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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
kizmazz
Enthusiast - Level 2
‎06-24-2011 02:27 AM

No ,all Verizon will say that his SSN is not in their system and he needs to get an Attorney..

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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
vereyezuhn
Master - Level 3
‎06-24-2011 02:45 AM
kizmazz wrote:

So we have to hire an Attorney to get Verizon to straighten out their mess? It might be easier to take the phone to AT&T and switch companies and pay Verizon their penalty for being a bad customer. I am pretty sure that will be cheaper than hiring an Attorney.


Verizon's and AT&T's phones cannot be used on the other's networks. The iPhone would then become useless to him (which is what you're trying to avoid, from what I gather)

 

This definitely sounds like an employee thing, and I think atleast a mod on here should look into this, it's happened before. Verizon really needs to be aware of their employees that do this.

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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
Jax_Omen
Specialist - Level 3
‎06-24-2011 01:21 PM
The only people who can delete/change an SSN are their credit check department.

Besides, if there's really no SSN on the account, how can they take you to collections if you terminate early? I strongly question this whole situation. Either there's something your son isn't telling you or something you aren't telling us, Verizon has call centers all over the country, there's no way for them to have any kind of collusion to steal your son's iphone.
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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
vereyezuhn
Master - Level 3
‎06-24-2011 04:20 PM
Jax_Omen wrote:
The only people who can delete/change an SSN are their credit check department.

Besides, if there's really no SSN on the account, how can they take you to collections if you terminate early? I strongly question this whole situation. Either there's something your son isn't telling you or something you aren't telling us, Verizon has call centers all over the country, there's no way for them to have any kind of collusion to steal your son's iphone.


I agree that this is fishy. That's why I mentioned something about the poster's son's friends.... I've never even heard of "cloning" before this post, let alone it happening to someone on Verizon.

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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
Jax_Omen
Specialist - Level 3
‎06-24-2011 04:32 PM
I've heard of cloning, but I haven't actually heard of a confirmed case of it happening in a long time. Like, not since 3g was the newest thing around.
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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
21stNow
Master - Level 1
‎06-24-2011 09:02 PM
Jax_Omen wrote:
I've heard of cloning, but I haven't actually heard of a confirmed case of it happening in a long time. Like, not since 3g was the newest thing around.

I had heard of cloning over ten years ago and thought that it had died with 3G.  Several months ago, I heard a news story on it that talked about people sniffing from the side of the road or overpasses while cars are driving by.  It could have been a FUD story on a slow news day, though.

 

Anyway, I agree, something is missing from this story.  But the OP would be better off with a new phone.

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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
Jax_Omen
Specialist - Level 3
‎06-24-2011 09:41 PM
The sniffing you're referring to is for GSM networks, not CDMA. someone reverse-engineered the GSM encryption and it's possible to create a fake GSM tower that connects to the real towers, so the phone user doesn't even know they've jumped to a compromised connection. Kinda scary. nothing like that out there for CDMA, to the best of my knowledge.
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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
djc6
Enthusiast - Level 3
‎06-25-2011 03:45 PM

There was recently an issue with the Verizon iPad 2 where they were issuing duplicate MEIDs.  Maybe something similar is happening with the Verizon iPhone? :smileyhappy:  Maybe there are two iPhones out there with the same MEID:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/20110612/tc_digitaltrends/verizonipad2recallorderedforsmallnum...

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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
21stNow
Master - Level 1
‎06-25-2011 08:47 PM
Jax_Omen wrote:
The sniffing you're referring to is for GSM networks, not CDMA. someone reverse-engineered the GSM encryption and it's possible to create a fake GSM tower that connects to the real towers, so the phone user doesn't even know they've jumped to a compromised connection. Kinda scary. nothing like that out there for CDMA, to the best of my knowledge.

The sniffing that was mentioned in the news story referred to CDMA phones, as they were warning Sprint and VZW users.  The story hardly mentioned SIM card cloning, or anything else related to GSM phones.  They just said enough to say that GSM users weren't safe either.

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Re: I Phone Cloned Twice
Michaelvzn
Contributor - Level 1
‎06-26-2011 01:04 PM

Allow me to sound stupid (being a parent of a boy and girl) who have come up with various reasons for their devices and information contained on their devices to be viewed, accessed by people (friends included) as well as charges incurred unexpectedly.  Some of their explanations have ranged from cloning to the service provider doing it magically.

 

what precisely is happening with the device, information contained on the device etc which leads you to believe its been cloned also is this the first physical device ever used or a replacement device meaning its a sister device informationally (potentially)

 

I apologize to revisiting this issue, but i need to get a truer picture on the situation at hand and what is the age of the user and who is the account under (parent or child) where the child needs to authenticate information in some manner shape or form and has to provide information.

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