Curious if Verizon will have a seperate pre-order than apple will.

Just going by all past new iPhones, you can order on Verizon or Apple or Best Buy or .....

For some, the benefit of using Verizon is the line access discount you get by using their device payment plan. If you order directly from Apple...there is no guarantee that Verizon will still offer said discount to you...

Order from a carrier will ALWAYS be a hot mess. The problem is how Apple does logistics. Their stock and their orders first before they hand any to carriers. Has always been that way.

When you buy a phone at the discounted 2 year contract price, Verizon is recovering the difference through the increased line access cost ($40). That was still the case back before the shared data plans and device payment plans; the increased cost was just hidden and there were no real incentives to be out of contract.Now that more carriers are ending device subsidies, plan costs go down since the carriers no longer have to recover these subsidies. So, the customer is simply agreeing to NOT have Verizon subsidize their phone with a 2 year contract - whether that means paying full retail price through Verizon or buying a phone elsewhere.

According to this article you will still get a discount as long as you are not under contract - Verizon to give discounts to customers with off-contract phones | iMoreI contacted Verizon customer care and was told the discount would still apply, at $25 per line, as long as I was still on the more everything plan. If I updated my plan to one of their new plans that discount would go away, but it would be replaced with a $20 discount that applies to their new plans.TL;DR - You should be able to keep your $25 discount unless you change plans, in which case it will be $20.

If you're not in a 2 year contract you should qualify for some sort of line discount. If you lose your line discount for finishing your device payment plan, you can just login to your account and add the month to month line discount for the same amount.

Interesting that you ask that. I specifically asked what would happen if I purchased the device through Apple and then activated that device on Verizon's network. The CSR told me that I would lose the discount.I wasn't aware there was a difference between the 'device payment discount' and the 'month to month discount' -- so I didn't know to ask. I've noticed, however, that my bill now states '$25 OFF SMARTPHONE MONTH2MONTH' instead of "$25 SP DEVICE PAYMENT DISC". So perhaps I could have purchased through Apple, after all. I don't know what the difference is nor do know how to go about getting a clear answer.FYI: Even I could purchase through Apple, I'm not sure I would want to. I find third-party insurance (e.g., SquareTrade) to be much more cost-effective and useful than Apple Care (which, it's my understanding, inflates the price of the device if purchased under Apple's new upgrade plan).

Did you ask though, if you could then add the month to month discount for the same amount? You didn't ask the right question.

Verizon may still throw a trade in incentive like they did last year with the iPhone 6 - I think it was $200 for any iPhone. I sent in a 4 and a 4S and got $200 for each. That may sway some on where they buy.

I was wondering that also they also a lower deductible then Aursion. If you don't have good credit you wouldn't be able to go through Apple. I like the ideal you can upgrade every year. The phone will also be unlock which you use at any carrier if purchased from Apple.

Thanks, this is a point I hadn't considered. And which no one else made!

When the pre-order goes on sale for the iPhone 6s will we be able to pre-order from the Verizon Website, or will we have to go through Apple's website?

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Line access charge used to be $40 on the More Everything, and when you came off contract you got the $25 discount if you have greater than 6GB of data. If you have already switched from More Everything to "The Verizon Plan", the line access fee is $20.

Essentially, Verizon made their plans more a la carte, and simplified the understanding of your bill. It's a pretty good model, and one that allows you to understand what the different charges are.

So, the discount is a mute point. In fact, I think this topic is a mute point, because you can pre-order on the website.

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