriers released Nougat for the V10, so obviously LG made a version

What looks like it failed is #3. Verizon didn't make their custom version with their software for the V10.

So you know 100% LG made it for the Verizon version?  If you got it then you got a case, but if you don't then LG could have given up much like Sony or even Motorola did with a variety of their products.

Also carriers don't make their custom versions.  That is all handled by OEMS.  This was also admitted in court, and also OEMs released schedules for their devices once before and all of them said they handled the code, but people glossed over it.  It isn't the days of BREW.  No OEM is going to give proprietary code to carriers.  Android is open source to a point.  Kernel is GPL, and Android itself is ASL which allows proprietary code stay that way.  This is why you don't see source code for Touchwiz, Sense, and what not from OEM's.

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Re: Oreo update for LG G6
joshcali
Newbie

Tidbits wrote:

Also carriers don't make their custom versions. That is all handled by OEMS. This was also admitted in court, and also OEMs released schedules for their devices once before and all of them said they handled the code, but people glossed over it.

Even if that's true, then T-Mobile somehow got a version out of LG and Verizon didn't?

c'mon.

The carrier probably funds the release and T-Mobile decided to fund it and Verizon didn't, but somehow T-Mobile and other carriers got that release, so it's a pretty good assumption verizon didn't go the distance to make sure we got nougat like t-mobile did.

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Re: Oreo update for LG G6
Tidbits
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joshcali wrote:

Tidbits wrote:

Also carriers don't make their custom versions. That is all handled by OEMS. This was also admitted in court, and also OEMs released schedules for their devices once before and all of them said they handled the code, but people glossed over it.

Even if that's true, then T-Mobile somehow got a version out of LG and Verizon didn't?

c'mon.

The carrier probably funds the release and T-Mobile decided to fund it and Verizon didn't, but somehow T-Mobile and other carriers got that release, so it's a pretty good assumption verizon didn't go the distance to make sure we got nougat like t-mobile did.

LG stopped developing.  They have different teams for each project, and not all V10 around the world got updates so how come those didn't get it either?  Did Verizon stop those from getting updates as well?

Also why should Verizon fund a release of an update for a product they do not control nor make money off of?  Remember there were a whole bunch of court cases in the late 2000 and each one points to OEM's not supporting their products like they should including AOSP project between Sony and Google.

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Re: Oreo update for LG G6
Tidbits
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wanted to add there are various other devices around that time didn't get updates from T-Mobile and other carriers as well.  So did carriers pick and choose what got updates and what they were willing to pay for or simply did oems deemed their least profitable carriers got delayed updates and possibly dropped support since it didn't make profit enough to work on updates?  Something else to ponder.

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Re: Oreo update for LG G6
boringusername
Master - Level 1

joshcali wrote:

Tidbits wrote:

Also carriers don't make their custom versions. That is all handled by OEMS. This was also admitted in court, and also OEMs released schedules for their devices once before and all of them said they handled the code, but people glossed over it.

Even if that's true, then T-Mobile somehow got a version out of LG and Verizon didn't?

c'mon.

The carrier probably funds the release and T-Mobile decided to fund it and Verizon didn't, but somehow T-Mobile and other carriers got that release, so it's a pretty good assumption verizon didn't go the distance to make sure we got nougat like t-mobile did.

Just go switch to t-mobile already. You're not getting Nougat for the V10. Nuff said.

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