can i occasionally use my smartphone sim in my ipad

[ricardo1234]

Can I occasionally use my smartphone sim in my ipad.

Both devices are verizon devices and use the same size sim.

The phone is mine and currently using my grandfathered unlimited data/450 minute plan.

The ipad was given to me by a friend who previously had it on a verizon data plan.

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ricardo1234

Member

7 hours ago

"Can I occasionally use my smartphone sim in my ipad.

Both devices are verizon devices and use the same size sim.

The phone is mine and currently using my grandfathered unlimited data/450 minute plan.

The ipad was given to me by a friend who previously had it on a verizon data plan."

Excellent question Ricardo1234. Ignore the misinformation the previous posters replied to you. They are trying to discourage you from using your SIM card in an iPad. The beauty that the grandfathered unlimited data plan that you have is that you CAN just take the SIM card out of your phone and place it in your iPad. I recommend you buy a used jetpack and place your SIM card in that. That way you'll be able to use your iPad, phone and laptop all at the same time. Another plus is that I believe your speed will be greater if you use a MiFi device. Your grandfathered unlimited data will NOT DROP. I have my SIM card on a MiFi device and I leave it there all the time. With the Verizon messages app, my calls and messages come through as if I had my SIM card on my phone. Phone function works as if it had a SIM card except the native calling and texting app.

Don't be a sucker and let these posters here try to persuade you to go with the more expensive "unlimited" data plans. With those new plans, it is against the terms of conditions to swap your SIM card onto "non compatible" device.

[Benitez147 · Accepted solution]

"Can I occasionally use my smartphone sim in my ipad.

Both devices are verizon devices and use the same size sim.

The phone is mine and currently using my grandfathered unlimited data/450 minute plan.

The ipad was given to me by a friend who previously had it on a verizon data plan."

Excellent question Ricardo1234. Ignore the misinformation the previous posters replied to you. They are trying to discourage you from using your SIM card in an iPad. The beauty that the grandfathered unlimited data plan that you have is that you CAN just take the SIM card out of your phone and place it in your iPad. I recommend you buy a used jetpack and place your SIM card in that. That way you'll be able to use your iPad, phone and laptop all at the same time. Another plus is that I believe your speed will be greater if you use a MiFi device. Your grandfathered unlimited data will NOT DROP. I have my SIM card on a MiFi device and I leave it there all the time. With the Verizon messages app, my calls and messages come through as if I had my SIM card on my phone. Phone function works as if it had a SIM card except the native calling and texting app.

Don't be a sucker and let these posters here try to persuade you to go with the more expensive "unlimited" data plans. With those new plans, it is against the terms of conditions to swap your SIM card onto "non compatible" device.

[Benitez147 · Accepted solution]

Tigerstep said: "This is terrible advice. There's been customers who've done just that only to be sent threatening emails of switching devices to an appropriate one or lose the plan.

Just because someone stole a candy bar and got away with it doesn't mean the next person doing it won't get caught. Your post should be removed for encouraging TOS violations.

If someone on this forum is able to find your VZW account, don't be surprised if you're suddenly being audited."

How is it terrible advice? With his plan, he is able to use multiple devices at the same time. Why limit yourself to just one when his intention is to want to use multiple devices. As I stated before, I have had a micro sim card on my jetpack for YEARS and I have never received any letters threatning to cut me off. I think you have it confused for people who live in the boonies and are roaming and Verizon cut them off because they are costing the company money or people who bought those plans from eBay brokers and they got that plan illegally. I live in the city and use my unlimited data as I see fit. No deprioritazion and no slowing down during peak hours.

That's a very stupid analogy about someone stealing a candy bar, no one stole anything. I pay for this plan and I am use it as I see fit. I am well within terms and conditions for MY plan. Your past posts should be removed for the condecending way you type to people. Maybe you have been in the zoo too long that you don't go out.

Someone on this forum can look at my account and they will not do anything.

[ricardo1234 · Accepted solution]

This is a reply to my own original post because the well-meaning responders seemed to be all over the place with their answers. I decided to go direct to VZW via chat and I am happy to report that I am allowed to move the sim between my phone and ipad whenever I want to browse the web over 4G from my ipad. And it will not jeopardize my plan.

Below is a portion of my online chat with VZW for those who would like to see something in writing from the company. I will do a final reply after I try it later to let those who care know how it goes. Thanks to all who took the time to read or respond to my question.

Verizon-You will need to remove the sim card from the LG G7 thinq from your device and turn the device OFF and insert the sim card on the IPad after that turn ON the device (IPad) ensure that the LG G7 is turned off.
You-so it is OK to take sim out of phone, put in ipad? use it in ipad ?. then put back in phone and use in phone ...and do this on occasion whenever I want to browse web over 4g from ipad?
Verizon-Absolutely!
Verizon-Yes, it's the correct procedure which can follow for your occasionally as per your convenience.
You-and I wont cause my grandfathered unlimited data / nationwide 450 minutes plan to get lost/changed/canceled?
Verizon-No, there will be no effect on the Unlimited plan rest assured.
Verizon-All you need to is put the sim card to the IPad and that will do.

[ricardo1234 · Accepted solution]

Final update - I have returned the sim to my phone and it works as it should. I also checked my account info and I am still listed as having my original plan - nothing seems to have changed. So, I'll call it a happy outcome and I'll not be afraid to use my phone sim in my ipad one those special occasions when I'll need my ipad more than my phone. Hope this thread helps others who share my original concerns.

[mama23dogs]

You can try, it might work. 

[rcschnoor]

You should be VERY careful when doing this. Verizon has separate plan categories for phones and tablets. Placing your SIM card from your phone in your iPad may automatically switch your plan from a phone plan to a tablet plan and therefore losing your grandfathered unlimited data. Once the plan is switched, it could be very hard if not impossible to get your previous plan(i.e. grandfathered unlimited data) back.

[Ann154]

I agree with rcschnoor. The iPad is coded differently from the iPhone in the Verizon Wireless system. 

[vzw_customer_support]

We would recommend getting an individual SIM. JoelD_VZW

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ricardo1234

Member

7 hours ago

"Can I occasionally use my smartphone sim in my ipad.

Both devices are verizon devices and use the same size sim.

The phone is mine and currently using my grandfathered unlimited data/450 minute plan.

The ipad was given to me by a friend who previously had it on a verizon data plan."

Excellent question Ricardo1234. Ignore the misinformation the previous posters replied to you. They are trying to discourage you from using your SIM card in an iPad. The beauty that the grandfathered unlimited data plan that you have is that you CAN just take the SIM card out of your phone and place it in your iPad. I recommend you buy a used jetpack and place your SIM card in that. That way you'll be able to use your iPad, phone and laptop all at the same time. Another plus is that I believe your speed will be greater if you use a MiFi device. Your grandfathered unlimited data will NOT DROP. I have my SIM card on a MiFi device and I leave it there all the time. With the Verizon messages app, my calls and messages come through as if I had my SIM card on my phone. Phone function works as if it had a SIM card except the native calling and texting app.

Don't be a sucker and let these posters here try to persuade you to go with the more expensive "unlimited" data plans. With those new plans, it is against the terms of conditions to swap your SIM card onto "non compatible" device.

[Benitez147 · Accepted solution]

"Can I occasionally use my smartphone sim in my ipad.

Both devices are verizon devices and use the same size sim.

The phone is mine and currently using my grandfathered unlimited data/450 minute plan.

The ipad was given to me by a friend who previously had it on a verizon data plan."

Excellent question Ricardo1234. Ignore the misinformation the previous posters replied to you. They are trying to discourage you from using your SIM card in an iPad. The beauty that the grandfathered unlimited data plan that you have is that you CAN just take the SIM card out of your phone and place it in your iPad. I recommend you buy a used jetpack and place your SIM card in that. That way you'll be able to use your iPad, phone and laptop all at the same time. Another plus is that I believe your speed will be greater if you use a MiFi device. Your grandfathered unlimited data will NOT DROP. I have my SIM card on a MiFi device and I leave it there all the time. With the Verizon messages app, my calls and messages come through as if I had my SIM card on my phone. Phone function works as if it had a SIM card except the native calling and texting app.

Don't be a sucker and let these posters here try to persuade you to go with the more expensive "unlimited" data plans. With those new plans, it is against the terms of conditions to swap your SIM card onto "non compatible" device.

[Ann154]

You are also violating the terms of your customer agreement. The none of the 4G LTE capable Jetpacks, USB modems or tablets are allowed on an unlimited data line with the Nationwide Plan with grandfathered unlimited smartphone data plan feature. Those devices were also forbidden to be on the long retired unlimited mobile broadband plan since the first 4G LTE USB modem was announced in 2009. 

[Benitez147]

Ann 154 said: "You are also violating the terms of your customer agreement. The none of the 4G LTE capable Jetpacks, USB modems or tablets are allowed on an unlimited data line with the Nationwide Plan with grandfathered unlimited smartphone data plan feature. Those devices were also forbidden to be on the long retired unlimited mobile broadband plan since the first 4G LTE USB modem was announced in 2009."

Stop spreading misinformation again and I am not violating the terms and conditions of anything. People who have grandfathered plans are ALLOWED to place our sim card in any 4G capable device and not be used against us when Verizon outbid google for the 700 Mhz C Block spectrum. I have had my sim card on a jetpack for YEARS and I do so because my plan allows it. Don't spread misinformation to people with older plans when you and Verizon clearly want them off that plan.

and I quote the this website phonenews.com article stating, "It’s no secret if you poke around, that you can pull your smartphone SIM card out and use it with all sorts of other devices. From the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE, to portable hotspot devices like the Novatel MiFi, people have been doing that for awhile. In fact, Verizon was required to…

Verizon appears to be abiding by spectrum auction terms set by the FCC, and is not kicking people off their data plans. The coveted 700 MHz spectrum that Verizon licensed had strings attached… powerful strings. Specifically, the auction rules forbid a carrier from blocking end-user device changes with serial-number restrictions.

In other words, the FCC wanted to ensure that if a user swapped LTE SIMs (when using the new spectrum) that it would be the consumer’s choice to do so, sans penalty."

[Ann154]

The 4G LTE mobile broadband devices have never been allowed to on the non-prioritized unlimited plans. 

https://www.verizon.com/about/news/vzw/2010/12/pr2010-11-30a

[Benitez147]

Ann154 said: "The 4G LTE mobile broadband devices have never been allowed to on the non-prioritized unlimited plans."

That article is just discussing the introduction to the 4G on Verizon Wireless. It also spoke about Verizon introducing tiered data plans which costs people more money. But if people already had 3G unlimited data, Verizon had to let them upgrade to a 4G capable device. One of those C block spectrum condition was that Verizon is NOT allowed to tell people what they can use their unlimited data on whether it be a phone or an iPad device hence why I am able to place my sim card in a jetpack and not be penalized.  

[Ann154]

Benetez147 wrote: "That article is just discussing the introduction to the 4G on Verizon Wireless. It also spoke about Verizon introducing tiered data plans which costs people more money. But if people already had 3G unlimited data, Verizon had to let them upgrade to a 4G capable device. One of those C block spectrum condition was that Verizon is NOT allowed to tell people what they can use their unlimited data on whether it be a phone or an iPad device hence why I am able to place my sim card in a jetpack and not be penalized."

You left out an important detail.  Only the smartphones could upgraded to 4G LTE without changing their plan in 2010. The Verizon Wireless let 3G EDVO smartphones be upgraded to 4G LTE smartphones without changing their plan for a few years. The owners of the 3G EDVO mobile broadband devices are required to switch to a tiered data plan or one of current unlimited data with hotspot speed restrictions. There are a number discussions in this community forum that go into detail about this subject and many of them I participated in. 

[Benitez147]

Ann154 said: "You left out an important detail.  Only the smartphones could upgraded to 4G LTE without changing their plan in 2010. The Verizon Wireless let 3G EDVO smartphones be upgraded to 4G LTE smartphones without changing their plan for a few years. The owners of the 3G EDVO mobile broadband devices are required to switch to a tiered data plan or one of current unlimited data with hotspot speed restrictions. There are a number discussions in this community forum that go into detail about this subject and many of them I participated in."

Yes, that is correct. Once those smartphones went into the 4G technology, then they are allowed to swap their SIM card onto other devices without penalty. You are correct about 3G mobile broadband devices not being able to upgrade to 4G. I didn't comment on 3G mobile broadband devices as I never had one.

[vzw_customer_support]

We want to make sure all answers have been provided. Let us know if there are any further questions. We are here at all times of the day. We are here for you. 
JavierD_VZW

[Tigerstep]

This is terrible advice. There's been customers who've done just that only to be sent threatening emails of switching devices to an appropriate one or lose the plan.

Just because someone stole a candy bar and got away with it doesn't mean the next person doing it won't get caught. Your post should be removed for encouraging TOS violations.

If someone on this forum is able to find your VZW account, don't be surprised if you're suddenly being audited.

[Benitez147 · Accepted solution]

Tigerstep said: "This is terrible advice. There's been customers who've done just that only to be sent threatening emails of switching devices to an appropriate one or lose the plan.

Just because someone stole a candy bar and got away with it doesn't mean the next person doing it won't get caught. Your post should be removed for encouraging TOS violations.

If someone on this forum is able to find your VZW account, don't be surprised if you're suddenly being audited."

How is it terrible advice? With his plan, he is able to use multiple devices at the same time. Why limit yourself to just one when his intention is to want to use multiple devices. As I stated before, I have had a micro sim card on my jetpack for YEARS and I have never received any letters threatning to cut me off. I think you have it confused for people who live in the boonies and are roaming and Verizon cut them off because they are costing the company money or people who bought those plans from eBay brokers and they got that plan illegally. I live in the city and use my unlimited data as I see fit. No deprioritazion and no slowing down during peak hours.

That's a very stupid analogy about someone stealing a candy bar, no one stole anything. I pay for this plan and I am use it as I see fit. I am well within terms and conditions for MY plan. Your past posts should be removed for the condecending way you type to people. Maybe you have been in the zoo too long that you don't go out.

Someone on this forum can look at my account and they will not do anything.

[ricardo1234 · Accepted solution]

This is a reply to my own original post because the well-meaning responders seemed to be all over the place with their answers. I decided to go direct to VZW via chat and I am happy to report that I am allowed to move the sim between my phone and ipad whenever I want to browse the web over 4G from my ipad. And it will not jeopardize my plan.

Below is a portion of my online chat with VZW for those who would like to see something in writing from the company. I will do a final reply after I try it later to let those who care know how it goes. Thanks to all who took the time to read or respond to my question.

Verizon-You will need to remove the sim card from the LG G7 thinq from your device and turn the device OFF and insert the sim card on the IPad after that turn ON the device (IPad) ensure that the LG G7 is turned off.
You-so it is OK to take sim out of phone, put in ipad? use it in ipad ?. then put back in phone and use in phone ...and do this on occasion whenever I want to browse web over 4g from ipad?
Verizon-Absolutely!
Verizon-Yes, it's the correct procedure which can follow for your occasionally as per your convenience.
You-and I wont cause my grandfathered unlimited data / nationwide 450 minutes plan to get lost/changed/canceled?
Verizon-No, there will be no effect on the Unlimited plan rest assured.
Verizon-All you need to is put the sim card to the IPad and that will do.

[rcschnoor]

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@ricardo1234 wrote:

You-and I wont cause my grandfathered unlimited data / nationwide 450 minutes plan to get lost/changed/canceled?
Verizon-No, there will be no effect on the Unlimited plan rest assured.
Verizon-All you need to is put the sim card to the IPad and that will do.

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And yet on this forum you probably see the majority of threads with people complaining they were told one thing by Verizon only to find out that what they were told didn't turn out to be true... Just sayin...

Regardless, if it works for you, GREAT.

[Benitez147]

Ricardo1234: This is a reply to my own original post because the well-meaning responders seemed to be all over the place with their answers. I decided to go direct to VZW via chat and I am happy to report that I am allowed to move the sim between my phone and ipad whenever I want to browse the web over 4G from my ipad. And it will not jeopardize my plan.

Below is a portion of my online chat with VZW for those who would like to see something in writing from the company. I will do a final reply after I try it later to let those who care know how it goes. Thanks to all who took the time to read or respond to my question.

Verizon-You will need to remove the sim card from the LG G7 thinq from your device and turn the device OFF and insert the sim card on the IPad after that turn ON the device (IPad) ensure that the LG G7 is turned off.
You-so it is OK to take sim out of phone, put in ipad? use it in ipad ?. then put back in phone and use in phone ...and do this on occasion whenever I want to browse web over 4g from ipad?
Verizon-Absolutely!
Verizon-Yes, it's the correct procedure which can follow for your occasionally as per your convenience.
You-and I wont cause my grandfathered unlimited data / nationwide 450 minutes plan to get lost/changed/canceled?
Verizon-No, there will be no effect on the Unlimited plan rest assured.
Verizon-All you need to is put the sim card to the IPad and that will do."

Thank you for providing the correct answer and what I have been telling these "experts" all along. Hopefully they read this information and if someone in the future is asking the same question, they can provide them with the correct information instead of trying to tell them lies about this plan. A lot of people are angry that some of us still have this plan because it offers great benefits as opposed to those new "unlimited" data plans that it would be a violation of the terms of condition. Enjoy happy streaming and no buffering.

Keep in mind though that sometimes those verizon representatives provide false information as well.

[rcschnoor]

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@Benitez147 wrote:

Thank you for providing the correct answer and what I have been telling these "experts" all along. Hopefully they read this information and if someone in the future is asking the same question, they can provide them with the correct information instead of trying to tell them lies about this plan. A lot of people are angry that some of us still have this plan because it offers great benefits as opposed to those new "unlimited" data plans that it would be a violation of the terms of condition. Enjoy happy streaming and no buffering.

Keep in mind though that sometimes those verizon representatives provide false information as well.

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[rcschnoor]

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@Benitez147 wrote:

Thank you for providing the correct answer and what I have been telling these "experts" all along. Hopefully they read this information and if someone in the future is asking the same question, they can provide them with the correct information instead of trying to tell them lies about this plan. A lot of people are angry that some of us still have this plan because it offers great benefits as opposed to those new "unlimited" data plans that it would be a violation of the terms of condition. Enjoy happy streaming and no buffering.

Keep in mind though that sometimes those verizon representatives provide false information as well.

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I am happy you have a plan which works for you. Personally, I am not "angry" you still have the original unlimited data plan. I voluntarily gave mine up many years ago and switched to tiered data. Now I have one of the newer unlimited data plans and have NEVER had a problem with buffering and am ALSO paying over $100 less per month than I would have been paying had I kept the original unlimited data on all 4 of my lines. Everyone on my plan uses as much data as they would like and have never had a problem with buffering, including MANY hours of watching video every month.

There may be an occasional Verizon customer who is angry you still have the original unlimited data, but for many others the newer unlimited data plans are much less expensive than what they would have been paying with the original unlimited data plan, INCLUDING the one which gives you the most premium data. For those who use more than 75 GB/month they may have been better off with the original unlimited data, but I would guess most people use much less than that.

For me, I am much happier with my $200/month bill than the $300+/month I would be paying for 4 lines with the original unlimited data plan.

[Benitez147]

Rcshnoor said: "I am happy you have a plan which works for you. Personally, I am not "angry" you still have the original unlimited data plan. I voluntarily gave mine up many years ago and switched to tiered data. Now I have one of the newer unlimited data plans and have NEVER had a problem with buffering and am ALSO paying over $100 less per month than I would have been paying had I kept the original unlimited data on all 4 of my lines. Everyone on my plan uses as much data as they would like and have never had a problem with buffering, including MANY hours of watching video every month.

There may be an occasional Verizon customer who is angry you still have the original unlimited data, but for many others the newer unlimited data plans are much less expensive than what they would have been paying with the original unlimited data plan, INCLUDING the one which gives you the most premium data. For those who use more than 75 GB/month they may have been better off with the original unlimited data, but I would guess most people use much less than that.

For me, I am much happier with my $200/month bill than the $300+/month I would be paying for 4 lines with the original unlimited data plan."

Yes, I see people get angry in these threads with some of the responses of these people. They are angry that some of us have these plans and i'm not sure why. We have been with Verizon for a long time and that is why we are able to be on these plans. I agree, if you have 5 different people paying into the plan it can come out cheaper for everyone. I use my jetpack for when I travel, I use my laptop, phone, computer, tablets and fire stick and they all run smoothly. I know this plan is not going to be there forever, but I am going to enjoy while it lasts.

I think it was funny when former Verizon Wireless CFO Frank Shamu said "no one really uses data" when they introduced tiered data plans. Clearly he was lying through his teeth, as they were trying to capitalize on the overage fees.