Bionic

McFrost
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Has anyone heard when VW will have the newly announced Motorola Bionic available?

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Ann154
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All the phones and devices that were announced with the Bionic including that phone were to be released by the first half of 2011. So it could be next month or June or sometime in between.

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angela3763
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Please explain this to me. On the Motorola site it says the Bionic has 4G 'like' power and speeds.  WHAT?    'like' ? so is it 4G or 'like' 4G ?  look for yourself, says right on the Motorola website

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TedKord
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It's an LTE phone, with an LTE radio along with the CDMA/1X radio. It is a 4G phone.

 

They're probably hedging their bets, since in addition to having the most extensive network, Verizon also has the slowest network of the 4 major players. Their reported LTE speeds fall short of some of the others' 3.5G speeds - for instance T-mo is claiming max speeds of 42Mbps with their HSPA+ by the end of this year, while Verizon is claiming 5-12 Mbps with it's LTE network. T-mo is currently claiming max of around 20Mbps, still above VZW's speeds.

 

(Most likely, users experience on either will not reflect such high numbers - on Verizon's 3G now, I usually see download speeds of 50-60kbps max, often 10-30. And I'm in a VZW saturated area, generally with 3-5 bars. Those are old dialup speeds.)

 

There's a lot of confusion around 4G and what it is right now. There is an international body which defines 4G, but they've bowed to the pressure of the carriers and expanded the definition to include pretty much all current tech. Originally, none of the current tech (LTE, WiMAX, HSPA+) met the definition. The definition was based on minimum speeds (staionary and moving). I believe the minimum stationary speed to be 4G was 100Mbps, and no one could claim that.

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PJNC284
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TedKord wrote:

It's an LTE phone, with an LTE radio along with the CDMA/1X radio. It is a 4G phone.

 

They're probably hedging their bets, since in addition to having the most extensive network, Verizon also has the slowest network of the 4 major players. Their reported LTE speeds fall short of some of the others' 3.5G speeds - for instance T-mo is claiming max speeds of 42Mbps with their HSPA+ by the end of this year, while Verizon is claiming 5-12 Mbps with it's LTE network. T-mo is currently claiming max of around 20Mbps, still above VZW's speeds.

 

(Most likely, users experience on either will not reflect such high numbers - on Verizon's 3G now, I usually see download speeds of 50-60kbps max, often 10-30. And I'm in a VZW saturated area, generally with 3-5 bars. Those are old dialup speeds.)

 

There's a lot of confusion around 4G and what it is right now. There is an international body which defines 4G, but they've bowed to the pressure of the carriers and expanded the definition to include pretty much all current tech. Originally, none of the current tech (LTE, WiMAX, HSPA+) met the definition. The definition was based on minimum speeds (staionary and moving). I believe the minimum stationary speed to be 4G was 100Mbps, and no one could claim that.


Verizon's current LTE speeds are ahead of Tmobile's HSPA+ and Sprint's Wimax real world speeds.   Those 5-12Mbps estimates Verizon is giving is under full load, not some theoretical **bleep** that no one will ever see. 

 

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