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Droid... Very disappointing news

Neverknow
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‎10-29-2009 06:17 PM

Ultimate buzz kill.

 

Ultimate Fail.

 

SOOoooo Disappointed!!!

 

http://androidandme.com/2009/10/news/google-fails-to-address-app-storage-issue-with-droid-and-androi...

 

Any thoughts,

 

Neverknow

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jon_yaya
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‎10-29-2009 07:03 PM

I was concerned over this as well.  However, after looking through the online android market and looking through the programs i will likey use I am content. Most of the programs are under 2mb. So it seems that the 250 mb limit would be plenty. If someone needed more they should probably get a netbook. www.androlib.com (cant seem to get this to link properly so i suppose cut and paste) BTW i also read that the emulators (NES,SNES and Genesis will store/run the roms of SD card)

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Gasmeister
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In response to jon_yaya
‎10-29-2009 07:09 PM

"The emperor has no clothes" is what comes to mind.  All this fuss for an expensive toy.  My guess is that this will appeal to the suburaban teenagers dragging their moms into a Verizon store for a cool new phone.

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Neverknow
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‎10-29-2009 07:38 PM

It's just disappointing to here all the hype over the "iPhone killer" only to find out that is't just NOT.

 

Who cares how many aps a certain OS has if you can't dowload and utilize them all. You can't max out the iPhone due to all the available space!!

 

I'm just tired of all the marketing hype only to be left with a ultimate fail. It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

Neverknow

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Samsungfan123
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‎10-29-2009 08:11 PM
Neverknow wrote:

It's just disappointing to here all the hype over the "iPhone killer" only to find out that is't just NOT.

 

Who cares how many aps a certain OS has if you can't dowload and utilize them all. You can't max out the iPhone due to all the available space!!

 

I'm just tired of all the marketing hype only to be left with a ultimate fail. It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

Neverknow

Don't care about the Iphone but the M$ Marketplace has this same exact problem.

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reallyniceguy
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In response to Samsungfan123
‎10-29-2009 09:56 PM
Im sure this is the first of many more android phones to come.
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Axis
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In response to reallyniceguy
‎10-29-2009 10:13 PM

Disappointing???   For Who???

 

A few phone gamers????  250mb is not all that shabby for phone applications....  It will only Run  / Multi task (6) apps at the same time anyways....  Hmmmm that's (6) Times.Say 4mb per application (being generous here) .. 24mb....  Leaves a ton of room to have other applications installed and on standby.................

 

Its NOT an Note/Net Book, It's a Phone....

 

 

 

 

I can only please one person each day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.

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supitsmike
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‎11-18-2009 08:50 PM
Axis wrote:

Disappointing???   For Who???

 

A few phone gamers????  250mb is not all that shabby for phone applications....  It will only Run  / Multi task (6) apps at the same time anyways....  Hmmmm that's (6) Times.Say 4mb per application (being generous here) .. 24mb....  Leaves a ton of room to have other applications installed and on standby.................

 

Its NOT an Note/Net Book, It's a Phone....

 

 

 

 

I can only please one person each day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.

 

This. While I agree that the onboard memory needs to be upgraded, I'm not too sure that I could fill up my phone with enough apps to take that internal space.

 

What sucks is that because the internal memory is limiting, it restricts developers from creating large apps/games. What's good about it is that you know its very difficult to take up that space.

 

 

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fezzik
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In response to supitsmike
‎11-19-2009 02:54 PM

Well also the phone only has 256 mb of ram so a huge game using a lot of system resources could also be taking up a lot of running memory.  Some programs will use more Ram than the size of their program becuase of accessing media and things like that also that 256mb or ram has to run the os and graphics as well.  So 256mb of free rom space isn't nearly as concerning to me as the 256mb of ram though it seems to be enough for some background processes and 6 programs usually. 

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ether813
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‎11-19-2009 04:34 PM

256 mb limit, sure its a small drawback, but "very disappointing", I don't think so. Not a huge deal. Every phone has something that we dont like (Iphone doesnt do multiple apps, Blackberry doesnt load apps to memory card, WinMo - always needing to use the task manager to end stuff, etc)

 

It is still an excellent device.

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supitsmike
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‎11-19-2009 09:26 PM
ether813 wrote:

256 mb limit, sure its a small drawback, but "very disappointing", I don't think so. Not a huge deal. Every phone has something that we dont like (Iphone doesnt do multiple apps, Blackberry doesnt load apps to memory card, WinMo - always needing to use the task manager to end stuff, etc)

 

It is still an excellent device.

 

Agreed. Every phone has it's knacks, even the best of them. There is no such thing as the perfect phone and there is no reason to bash on any of them for not meeting over-achieving standards. :smileyhappy:

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eli_lilly
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In response to Samsungfan123
‎10-30-2009 02:57 PM

 

Samsungfan123 wrote:
Don't care about the Iphone but the M$ Marketplace has this same exact problem.

 

 

 

 But xda-dev already has a cab that fixes it.

 

-E

 

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techspert
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In response to Neverknow
‎10-30-2009 02:28 PM
Neverknow wrote:

It's just disappointing to here all the hype over the "iPhone killer" only to find out that is't just NOT.

 

Who cares how many aps a certain OS has if you can't dowload and utilize them all. You can't max out the iPhone due to all the available space!!

 

I'm just tired of all the marketing hype only to be left with a ultimate fail. It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

Neverknow

 

You can't max out the iphone on apps, but you easily can on other things.  I love taking my movies and re-encoding them to mpeg4 files (~500MB-700MB each).  That fills up an iphone FAST along with apps and music.  Now, do I need 500 apps on my phone?  Not really.  So while the memory for apps is limited, it's not a deal breaker for me.  I do think they need to consider improving on this in the future by upping onboard memory on these phones for app storage.  I just don't see any OS provider opening up to offloading apps if they want to protect their developer community from piracy.

 

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fezzik
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‎10-30-2009 02:41 PM

I don't really understand why Piracy of apps is an issue since it is an Open source OS that requires Open source programs (gnu public license) to run it.  The source codes should be available for compiling from source anyway.  Which is why I think some of the big dogs have kept out of this fight so far.  I really want the Droid but the price point may keep me out for now.  I will probably end up with the Eris which won't disappoint me too much except I really wanted a physical keypad.  I don't think I will fill up the available memory either but it will hurt sales for people who are looking for the awesome cool phone who likes things like games and what not.  You know kids the ones this is marketed to. 

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fezzik
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‎10-29-2009 10:08 PM

I am sure eventually Google will have to loosen that.  I am sure Verizon is just the arena to get pressure to do that. 

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lonnie
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‎10-29-2009 11:17 PM

Anyone still waiting for droid?

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patrick_bateman
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‎10-30-2009 01:40 PM

I am still waiting for the Droid!

 

There are ways to move apps to an SD card, just look around google.  It will require a modicum of tech saviness, but for those that don't want to be compared to  suburban moms and daughters, I'm sure it will be a feat worth attempting. 

 

I will admit that I am disappointed that storing and running apps from the SD card isn't going to be available out of the box, but the whole reason I want this phone is for the ultra customization that it offers.  One of which it is very easy to hack, and there is a huge online community willing to help.

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paxchris
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In response to lonnie
‎10-30-2009 02:50 PM

 

lonnie wrote:

Anyone still waiting for droid?

 

I'm still waiting for it :smileyhappy:

 

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DJA984
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‎10-30-2009 03:26 PM

Perhaps they are waiting for an "App Syncing" solution?  iPhone doesn't let you download anything over 10 megs on the 3g network...  Only lets you either get it thru iTunes, then sync, or over wifi.  Makes sense...   But I do know you can partition the device to see most of the card as ROM memory as well in a hack?   I do hope they open this up, because if they want to compete - the average person isn't going to want to re-partition the storage.  And most importantly - NO VZ **bleep**.  NO VCAST, NO VZ NAVIGATOR. KEEP OUT.  They ruined the razr already - remember how slow that thing was with VZ os?  Then when you do the seam edit to get Motorola's BETTER os and UI how much more responsive, snappy, and intuitive it was? 

 

Speak up about this and spread the word so hopefully google and motorola respond.

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techspert
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‎10-30-2009 07:03 PM
DJA984 wrote:

Perhaps they are waiting for an "App Syncing" solution?  iPhone doesn't let you download anything over 10 megs on the 3g network...  Only lets you either get it thru iTunes, then sync, or over wifi.  Makes sense...   But I do know you can partition the device to see most of the card as ROM memory as well in a hack?   I do hope they open this up, because if they want to compete - the average person isn't going to want to re-partition the storage.  And most importantly - NO VZ **bleep**.  NO VCAST, NO VZ NAVIGATOR. KEEP OUT.  They ruined the razr already - remember how slow that thing was with VZ os?  Then when you do the seam edit to get Motorola's BETTER os and UI how much more responsive, snappy, and intuitive it was? 

 

Speak up about this and spread the word so hopefully google and motorola respond.

Remember?  Every stinking day I remember because that's my current phone.  :smileymad:

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nickc50310
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‎10-30-2009 03:46 PM

If you read through the comments, this isnt as big of a deal as it was initially made out to be. 

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