Gingerbread 2.3.6 impressions
DC5_K20Z1
Contributor - Level 3

To all who have EP4D, OTA or from SD Card, how would you rate this update compared to the EE4 Froyo update? Has it fixed most issues that you may have possibly had? Anyone experience muted calls, "dead air" issues? Loud squealing or moden noises from the phone? Stock browser load faster, smoother perhaps? Bluetooth bugs fixed? GPS lock pretty quick? Any screen redraws? From what I hear this build is buttery smooth....just wanted to get everyones opinions about it.

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HoustonHeart
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I will tell you one thing, I am glad I got an Acer tablet. THey are on top of the ball with updates over any manufacturer. Latest Honeycomb build, updates on a regular bases to fine twak, and will have ICS 4.0 in January.

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jbrookley
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I wrote this in another post but it sounds like it still would apply here:

 

I actually had battery life issue when I first got the update as well (and I had an extended battery).  I used to get about 2 days out of the phone and after the update, I barely made it through 1.  I tried juice defender, uninstalling all apps that I didn't "need" (which is relative, I guess).  Anyway, I wrote what solved my problem in this post:

 

http://community.vzw.com/t5/DROID-Charge-by-Samsung/Droid-Charge-Gingerbread-2-3-update-schedule/td-...

 

But here's what helped fix it for me (it was a browser issue, from what I found):

 

"The default browser seemed to be an issue for my phone lagging a lot (and force closing), as well as draining the battery.  Even if you close it, it must be staying on in the background or something to that effect.  I ended up downloading the mini opera browser and changing the internet shortcut to that instead of the default browser and my phone seems to have sped up and my battery life is doing much better!   i've been using my phone as average amount and I'm still sitting at 87% (with the extended battery) where I was sitting at around 60% or so (since the update).

 

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JerryF
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For you folks having battery problems take a peek at what I did to my own Charge phone regarding re-setting the Battery Statistics.

 

My first post in this thread describes how I did it.

 

http://community.vzw.com/t5/DROID-Charge-by-Samsung/How-I-reset-my-Battery-Statistics-without-ROOTIN...

 

JerryF

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DC5_K20Z1
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So after a few weeks of regular use now, both my phone and my wifes phone run amazing. Since the gb update to our charges things run smooth, neither of us have had one force close, not one random reboot, no static in calls, no "dead air", hardly any lag or re draw issues, the battery life seems to be a bit better, no cycling for either of our phones between 1x, 3g, 4g. Things have been really solid!! This is how this phone should have shipped when it was released!
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DC5_K20Z1
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Glad to hear the battery has improved!
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DC5_K20Z1
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Has anyone else tried doing this after the gb update....turn everything off or to low, push notifications set for longer intervals, and then charge full, and try this stop for a few days, see if it extends battery life, then go back to your old setup that was fine before the update? See if the battery still drains as fast?
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xsvenom
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I don't know what to do, I notice a great battery drain now on my Charge after this update. I have my Charge constantly plugged in now. If I just pick it up and play a little Angry Birds on my way into work ( 10 minute trip on train ) the battery is at half charge. Are you kidding me? I don't know why Verizon or Samsung don't bite the bullet on this one and refund or store credit all Charge owners moneys. This phone is a pig, it should have came with a solar panel on the back..

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DC5_K20Z1
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I notice more battery drain when keeping the gps on at all times even if I'm not using it. Also, bump charging doesnt dry the battery, it is intended to squeeze a lil extra juice into your battery. I do it 3-4 times a week, about 3 times each time I bump charge. I turn off wifi all day, gps off all day unless I need to use either, but if wifi is on, 3g is off. I have auto brightness off completely, lowest setting, browser brightness as well, and no animations, close out all my apps each time I use them, and so on. I'm not sure how the battery is affected if it is at 60% when you did the update, but I wanted to make sure it was at 100% so that when I did the update, if the battery stats got reset it would read the battery as accurately as possible.
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WTTTT
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I don't have an extended battery.  I have the original one.  And I understand all the tricks to extend battery life may help a little bit.  What is annoying to me is that I have everything exactly the same as before the update and am getting 1/2  the battery life.  That is a big difference.  I am not trying to tweak to get a bit more, I am trying to figure out why it seems like the update killed my battery life. 

 

Having said that the reason I installed Juice Defender is that it does certain things like turns off 3G when I get within range of my WiFi networks and a bunch of other things that read like they should help.  I am not sure JD is helping much, but it is not hurting.  I noticed the battery life decrease for two days before installing JD and nothing much has changed since then.  I did tweak JD settings a bit this morning and I seem to be getting a bit better results this afternoon.  Phone has been on for just over 8 hours and is at 64% with very little use.  Pretty much just drained down to that level sitting on the desk.  I just woke it to check and I have received and read 3 emails, two texts, and made one 10 minute call using bluetooth today.  I know that before the update, I would be at much higher than 64% with that use. 

 

Before the update I used to have my phone on all the time from 6am to 10 pm average.  I used it without worrying about battery.  Used internet, many texts and emails, phone calls, etc.  Once in a while I would even forget to charge it or would accidently leave it on overnight.  I would always have enough the next day to get started until I could plug it in.  Now there is no way that with normal use the battery would last the day.

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DC5_K20Z1
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I know that even though things are the same for your setup and your loosing more battery, try doing all that stuff, turning auto brightness off, turn off gps, turn off wifi, turn off all animations, dim the browser brightness, change the push notifications to longer intervals if you can, same with synching accounts, and try charing it fully, and run the phone that way for a few days. Then try going back to your setup and see if the battery drains the same, or less. It is weird that your phone is draining faster now with the same set up, but it wouldn't hurt to try doing that and then after a few days of running it that way, go back and to the current set up and see if it drains as fast again or not.

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WTTTT
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DC5_K20Z1 wrote:

I know that even though things are the same for your setup and your loosing more battery, try doing all that stuff, turning auto brightness off, turn off gps, turn off wifi, turn off all animations, dim the browser brightness, change the push notifications to longer intervals if you can, same with synching accounts, and try charing it fully, and run the phone that way for a few days. Then try going back to your setup and see if the battery drains the same, or less. It is weird that your phone is draining faster now with the same set up, but it wouldn't hurt to try doing that and then after a few days of running it that way, go back and to the current set up and see if it drains as fast again or not.


I got busy and did not do anything with this issue for several days.  I noticed the last couple of days a BIG improvement in battery.  This is weird as I did not touch a single setting since last Wednesday.  Last night the phone had 64% left when I turned it off after 14+ hours.  I had made about one hour of phone calls, 20 or so texts, received several emails, and installed and played around with a calendar app.  My Missed Message app did also alert for a while when I was out of hearing range of my phone.  I did not use the browser.  Not a ton of usage, but fairly comparable to earlier when after a day of similar use would be drained down to 15 or 20%. 

 

I don't know why this could be happening, but I hope it continues.  I did look at what has been using the battery and one thing is different.  Before, "Android System" and "Android OS" were big users, always near or at the top of the list.  Now they are both way down on the list of battery use.

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louise3000
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That's really strange.  I suddenly had a terrible drop in battery life (approx 70% less) with all the same apps etc. and draining the battery didn't seem to do much good.

Android Processes not run 40% to 60% - they never used to.  I've brought it back to factory settings twice and watched or and eliminated suspicious apps.  No difference.

I can see that the phone has no battery life if it's devoting half its energy to keeping the basic OS running - but I can't figure out what constitutes the OS that is running and taking so much battery.

Suggestions appreciated.

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WTTTT
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louise3000 wrote:

That's really strange.  I suddenly had a terrible drop in battery life (approx 70% less) with all the same apps etc. and draining the battery didn't seem to do much good.

Android Processes not run 40% to 60% - they never used to.  I've brought it back to factory settings twice and watched or and eliminated suspicious apps.  No difference.

I can see that the phone has no battery life if it's devoting half its energy to keeping the basic OS running - but I can't figure out what constitutes the OS that is running and taking so much battery.

Suggestions appreciated.


Louise - I had the same problem with two Android processes at the top of the list.  After several days, the battery life improved, although not to pre-GB levels.  The Androd processes are now consistenly way down on the usage list.  So something was obviously up with those to drain the battery.  Now that they have settled down battery is a quite a bit better.  I am not a very heavy user, but I get through the day easily now where as for several days after the update, it was not even close.

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JerryF
Specialist - Level 1

Louise3000,

 

If you have not yet tried this, do try it.  BTW, this will not delete any of your "stuff" in the phone BUT do backup your contacts because if something "crazy or weird" happens they are to difficult and time consuming to rebuild from scratch.

 

Before you do the following put your phone on the charger OVERNIGHT so the battery says it is at 100% in the morning.  When you see the blue icon saying 100% (upper left corner of the display screen) unplug the charger for 2-3 seconds and immediately re plug it in.  Then in about 5-8 minutes the phone should show that it is fully charged (look for blue icon in upper left corner of the display). Then un plug the phone from the charger and do the following.

 

NOTE:  if you choose NOT to do the battery charging as described above I suggest that you do not waste your time doing the following.

 

Un-plug your phone from the charger.

 

Turn your phone completely OFF by holding the power button.

 

Remove the battery, the SD card, and the SIM card.

 

Wait 2-3 minutes.

 

Reinstall the SIM card, the SD card, and then the battery.

 

Restart your phone.  You will see the red Droid start up screen.

 

Try it to see if this helped.  If it does not help, I'm sorry...but we tried.

 

PLEASE LET US ALL KNOW IF IT DID HELP.

 

JerryF

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remraz
Newbie

Count me among those whose battery tanked with 2.3.6.  Local Verizon store had no idea, sent me a new (well, certified like new) phone, same problem.  All the battery use is going into the Android OS, and the phone is constantly warm.

 

It seems odd there aren't more people complaining - there must be something the impacts only some people.  Hope we figure it out soon.

 

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JerryF
Specialist - Level 1

ramraz,

 

Did you try what I said?

 

JerryF

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remraz
Newbie

The experiment is running now but not looking good.

  • Android OS is still at the top of the battery usage chart
  • The phone is still running warm
  • Battery level is at 89% after only 1 hour 45 minutes on battery - for an EXTENDED battery

The battery usage chart is different in that the big graph at the top doesn't show any blue at all, so I'm guessing this process did force a reset of the stats file.

 

Also, when I booted following your suggestions, it booted into Safe mode.  I decided to leave it in safe mode figuring that might consume less than regular.

 

Here's my questions:

  • I understand why calibration issues could lead to an inaccurate battery meter, but why would it actually drive CPU usage and battery consumption?
  • I have both a regular and an extended battery - do I need to go thru this process every time I switch?  Or does the OS notice a different battery and automatiacally reset?

Thanks for the help

 

 

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billav
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  • Battery level is at 89% after only 1 hour 45 minutes on battery - for an EXTENDED battery

 



When my Charge was running Froyo, nothing I did helped the battery.  Within an hour of booting up (my commute time) my phone was usually down to 85%.  I tried everything - including switching to 3G exclusively and turning off background data.  When I got Gingerbread, the battery life didn't get any better.  The other day, I switched on airplane mode as I entered the subway.  When I got off, the battery had only gone down 2%.  I was amazed.  So I started fiddling around with the settings.  Eventually I switched back to 3G, and battery life became outstanding - even with background data going.  I figure that the Gingerbread update did something to correct this, since switching to 3G never helped battery life under Froyo for me.  Today, I unplugged with 3G going and started my commute.  An hour later, my battery was still at 100% (I switched to airplane mode for 30 minutes).

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remraz
Newbie

Today I switched back to my original, regular-sized battery.  And for reasons I cannot explain, I got excellent battery life.  Phone not hot.  Android OS back down to the bottom of the list most of the day.  15 hours on battery and it still reports 66%.  Keep in mind I didn't do much with the phone all day (or other days) than check it's battery status.  No special battery bumping or charging done.

 

This evening at a resturant, the phone got a little warmer and Androd OS was up to 30% from 11%.

 

I read others say things magically got better, but in this case there's the switch of batteries from extended to regular.  I'll have to keep doing experiments but hoping my regular battery can keep this up.

 

 

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JerryF
Specialist - Level 1

Remraz,

 

Funny about safe mode, I don't see why, but re boot and get it out of safe mode.   Then just keep using it because some folks have found that the battery thing just goes away.

 

BUMP charge it 3 or 4 times in a row one morning.

 

On mine the OS was using as much battery as the display for the first 24 hours and then it settled down without me doing anything although I "think" I did bump charge it 2 or 3 times in a row the next morning.

 

What I am tying to do is get the battery stats up to date because the only sure way is to do this is to use the APP "Battery Calc" but it only works on a rooted phone and I do not want to do that.

 

89% is not to bad let's wait and see. 

 

I do not know why the OS is using so much battery.  Go to your APP Task Manager and touch it.  Touch RAM at top of display.  Then touch Clear Memory.  This will not hurt anything but it may stop the OS from using so much battery power.

 

You do not ned to go through this process every time you change batteries.

 

JerryF

 

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