Verizon isn't going to support the Priv??? Why should any of us stay with Verizon?

johnmpls
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Verizon is going to miss the boat for anyone who actually does work rather than facebook checking on their mobile.  Really Verizon??

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jamesonnorth
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I posted in another thread before it was deleted.  BB has made it clear the Priv is coming to all four major US carriers.  3 versions of the Priv have already passed through the FCC, and the only carriers in the US large enough to have their own model are AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, and Verizon.  The AT&T/T-Mobile model is likely the same one, and Sprint/Verizon could also be the same one.  Not sure about the third, unless it's a no-camera model for one of the other two carriers.

We'll see, as the ship date has been leaked a lot as November 16. (Official BlackBerry Priv listings pop up with detailed specs and price, November 16 ship date | Crac...)

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Snn5
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It would be hard to convince a lot of people to buy into a $700 phone when the company (BB/RIM) is in question as far as longevity goes.  It's one phone and it's Android system is unproven as of yet.

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jamesonnorth
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BB is cash flow positive, and is moving into a long-term position as an enterprise software leader.  They have two of the largest EMM software suites (BES and Good), as well as BBM and a number of subsidiaries in IoT and other hot sectors like crisis communication (AdHoc) and encryption/mobility (Secusmart and WatchDox).

jamesonnorth
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I posted in another thread before it was deleted.  BB has made it clear the Priv is coming to all four major US carriers.  3 versions of the Priv have already passed through the FCC, and the only carriers in the US large enough to have their own model are AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, and Verizon.  The AT&T/T-Mobile model is likely the same one, and Sprint/Verizon could also be the same one.  Not sure about the third, unless it's a no-camera model for one of the other two carriers.

We'll see, as the ship date has been leaked a lot as November 16. (Official BlackBerry Priv listings pop up with detailed specs and price, November 16 ship date | Crac...)

Ann154
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The new BlackBerry phone doesn't support any of the US CDMA carriers like Verizon, Sprint and US Cellular.

http://store.shopblackberry.com/store/bbrryus/en_US/pd/productID.328095700/categoryID.70392700/paren...

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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jamesonnorth
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It's been discussed in other threads that the unlocked version has never been CDMA compatible. The CDMA version will be supplied to Verizon and Sprint independently of the GSM version.

I imagine it will be released closer to the official sale date of 11/16

Ann154
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From a business perspective, wouldn't one want to have all the versions of a device available for pre-order at the same time? Since none of the CDMA models have been submitted and approved by the FCC, the odds that the CDMA models might never be sold.

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DickLewis
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That's normal, Shop BlackBerry only sells GSM, have never sold CDMA compatible versions,

we have to get our phones from Verizon.

DickLewis
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CB is wrong, release date is November 6, not the 16th.

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dgary8
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I would buy the Priv the day it is released if Verizon would support it. Although, if Verizon would get a trimmed featured version like it did with the Sony Xperia Z3 (Xperia Z3v) then it would not be worth considering it.

Verizon needs to offer the same phones as the other major carriers.

Verizon, please get us the Blackberry Priv.

Rinick
Enthusiast - Level 1

the 3 black priv models that get FCC certificate are STV100-1 STV100-3 STV100-4

BlackBerry Priv gets FCC certification, official pre-order page still down

and it seems the verizon version is STV100-2 and sprint is STV100-5

http://forums.crackberry.com/news-rumors-f40/updated-model-numbers-names-828586/

however,  these 2 models are not confirmed yet and has a question mark behind it

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Majennin1
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So let's acknowledge that there are financial arrangements between carriers and handset companies that are complex and beyond anyone outside the industry. That said, this is not the days of the BB Torch where people would choose (in this case) AT&T to get the Torch -- the last BB slider. AT&T cut a deal with BB to be exclusive provider of the Torch handset to get customers. Iphones and maybe Samsung are the only ones with that market control these days.

Since those days, Verizon has offered a variety of BB handsets and as best I can tell, if the handset was CDMA they offered it. BB, conserving cash didn't offer Passport as a CDMA phone. BB put their money into the larger GWM market.

Look at the selection of smart phones Verizon sells - I doubt HTC and Kyocera or the latest Windows phone is likely to sell many more than the Priv - but Verizon offers them. You have to wonder if Verizon makes money on such relationships or whether HTC etal. have to pay a consignment fee or offset stocking costs.  

In short, if BB offers a CDMA Priv and is market-competitive on fees etc. with other small smart phone companies, Verizon will likely carry it - VZ gets value by appealing to a wide market -- they're in it for the two year guaranteed revenue contracts.

I am fortunate to be at the end of two-year contracts on my families phones and if the business deal doesn't work, then this will likely be a good reason to look at alternative carriers - Been with VZ for over 10 years and actually like them as a carrier, but their slooow progress to an open GSM standard just rubs me wrong.

I hope it works out, but let's face it, it's not like they hate BB or don't care about certain customers -- it's just busines -- show them the money and they'll sell it.

Camelhmpz
Newbie

We just have to wait and see over the next few weeks what Verizon/BB say about the Priv.  Rumor has it that its model STV100-2 , and they are always well after the clearing of the GSM variant.  Verizon received exclusive Z30, but decided to pass on the Pass Port (you can see from other websites evidence was shown their was a CDMA model in the works).

I'm getting tired of relying on Verizon for phones the last 16 years, and may give up the unlimited data and get a GSM carrier.

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Tidbits
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It is currently exclusive.  Carriers are not allowed to say if they care going to get it or not until the exclusivity is over. So you will not get an answer for at least 3 months or so.

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DickLewis
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The Priv is not and never was exclusive. Just some carriers are slower than others about selling the Priv, or announcing that they will carry it.  It is officially released, eventually VZW will have it. Patience.

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Tidbits
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There are so many articles out there saying it is exclusive to AT&TT, and how it was a bad idea for BB to do it. I am only going by what I read so if you have solid proof saying otherwise what I said stands. Generally exclusive deals lately have been 3-6 months.

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NorCalSheila
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I think this may be considered proof.

Do a search for Blackberry on the Verizon Wireless website and you will see "Priv by Blackberry.  The first-ever Blackberry powered by Android. Coming soon."

This is, of course, after Verizon Tweeted the same message yesterday.

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DickLewis
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Priv is not exclusive. The Passport was exclusive to AT&T. As far as I know, still is.

Post a link that states Priv is exclusive, likely one of the [removed] sites.

Not arguing, just disagreeing.

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CoreyGmaN
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I looked through the FCC Documents, and one of the 3 phones tested included CDMA, which means it should be coming to Verizon.

This is on the first exposure report

https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2784963

Blackberry Priv CDMA Verizon.JPG

DickLewis
Contributor - Level 3

Knew I had read the about the CDMA test somewhere, thanks CoreyGmaN for the update.

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Ann154
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CDMA is NOT the same as WCDMA. WCDMA is a GSM network technology and I believe it is also called UMTS. The BlackBerry wasn't tested for the Verizon Wireless networks.

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/us-wireless-carrier-bands-gsm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint...

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