mifi data theft, fraud by verizon class action lawsuit 2012
pzedoffatverizon
Enthusiast - Level 3

i think its high time, mifi and verizon data customers start compiling the necessary information (which i have already gathered for my own case) and start organizing a lawsuit against verizon for deceptive marketing , fraud(wire fraud), theft(interception) of data(e.g. the mysterious 3gb per month data overages experienced by numerous customers. anyone who has anything to add please feel free, lets use this opportunity to narrow down this issue and get some results.....time for verizon to open its wallet i personally am tired of being stolen from and im tired of paying $270.00 a month for a crap connection and crap reception with 7kbps transfer rate. 1 phone and one mifi device.

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tikibar1
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Brian68 wrote:

20 GB is NOTHING people. We use that every 3-4 days on our cable internet connection. Sometimes we've use more than that in ONE day.

that's a lot of streaming!

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Counselor2002
Enthusiast - Level 3

I have called, written,called and written again about the data problem. The reps are clueless. I have a tech ticket out there somewhere. No call back. This is the problem. Data is incorrect. In one evening my data was at 75%. I had just turned on my jet pack and had not used it all month. I have turned it off. I just filed a complaint with the FCC.

ltrinity
Enthusiast - Level 2

I too have been victimized by Verizon.  Paid my overage charges that they said were 115GB in a 5GB/month plan.  Cancelled all my Verizon services, phone, internet and two cell phones.  Have been a Verizon customer since NYNEX days 1987.  Shame on them going forward they will loose more than the $1800 I had to pay. 

ltrinity
Enthusiast - Level 2

Everyone should file a complaint on the FCC website fcc.us/billshocks

amcon
Enthusiast - Level 1

Hopefully some of you may have gotten your issues resolved. I figured I would post my story here as it may be help to aid in the final result/possible suit against Verizon Wireless. So lets begin...

I am currently using the MiFi Jetpack 4G LTE. I am a natural/gas oilfield worker that has to email, send reports, and sometimes entertain myself for hours. I am also an avid video game player, simply because some nights at work that is all there is to do.

Here is where the trouble begins. From day one I have been monitoring my usage on this thing like a hawk. My first bill, was normal, started out with 8gigs, ended up bumping to 20gb figuring this limit would be more than enough. To my surprise, about every 10-15 minutes I started to receive overage messages via text message/message on my data card. Not one, not two, but sometimes up to 8-9 within a span of 5 minutes. Fishy right?

Well lets start by saying, I pay for top tier FiOS at my house as well. Being a tech nerd, I watch my data usage there as well. I pay the max amount you can pay, for the highest amount of speed you can receive in FiOS. I have had this connection for over a year now, and in my years worth of use I have NEVER...EVER been able to download 7-8gbs worth of data in Five minutes.

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Pictured above is Verizons detailed data useage for my account. From 8:02 PM to 8:07 PM my MiFi card had somehow downloaded 7.6gbs. This is when I began to question verizon. So I began to call.

Here is where thing's got interesting. Upon calling and questioning this, I asked their tech support if it was possible for me to download a movie around (8gbs) on their top tier FiOS in under 10 minutes? The tech support rep, simply laughed and said no. So I continued to ask him how my 4g LTE MiFi was capable of such a thing. He responded it isn't. But it is displayed on my bill?

So I asked to be transfered to a supervisor. This is when things got extra hairy. My bill currently sits well over $1000 due to overages. I had asked this supervisor to take a look at my detailed billing from last month. With the information sitting in front of me I asked him how much data I had used last month. He responded, "7gbs". However, there was an unbilled charge for 18 extra GB's that would be added to this month (11/07/12) bill that had occured during that billing process. I asked him how this is possible and this was one of his answers.

"Your 4G LTE MiFi card will search for the nearest tower to give you the best reception. This tower maybe a Sprint, AT&T, RIM, T-Mobile etc...There data maybe received faster, or slower, and may use more data when connecting to these outside towers.  So the 18GB of unbilled charges, were because your MiFi card connected to a tower that was not Verizon and they had billed us late, so we would just add that to your next bill."

Ok Verizon so now, you are telling us you are hiding charges and randomly applying them to bills you deem fit? ALSO, if I am paying for Verizon service, despite the lack of Verizon towers I EXPECT to be paying Verizon. Still not convinced I had used 18GB's worth of data in a few days I continued to dig deeper.

I logged into my Verizon account and begin to check my jetpack bill. (pictured below)

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According to Verizon Currently I am over 8.301 GBs on my data package. No big deal. 8gb at $15 per gb, That is $120 + tax. The ball hasn't stopped rolling.  I did the math, with my Jetpack costing me 120-150 a month. Thats almost a $300 bill. No biggy, but currently my bill is displaying I owe over $1000. So I began to check out a detail break down of my billing with all my lines. Maybe someone else on my family plan did something and caused a major amount of overages.

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Well, well, well..What do we have here? So According to my individual breakdown on my MiFi card as pictured above I had only went over 8gbs. But on my bill I have to pay the unbilled 18gb from another random tower that doubled my usage, and now all of a sudden im paying for an extra 7gbs.

With all of this going on, I kept my cool, I wanted to get to the bottom of the data numbers. So I started last night to play World of Warcraft on my data card. Keep in mind, this is what I do every single day I am in the field. So I monitored my usage from 6:16 PM to 3:49 AM the next day. (pictured below)

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These are my numbers in GB features. From 6:16pm to 3:49am I played World of Warcraft straight, and managed to only use a little bit under a half of a gig. Knowing this is a normal occurence for me I began to question how in the heck I am having 30-40gb of overages a month.

So I began calling. BOY did this cause me to take a Xanax. I attested my issues, and spoke with 5 technical support advisors. I spoke with 5 customer service representatives, and 4 supervisors, and 2 billing department specialists. Not one of them could explain how in the world I only use roughly .50gb to .60gb a day, but I am managing to receive 30gbs worth of overages in 10 days.

I spent roughly 5 hours on the phone trying to have this explained to me and where this extra 30gbs were coming from and why I am paying for them. The only tech that was able to help was the one I had quoted above.

In which some of his final words were, "We just receive numbers, and we charge you for them."

I will put this in bold...

VERIZON ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. YOU ARE SCAMMING LOYAL CUSTOMERS FOR HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AND NONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, SUPERVISORS, OR SUPPORT GUYS  CAN EXPLAIN WHY US MIFI USERS ARE BEING CHARGED ASTRONOMICAL FEES FOR DATA OVERAGE WHEN THEY ARE QUESTIONED ABOUT WHERE THE OTHER RANDOM GBS OF DATA ARE COMING FROM. YOU SAY THIS IS A PRIVACY ISSUE, AND WE CANNOT INVADE YOUR PRIVACY AND MONITOR WHICH WEBSITES THE DATA IS COMING FROM AND SUCH. UNDERSTANDABLE.

However, you are charging some of us for data that wasn't even used or was used against our will. How could, who sits in the woods on a drilling rig, with 1 bar of service from my MiFi card manage to download 18gbs worth of data in a day, let alone a few hours.

This cannot be let to rest, this needs to hit the courts. Verizon, you need to be sued. It is plain and simple. You are simply frauds.

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Technically even at 3G speeds it's possible to download over 35 GB in a day. With 4G you can easily do 100 GB - 170 GB or more in a day. Not saying you do but it's is very possible to download 18 GB in a day over 4G.

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ltrinity
Enthusiast - Level 2

Anything is possible but I am a 70 year old senior and am not awake that many hours in the day 🙂

Seriously though my wife and I use the internet for email and occasionaly Google, something is wrong. Verizon customer service doesn't have a clue and I like amcon have spoken to many of them.  The store manager where I purchased the jet pack arranged a $350 credit and waved the $175 charges to stop my service.  Still I had to pay for 165GB overage for a month and a half of service.  I went back to CenturyLink and won't have to deal with Bill Shock anymore.  If these overages are a possibility it should be explained to the customer prior to purchase.

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prettyppam
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Have you had the same problem I've had in ALWAYS being diverted to financial svcs and having to get an act of congress to get to POSSIBLE support??  I've rarely personally been able to talk to ANY tech support. 

Is there actually a class action suit pending???  How do we get something like that started???

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prettyppam wrote:

Is there actually a class action suit pending???  How do we get something like that started???

First, talk to an attorney.....

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Bluehouse
Enthusiast - Level 2

I've call and call VZW so many times.  They sent me the new device and put in the new sim card.  The speed changed from 3G to 4G earlier November.  But we were having the "over the usage" issue since October.  They told me that maybe I download the movie or song.  Which I don't even do that because I know we only have 5GB date limit.  They said since I got the new device and the sim card, it doesn't looks like it's "their fault" to cause the data usage to go up so high.  For example, I was paying TWO online banking bill, within 5 minuts, I was done and happy about the speed of the 4G.  But guess what, later on, I saw the usage on that time fram, I used "0.33 GB".  Hello... I'm not the computer expert, but to use that much by just paying two online banking bill??  This is not going anywhere by calling them and I hate to pay them the money that I didn't even use those data.  Can we print out all these communications and send it to FCC or BBC? 

prettyppam
Enthusiast - Level 3

File an FCC complaint    www.FCC.gov/complaints, I think or just google FCC.  They allow you to upload files regarding the complaint.  You can copy/paste specific conversations and posts into your word processing document and then upload that single file.   I sent them all of my postings to that point in time.

Good Luck!!!

INterestingly, VZ has NEVER followed up on a SINGLE promise... now several out there just hanging.... 16 days and 700$$ into this mess, plus 130$ of erroneous designation of a monthly phone as a 'contract' phone so they could steal the upgrade to give my Mom a better access point, all without explaining the real cost to me.  She believes she got a great deal!! 

Bluehouse
Enthusiast - Level 2

Thanks.  I will do just that.  I hope everyone who has the same problems like us could see this and file the complaint with FCC.  Don't let the big company like VZW to "steal" the money from the customers.  People needs to stand up together.

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Bluehouse wrote:

Thanks.  I will do just that.  I hope everyone who has the same problems like us could see this and file the complaint with FCC.  Don't let the big company like VZW to "steal" the money from the customers.  People needs to stand up together.

YAWN

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RidgeRider
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commonsense101
Specialist - Level 2

"data confuses me. and my bill be high. fix it verizon"

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commonsense101 wrote:

"data confuses me. and my bill be high. fix it verizon"

"I only watch Netflix 6 hours a day. No way that uses more than 5 GB a month. Obviously Verizon is committing fraud! "

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ltrinity
Enthusiast - Level 2

Way to go amcon it is people like you who know what is going on that might get us some relief. 

Lilybramble
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Downloading full movies? What exactly do you mean by that? You mean STREAM movies like Netflix? If you're actually watching in HD that would use 2 GB and hour or 4 GB per movie which means more than 2 movies and you're over you 10 GB limit. Most place that have Hughesnet reviews most of the reviews are BAD. not a little bad VERY bad. And honestly if I was going to get satellite internet I would have go with WildBlue's Excede internet over Hughesnet.

As far as your claim Verizon is "fraudulently charging customers for data they have not used." That is pretty serious charge and frankly you could be sued for liable and you have have to prove your claims. Can you do that? Um nope.

Lilybramble
Enthusiast - Level 2

Wow. Anger issues?

Doesn't matter what other people say, my experience with HughesNet is extremely positive. If you don't want to use them, don't.

So sorry I didn't use the correct geek speak. I did "stream" movies. However, I also DOWNLOADED movies to my hard drive. Believe whatever you want, that's what happened. I couldn't care less what you think must have happened.

As for proving my claims, threats of liable, etc.: You have no idea whether I can prove my claims or not.

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commonsense101
Specialist - Level 2

i wish i could see you face when you realize what you just said.

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