DROID X2 = Piece of junk. Do not get it.

[droidsw]

Yellowcanary, it's the M.O. around this forum. A lot of the "answers" are "do a reset", or "it's probably an app". If anyone suggests that this isn't the best phone ever, they are verbally attacked and insulted.

And the person you addressed, plays the being-bullied card with some people if THEY question HIM and takes his ball and goes home (threatens to quit the forum).

It's comical. (Type away in colored font).

O.P., the phone (X and X2) has it's share of BUGS and GLITCHES, but it is not a piece of junk. If you can weed through the insults, Wildman and Cody offer excellent suggestions.

[gerio]

Yeah, I figured if I kept poking the stick in the beehive, you'd come buzzing around before too long. Where IS that can of Raid?

You and YellowCanary share the same reality-perception problem. And that taking the ball home thing...something about a black pot and kettle is coming to mind...

I'll bet you wont even admit to reading my posts about my X2 issues. No matter.

I still don't know what torqued you off so bad, you even mentioned a time or two enjoying the red-letter responses.

Anyway, same book, chapter 4. And I can smell chapter 5 coming any minute now...

Geri O

[droidsw]

Touche'. But, I tried to quit out of disgust. The strange thing is G, I did get a kick out of your rants.

Here goes Chapter 5. The prevailing theme here is if there is ANYTHING going astray with your Droid X, you (the OP) are a stubborn, ignorant, nonconformist if you take the "advice" (word used very loosely) offered and that doesn't resolve the issue(s) with your phone.

How about once, "That's a known issue with GB. Moto's aware". Instead of, "I haven't had ANY issues with GB". "If you've performed a reset, you must have done it wrong", etc.

It's a broken record.

Yes, a million times yes, MANY people don't have issues. But, how many even know about this forum and how many use their phone for little more than calls and texts? That argument is non-sense.

When someone posts here with a problem, they are at the virtual Complaints Department. They are not happy campers. They insult Moto, Verizon and would probably kick your dog if they could.

Telling them it's their fault helps no one.

What is it? Is it threatening to admit this phone isn't perfect? Is it threatening to admit MAYBE you (whoever replies) doesn't know the answer?

Wildman and Cody are never condescending. They are unique.

And, your red letter replies were funny before GB turned my phone into a buggy, glitchy phone. Lost my sense of humor after that.

[gerio]

(Well, why not?)

Yes.

Geri O

(EDIT: Aw, now, this looks silly with the post I replied to being removed. Come on, guys....)

[gerio]

Not what you are expecting......

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droidsw wrote:
Touche'. But, I tried to quit out of disgust. The strange thing is G, I did get a kick out of your rants. And you wanna know how many of those I did that made me think "geez, who wrote that?". More than you think...

Here goes Chapter 5. The prevailing theme here is if there is ANYTHING going astray with your Droid X, you (the OP) are a stubborn, ignorant, nonconformist if you take the "advice" (word used very loosely) offered and that doesn't resolve the issue(s) with your phone. That is not how I approach those OPs, at least not at first. What you are missing is making a suggestion (and yes, the hated, dreaded, reviled, spat upon Factory Restore or Clear Cache, and the "Check for misbehaving apps") and being 

How about once, "That's a known issue with GB. Moto's aware". Instead of, "I haven't had ANY issues with GB".This is used merely to state that a working, (mostly) trouble-free phone is possible and does exist, let's see if we can turn your phone into one of those. "If you've performed a reset, you must have done it wrong", etc. And how many times has Wildman suggested that a mere factory restore isn't enough, that one should make sure that all of the data from a previous installation doesn't get restored? There is a right and wrong way. And I would hope that you could acknowlege how many posters with problems come here with the intentions of using the place and the participants as punching bags, even to the point of appearing un-interested whatsoever in ideas to solve the problem, just to rant and rave and bear all arms on anyone that would make a suggestion. 

It's a broken record. Ehh, more like my iPod stuck on "repeat". But it's the starting place. Even with Wildman and Cody.

Yes, a million times yes, MANY people don't have issues. But, how many even know about this forum and how many use their phone for little more than calls and texts? That argument is non-sense. I wish I was following this train of thought, but I'm not. Again, my girlfriend (DX & GB, nothing more than phone calls, lately venturing onto Facebook) and my 20-year-old daughter (typical young girl, nearly blowing up the phone with texts and data) simply not having issues. I didn't even reset my GF's phone. Is that irrelavent? Is there nothing to be gained by this fact (other than no, it's of no use to go past just mentioning it and shoving it down someone's throat, I'm happy to acknowlege)

When someone posts here with a problem, they are at the virtual Complaints Department. They are not happy campers.And who can blame them? Not me, in spite of what you say you've seen from me.  They insult Moto, Verizon and would probably kick your dog if they could. Coming after my dog over your (referring to whatever poster, of course) is when I typically hit the red and bold fonts and get busy, LOL. But even I don't see many of these types of posts a lot anymore. And, of course, and probably to some's satisfaction, the summer touring season hit and I can't participate as much as I did during the winter. 

Telling them it's their fault helps no one. I've never come right out and said that, I've seen other people that did and I didn't approve. I've had fun with the more outrageous posts. 

What is it? Is it threatening to admit this phone isn't perfect? Of course not, referencing my recent posts about the DX2. Is it threatening to admit MAYBE you (whoever replies) doesn't know the answer?Nope, and I typically don't respond when I don't know an answer, preferring to not add to the clutter on the forum

Wildman and Cody are never condescending. They are unique. Gentlemen, indeed. Even if they are offering the answer one doesn't want to hear (oh, well).

And, your red letter replies were funny before GB turned my phone into a buggy, glitchy phone. Lost my sense of humor after that. And I hate that happened and that you haven't been able to find resolutions to the issues (or have you? I certainly hope so). But at the time things blew up, I was feeling kinda like your punching bag. That was a particularly contentious weekend, for some reason. Not anyone's best work, in my humble opinion. 

Regardless of where this goes, I have always and still hope you find solutions to the issues. I have always wanted to take a problem-laden phone and set it side-by-side with one of mine and see just what the heck the differences might be. Has anyone been able to do this. It would bew an awesome excercise. I just don't know if I'm smart enough to detect whether or not any differences in the phones would be obvious.

As always, for better or worse, good luck and take care, 

Geri O

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[droidsw]

Good points.

I was referring to the numerous times folks say, or insinuate, "Thousands of people don't have issues. You must be doing something wrong".

How about this topic?

Telling OP's it's an app-related issue. Do we all need to admit that Apple got it right?
That apps MUST be tested by the phone OEM and service provider first?

Of course, that will never happen, but apps wreak havoc on these phones and Google HAS to do something.

My phone is useable, just buggy and glitchy. Doing things it didn't do before GB. Here is where you (and wildman) make your best point.

In my best Dana Carvey, ala Bush Sr., "Not gonna do it".

Not gonna install a camera, keyboard, or browser app from the market because GB screwed up the stock versions.

Not gonna spend hours un-installing apps to find which one is causing conflicts.

Spent WAY too much time doing that the past year. Burned out. Tired. Disgusted.

I accept and acknowledge the warts of this phone until it either quits entirely, or my update comes up and I can get it cut off......like a wart.

[gerio]

Here's hoping VZW gets that Compound W out quickly...

I think that Woodman and I had similar experiences with iPhones. Mine would, on occasion, lock up, needing a restart. And they would get laggy at times, then zip right along. I had 3 (never had an iPhone 4) and all of them exhibited similar behavior. But I gotta say, when it works (yes, it does most of the time), it's a smooth experience.

HA! This X2 rebooted itself out of the blue 30 minutes ago. Sign of things to come (long sigh)...?

[Ann154]

@DincX110. Huh? I think I need a translation to proper gentleman English and a serious spell check engine to make sense of that post.

EDIT: On second thought, maybe I don't want to know.

[droidsw]

No phone is perfect, but would those of you with iphone experience please comment on the following:

What is the update experience like with an iphone? Do updates in iOS cause as many, or more problems than they fix?

And, does Apple promise updates only to later miss the previously announced date, OR, perform soak tests that reveal issues, but STILL release the update, anyway?

Are iphones negatively affected by apps the way android phones are?

Do iphones have to be factory reset as often and is that the primary troubleshooting method for iphones?

Do you have to pull the battery to take a photo, or make a phone call? No? You can't pull the battery. Interesting.

Do you have to have a charging cable in your vehicle, at your desk, in the garage, in the patio, because the battery drains so quickly?

Was your 3G connection, the most basic need of the device, a hit-and-miss situation?

Did you regret purchasing your iphone one year after purchasing it?

Just curious.

[gerio]

If you are genuinely seeking answers to these questions, your best bet will be the Apple iPhone forum on their website.

If this is more stumping against Verizon and/or Motorola because of your bad experience (and which several people, including myself, have expressed dismay and are hoping for better luck for your next phone experience, regardless of where you find it), then I'm not interested enough yo participate. Even with 3 years of iPhone experience.

This horse has been flogged enough. It's not gonna run any faster or further.

Respectfully,
Geri O