want 2.2 upgrade for moto Droid now or going w/ new I Phone bye bye

[x8sharrock3x · Accepted solution]

bye bye

[gainesville]

x8sharrock3x said " bye bye " .....

And based on my recent experiences with VZW (non)customer service that is exactly the response you can expect from VZW! They just dont give a rats {word filter avoidance}
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[medic2joey]

Verizon actually treats people better than most places. Its like your job. You quit cause so and so treats you bad, or a bad boss, or just plain {word filter avoidance}
. Things are the same in a consumer market. Same crap, Different people. I have actually had the best customer care with Verizon than Sprint, ATT, And Tmobile put together! Thing is a lot, Not all, But a lot of Verizon CS actually are smart and read through people {word filter avoidance}
better than others. Like today while I was at a Verizon store to buy a accessory, A guy came in yelling his car charger was not working right and wanted to return it, yet it did not have the Verizon symbol but he swore to the lady it was Verizon who mailed it to him. Come on, We not dumb here! But anyways Im rambling, Moral of story, Grass is not always greener on the other side!! You get what you pay for!

[gerio]

I promise, no word filter avoidance issues here....

I have friends all over the country and in those spots where AT&T is having the most trouble with iPhone (actually, ALL of their phones) connectivity issues. In spite of all their hype and talk about increased capacity and improved connectivity, those friends (that haven't left for Verizon or Heaven forbid, Sprint) are reporting more connectivity issues than ever. They can hardly make a call, get a call, or keep a call that finally connected from dropping.

So run along and get that new iPhone. I, for one, have learned the fine art of being patient and waiting for the next Android update, although I'll admit that it seems as through Verizon's approach to updates does have a "glacial" quality to it.

But hey, at least I can make and receive phone calls. And that is worth something, I tell ya...

Geri O

[gainesville]

Ahhhhhhh, gerio, how is the Android operating system working out for you on that Samsung Ominia?

Exactly, even though the original post references jumping ship to another carrier, the title of this forum is Android Devices and his (or her) post's intent was to point out that a. There is a 2.2 upgrade on the way and b. That if VZW drags their heels on the upgrade he (or she) will not be a happy camper.

Slow day in the Samsung forums?

[gerio]

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gainesville wrote:

Ahhhhhhh, gerio, how is the Android operating system working out for you on that Samsung Ominia?

Exactly, even though the original post references jumping ship to another carrier, the title of this forum is Android Devices and his (or her) post's intent was to point out that a. There is a 2.2 upgrade on the way and b. That if VZW drags their heels on the upgrade he (or she) will not be a happy camper.

Slow day in the Samsung forums?

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Ahh, Gainsville, Grasshoppa, you are cute, but not in ways you might think...

It is YOU who isn't keeping up with things. I chunked the Samsung because of the obvious ad nauseum reasons that are not news. I bought a Moto Droid this week. So what?

And even if I had an old Newton (bet you don't remember what that was), what's it to you if I comment one way or the other? Who do I have to be to make the point, Mother Theresa? The Pope?? The point is the same. His "intent" was yet another slam at Verizon because they don't suit his idea of what their timetable should be.

Now go dream about that new iPhone. And do it quietly. Mom's upstairs taking a nap.

Geri O

[gainesville]

@gerio Since development of the Newton OS platform start somewhere around 1987 and ended in '97 and was incorporated into many different devices I can't be sure which one you are referring to. A Newton device manufactured by Sharp, Motorola, or Apple? Give me a little more information (i.e  MessagePad or eMate300) and I may be able to  tell you if I "remember" .

[#8]

If I don't get the 5.4 upgrade before September, I'm getting an IPad.  **bleep** you Verizon.

[gainesville]

Actually Jim, I heard that v5.4 will include an IPad emulator! 

[sranger]

Look,

I would love to have the 2.2 update myself.  It has a few features that I want.  However, it is going to take a few months to work throught he system.  No amount of whining on this board is going to change that....

The steps are a follows:

1) Google releases the new OS version ( Completed )

2) Motorola has to test the new OS with all of it's hardware ( Probably 1-2 months )

3) Motorola sends it to Verizon.

4) Verizon test it for ( 1-2 ) months on it's wireless network and sends the information they gather back to motorola.  In this case they will probably request that they remove the Wifi Tethering.

5) Moto makes what ever changes are necessary and sends it back to Verizon.

6) Verizon test is some more and probably sends a few key over the air updates to employees for a little more testing ( probably 1-2 weeks )

7) If no major flaws pop up, Verizon starts the over the air updates. ( Flaws DID appear in the 2.1 update at this point causing a couple of weeks of delays )

7A ) Now usually somewhere around steps 6 or 7.  The Update.zip is made avaliable on the web and you can manually put it on your phone ( I did this with 2,1 at the step 7 phase )

Like it or not that is what has to happen to get the update.  2-3 months after the google release is about the best you can hope fore.  Any other speculation is simply going to cause more people to get irritated.  The constant mis-information from the click revenu gerating blogs does not help the situation much.....

[jon23781]

In a carriers perspective can someone please tell me the benefit of rolling out a new version of an OS to your phone?

There is none unless it fixes a bug.

A phones life is generally about 1 1/2 to 2 years. Not because of the quality but because the technology and how hungry consumers are. Point made by this entries creator.... Android 2.1 just came to the Droid and since Google breathed 2.2 he/she is crapping his/her pants already in anticipation. Also think about how long contracts are... think there is a reason.... just a thought.

My bets are that he is threatening to go to iPhone primarily because OS 4.0 is rolling out in July and it is something new. New means better. And better is coming sooner. Once 2.2 rolls out on the Droid check the AT&T forums for this guy.

So back to my point. Verizon just came out with the Incredible, it also has some other rumored Android phones in the future. Why would Motorola and Verizon try to put out 2.2 on a device they aren't even focused on anymore. They want you to spend money.

Motorola doesn't want you to keep a Droid forever. And Verizon doesn't want your contract to run out.

So lets be honest, yes it will get 2.2. Yes it may even be sooner than later, but for people [to get upset] over each OS announcement is ludicrous.

Some of you people expect too much. Of course it takes a couple steps to get the 2.2 ready for each phone, and I promise they aren't in a big hurry.

{please keep your posts courteous}

[AZSALUKI]

i'm not familiar with any of this stuff that you all are talking about. the only thing i know about the updates is that from goin through this forum, the eris appears to have recently got the 2.1 update??? and it appears to have MESSED UP A LOT of phones??? yeah...i'd like an update as much as the next guy (although, all i know about it is that it can turn your phone into a hot spot, which i still don't believe verizon will allow?)......but not if i'm going to lose my contacts, mess up my speed dial, lose pics, tones and other date, have screen freezes, and whatever other problems that great 2.1 update caused on the eris. i like my phone now. if it could do some cool new stuff with an update, then great....but not at the expense of messin it up. most of the apps that i have been interested in, but passed on have comments that start with "was great until the update....." or "since the update i CAN'T...."

[supitsmike]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, @gainsville CHILL out. GeriO is cool peeps, we ❤️ and welcome him here on the Android forums, despite his vacation from the Android platform.

Which begs the question, what's wrong with having another phone and posting here? I have the iPhone because of my current situation (Android didn't have the app/functions then as it did now), and I'm probably the top contributer here on the Android section.

Your point?

Regardless, OP, if you want to give away that MotoDroid, I'm your guy.

[gerio]

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supitsmike wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, @gainsville CHILL out. GeriO is cool peeps, we ❤️ and welcome him here on the Android forums, despite his vacation from the Android platform.

Which begs the question, what's wrong with having another phone and posting here? I have the iPhone because of my current situation (Android didn't have the app/functions then as it did now), and I'm probably the top contributer here on the Android section.

Your point?

Regardless, OP, if you want to give away that MotoDroid, I'm your guy.

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Yeah, Gainsville would probably blow a gasket if he knew that I still post occasionally at my former carrier's forum (AT&T), although not lately.

Gainsville is cool, I don't why I was the target that day, but that's fine. I guess he agrees with the OP more than I.

The Newton I'm speaking of was an Apple product at the time, carried by Bellsouth Mobility, which turned into CIngular, which morphed into our  AT&T of today. I tried a demo Newton for a while at the time, but it was HUGE and with Star Tacs hitting the door, I couldn't justify the shoulder pain  (I was sooo happy that the brick phones went away, although you couldn't kill a brick phone if you tried).

Geri "gee, I'm old" O

[MrHost]

Recommended reading and watching.  Small read and view that is:

http://www.androidcentral.com/why-it-takes-carriers-need-time-upgrade-their-android-versions-io2010

[somegirl]

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jimfitzgerald wrote:

If I don't get the 5.4 upgrade before September, I'm getting an IPad.  **bleep** you Verizon.

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+1, and I'd give more if I could. Made my day.

Seriously though, chill. If you're not technically savvy enough (or don't want it badly enough to void your warranty) to root your phone, then wait for the people at Motorola/Verizon to iron out the kinks for you. Getting an update sooner does NO good if it breaks your phone.

Non-broken Update later > Broken update now

[basspro]

Verizon is again rated #1 in customer service, and I can say that I have never had a problem with them. If someone doesn't want to wait for the update to come out, or at least a rootable version, then the iPhone may be for them. Then Steve Jobs can tell them what they can and cannot have, and have dropped calls like crazy. And yes, I was with AT&T before Verizon, so I know about dropped calls.

[jon23781]

Android is open source, if you are so concerned then download the code, back up your phones data, root your phone, and install the new Android 2.2 Froyo.

Then learn some coding if you don't know already and troubleshoot your devices new found bugs since you didn't have patience for someone else to do it that actually knows what they're doing. Another option is to wait for someone else to root 2.2 on your device and use their 2.2 ROM.

http://www.blogsdna.com/8946/how-to-root-your-motorola-droid-running-2-1.htm 

(this is instructions to root to 2.1, I didn't provide this link to have you do it, I just wanted you to see the steps to get it done. Sorry couldn't find the 2.2 Root files & instructions for Droid.... guess you will have to... well... be patient)

Note that you will most likley lose tech support for doing such a thing but hey that is why you created your back-up.

[shipwrestler125]

have fun with your apple. Maybe if you cry a little  more VZW might actually think that you, one person out of there however many million of customers will break them if you leave ha.

[onewithshadows]

I personally can't wait for Froyo. However, I am in not huge rush. The largest improvements I am looking at getting is the browser (but its pretty fast now anyway) and of course full flash, instead of flash lite. Honestly, I don't see too much that is making me [excited] in anticipation. Its going to take time. I can't see why anyone would jump ship over a phone update...ok, I am sure the Eris people were getting **bleep** that it took so long...but still. It will come, and by time it does I will be ready for another new phone a short period after that I am sure. By then, new phones will be shipping with 2.2...or perhaps even 2.3.

[Please keep it clean - Thanks]