If you want as much bloat gone you have to go Nexus. Also don't buy anything with bloat on them. Make sure your friends do the same. Hurting sales will change the practice.
Actually, from what I understand, with the ICS updated, you will be able to disable or delete bloatware. Check out this link:
the answer is YES, but Verizon doesn't want you to do that so they won't allow us to talk about it here, you will have to visit some other Android specific websites with forums in order to find out exactly how.....should be easy to find