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DONUT_1216
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Will Verizon EVER sell or support any BLACKBERRY products such as the KEYONE. If so, when ??

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DickLewis
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DONUT_1216 wrote:

Will Verizon EVER sell or support any BLACKBERRY products such as the KEYONE. If so, when ??

With all the confusion and some replies a bit off track, I'm replying to original post.

At this stage, it is not likely that VZW will decide to sell the KEYone.

Also we may not see the Motion either, TCL/BlackBerryMobile hasn't even released a CDMA version yet.

Motion GSM has all the correct bandwidths, but haven't read anyone using one on VZW.

In my reply number 3, I mentioned I purchased the GSM/CDMA unlocked version from Best Buy.,

Verizon SIM inserted, activated on VZW without a hitch.

Hopefully with two new models announced for 2018, we will see some BlackBerry love from Verizon.

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vzw_customer_support
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We understand wanting to be able to use any device with the best service possible. To confirm if your phone will activate with our network, we do provide an ESN eligibility check: https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/

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boringusername
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Dick Lewis wrote:

DONUT_1216 wrote:

Will Verizon EVER sell or support any BLACKBERRY products such as the KEYONE. If so, when ??

With all the confusion and some replies a bit off track, I'm replying to original post.

At this stage, it is not likely that VZW will decide to sell the KEYone.

Also we may not see the Motion either, TCL/BlackBerryMobile hasn't even released a CDMA version yet.

Motion GSM has all the correct bandwidths, but haven't read anyone using one on VZW.

In my reply number 3, I mentioned I purchased the GSM/CDMA unlocked version from Best Buy.,

Verizon SIM inserted, activated on VZW without a hitch.

Hopefully with two new models announced for 2018, we will see some BlackBerry love from Verizon.

No confusion merely pointing out that ANY phone to be able to be on Verizon's network it has to have  the proper LTE bands which include band 13 and support Verizon's VoLTE which mean it has to go through Verizon's certification process. If Blackberry doesn't not wish to do that, that is on BLACKBERRY not Verizon.

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DickLewis
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boringusername wrote:

Dick Lewis wrote:

DONUT_1216 wrote:

Will Verizon EVER sell or support any BLACKBERRY products such as the KEYONE. If so, when ??

With all the confusion and some replies a bit off track, I'm replying to original post.

At this stage, it is not likely that VZW will decide to sell the KEYone.

Also we may not see the Motion either, TCL/BlackBerryMobile hasn't even released a CDMA version yet.

Motion GSM has all the correct bandwidths, but haven't read anyone using one on VZW.

In my reply number 3, I mentioned I purchased the GSM/CDMA unlocked version from Best Buy.,

Verizon SIM inserted, activated on VZW without a hitch.

Hopefully with two new models announced for 2018, we will see some BlackBerry love from Verizon.

No confusion merely pointing out that ANY phone to be able to be on Verizon's network it has to have the proper LTE bands which include band 13 and support Verizon's VoLTE which mean it has to go through Verizon's certification process. If Blackberry doesn't not wish to do that, that is on BLACKBERRY not Verizon.

Very well aware that any phone to work on Verizon needs their certification.

Also aware what are and how the different bandwidths work.

BlackBerryMobile, not BlackBerry is the make in conjunction with TCL. Blackberry doesn't make phones anymore.

My reply was to the OP, I added what I thought was a simple reply that there would be no KEYone sold by Verizon. Plus hopefully Verizon will start selling and supporting these phones again.

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ROGERDEANT
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Upgraded from the Priv to the Keyone.  Love the phone.  2 day battery life.  Purchased unlocked version for Verizon at Best Buy.  Just swap the simm cards.  No issues.   Run GSM and lte/cdma.  In my area usually stay on CDMA cell service.  Great phone.  Waiting to upgrade my wife to the new Motion since she is not into keyboard.  Hard to beat at the price compared to the main name brands. 

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DickLewis
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Waiting for a CDMA Motion also. So far no go.

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boringusername
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Dick Lewis wrote:

Waiting for a CDMA Motion also. So far no go.

Why when Verizon is phasing out CDMA by Dec 31 2019 and won't allow CDMA only devices to be activated on it's network after June 30th 2018.

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DickLewis
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To show that our CDMA phones are not CDMA only, the Samsung Convoy IV basic flip phone my wife uses works on CDMA out of the box. If you remove the battery, there is a SIM slot there to use the phone on GSM.

So her basic phone is ready when VZW flips the switch.

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boringusername
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And that device will no longer function after Dec 31 2019 because it's not LTE. Verizon doesn't have a GSM network. And yes I'm away LTE is sub-set of GSM but it's not the same. Unless a device has LTE bands 2,4 an especially 13 and can do VoLTE then it won't work after Dec 31 2019

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DickLewis
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It's simple really when you remember that these BlackBerry phones that have CDMA are NOT CDMA only.

My KEYone is CDMA and unlocked GSM, therefore should Verizon flip a switch that CDMA no longer works,

likely a new SIM and phone would work because it is also GSM.

VZW first announced they would drop CDMA around 2014, so not holding my breath. So if I want a BlackBerry Motion, for now at least, we need CDMA.

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boringusername
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Dick Lewis wrote:

It's simple really when you remember that these BlackBerry phones that have CDMA are NOT CDMA only.

My KEYone is CDMA and unlocked GSM, therefore should Verizon flip a switch that CDMA no longer works,

likely a new SIM and phone would work because it is also GSM.

VZW first announced they would drop CDMA around 2014, so not holding my breath. So if I want a BlackBerry Motion, for now at least, we need CDMA.

Since you didn't read it last time

http://tomhamptonagency.com/wp-content/uploads/Verizon-3G-letter-1.pdf

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mama23dogs
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So the big question is... does this open up Verizon network to the vast number of GSM only phones out there.  (As long as they have compatible LTE bands) ?

Or is Verizon still an exclusive club....

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vzw_customer_support
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mama23dogs,


That is an excellent question when it comes to service with Verizon. I definitely understand the importance of having compatibility with other devices and flexibility to be able to use the device where and when you need it.


I am always keeping an eye out as well for the latest and greatest devices. While I can't necessarily speak to other carriers devices and if they are going to launch on our network, I can provide you with a great tool that will verify if the device can be activated on our network. With this link ( http://spr.ly/6589Dr1sW ), specifically under General Information, #3, you will be able to check if a device from another carrier can be activated on your Verizon account.

 

We are always here to assist and answer any question that you may have about your Verizon Wireless services. With the information that I have provided, does this help clear up the details?


RyanCo_VZW Follow us on Twitter @VZWSupport If my response answered your question please click the Correct Answer button under my response. This ensures others can benefit from our conversation. Thanks in advance for your help with this!!

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boringusername
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mama23dogs wrote:

So the big question is... does this open up Verizon network to the vast number of GSM only phones out there. (As long as they have compatible LTE bands) ?

Or is Verizon still an exclusive club....

You do realize Verizon sells phones without CDMA in them RIGHT NOW and have for months.

ASUS ZenFone V | Specs, Pricing, Reviews | Verizon Wireless

ZenFone V Live | Verizon Wireless

LG Exalt LTE | Verizon Wireless

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DickLewis
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None of those phones have any interest for me. I am BlackBerry fan.

As far as putting SIM in KEYone, I have been using it all along on VZW.

Not what this thread is about, it's about Verizon supporting BlackBerry, KEYone in this case.

For the record, I'm a long, long time customer of Verizon Wireless.

And I'm not complaining, just trying to get an update.

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boringusername
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Dick Lewis wrote:

None of those phones have any interest for me. I am BlackBerry fan.

My post wasn't meant for YOU look at whose post I was responding to( hint NOT you ). not everything is about YOU.

DickLewis
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boringusername wrote:

Dick Lewis wrote:

None of those phones have any interest for me. I am BlackBerry fan.

My post wasn't meant for YOU look at whose post I was responding to( hint NOT you ). not everything is about YOU.

It was just a response. To be honest, I didn't notice whom you quoted.

Blame it on very old age.

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DickLewis
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KEYone has the correct bands.

https://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_keyone-8508.php

Looks like I have problem with Convoy IV. Three of them on my account.

Think I would have gotten a notice from VZW.

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vzw_customer_support
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As a long time Blackberry fan myself, Dick, I definitely understand wanting to know if Verizon will sell or support Blackberry in the future. While we don't have any announcements at this time regarding selling Blackberry devices, many 4g devices are supported by Verizon. You indicated that you recently purchased and activated an unlocked Blackberry phone on our network. Many unlocked 4g devices will work on our network. You can always reach out to Verizon with the IMEI of the device to ensure that the phone you are interested in purchasing will work on our network. To activate a phone you can go to vzw.com/activate. Does this help clarify your concerns? -Ryan

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boringusername
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Dick Lewis wrote:

KEYone has the correct bands.

https://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_keyone-8508.php

Looks like I have problem with Convoy IV. Three of them on my account.

Think I would have gotten a notice from VZW.

Then what are you complaining abut if it has the correct bands? Put your Verizon SIM in it.

As far as the Convoys why would you get a notice NOW when you have util Dec 2019?

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