Cannot get my XP computer to make a wired connection to the Internet in one room of house
nfinance2
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I have called Verizon twice on this and they told me that my Network card is bad but I took my computer in and it is not my computer.  Our house is all Cat5 wired with the modem located in the Cat 5 box in the closet.  In one of our kids bedrooms, we are trying to connect a computer operating on XP and it will not connect to the Internet.  It is not the cable or jack because there is already another older computer hooked up in this room to same jack and it works fine whenever I switch it back over.  I have taken the XP computer and sucessfully hooked it up in another room and it connects just fine to the Internet.  I have spent hours on the phone with Verizon going through all the set up stuff, local area connection, Obtain IP address and DNS server automatically are both checked, we have reset the IPCONFIG, tried to ping with no success.  This is driving me crazy because the computer does work fine in another room.  Any help as to what could be causing the computer to not work in this room would be greatly appreciated. 

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crw856
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At first, I was going to say maybe the wiring in the house but now I don't think that is it. If possible, try updating the XP computer to the current software available from Microsoft. That might be the problem, but that's kind of a hard call. If you can move it to the room where you are having strong connection, you might want to try that.

Hope this helps. 

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nfinance2
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Ok, I did exactly that.  Updated EVERYTHING possible and even took the same cable to that room to make sure there wasn't some conflict with the cable and still won't connect.  I keep getting "local area connection 2, can't connect, cable unplugged" and it just keeps trying.

I do not know much about this technical stuff but are there settings to the individual ports on the router?  Could there possibly be something set up for the port that room plugs into that is messing with this XP computer even thought the other computer works fine in there?

I am about to call Verizon for the third time.  They did not know that I was able to hook up that computer in another room so I guess I will see what they say now.

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crw856
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Yes, that might be a good idea is to call them again and tell them your new developments. You may have to reconfigure the internet connection on the computer (if you haven't already) by deleting any old settings off there. This includes:

  • IP address
  • DNS servers
  • Router address
    • and who knows what else

Good luck. 

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nfinance2
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Verizon won't help me.  They claim it is the wiring now even though I have now hooked up 3 other computers to that room without one problem but everytime we go back to this one computer, it is the only one that won't connect.

I want to scream

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nfinance2
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You know, I even connected another router in that room and connected the computer directly to that router.  I communicate with the router but still no Internet connection however, when I plug my laptop into that router, I connect just fine.  Obviously not a wiring problem.
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Mrdy
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When you plug the cable from the wall to your computer--do you see any light on the ethernet port on the back of your pc?

Make sure you use a known working Cat5 cable to hook up the computer. 

What kind of router are you using?

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nfinance2
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I have a Westell 9100EM router.  There is a light on back of PC in the port and I am using the same cable that works with this PC in another room of the house.  The PC is about 2 1/2 years old.
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crw856
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I would suggest contacting the computer's manufacturer.
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nfinance2
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Ok, going to try calling Sony now.
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nfinance2
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Well that was a waste of $50.  They told me to contact my ISP.

This just doesn't make any sense.

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Mrdy
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ok, since the ethernet link light is on, it means that your connected to the router.  is there another led blinking beside it ?.  check the PC's Device Manager and make sure the Ethernet card is Enabled.

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nfinance2
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There is one greed light blinking and the card is enabled in device manager.  Would a system restore help at all?  There is nothing on this PC we need to keep. 
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Mrdy
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can you cut and paste your ipconfig/all status
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nfinance2
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Windows IP configuration

Host Name:  kristine

primary DNS Suffix: 

Node Type:  Mixed

IP Routing Enabled:  NO

WINS Proxy Enabled:  NO

Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State:  Media disconnected

Description:  Intel (R) PRO/!)) VE Network Connection

Physical Address:  00-13-20-63-B4-F5

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nfinance2
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That was supposed to be:  Intel (R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
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Mrdy
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That's very odd, the PC ethernet port link light is on, that means it is connected to the router.  However, ipconfig shows that the media is disconnected.  The only thing I can think of is the cable you're using is flaky.  It might have a poor contact on the RJ45 connector itself.
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nfinance2
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I got this answer in another forum pointing to a cable issue as well.  However, I am thinking it might have something to do with the jack and not the cable.  My question is, why would the other computer connect without any problems?  Do different NIC cards need different jacks or something?  Anyway, this answer leaves me with limited understanding as I am not sure what to do next.

Hard to tell for sure without using a cable testing but the most likely possibilities:

1)TX and RX pair are reversed turning it into a crossover cable. The stuff that works either expects that connection (switch to switch) or supports AutoMDX. AutoMDX automatically detects the far end and configures itself appropriately.

2) Cable is only wired with two of the four pairs and failing machine has Gig NIC. Gig requires all four pairs. Some Gig implementations do not like it when only two pairs are connected.

3) Cable is miswired creating a split-pair. End-to-end continuity is correct but proper pairing is not maintained. In some cases this will work at 10 Mbps but not faster.

4) Some combination of the above. Or poorly terminated cable, too much untwist. Ty-wraps compressing the cable - distorting geometry. Tight turns that distort geometry.

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Mrdy
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The card seems to be a 10/100 ethernet card.  one thing you can easily try is to force the card to 10 megabit through the device manager.  I just tried it on my own PC.  If I change my media type in Device manager and set it for full duplex either at 10 or 100 mbit, I lose my connection.  But if I set it to 1 or 100 half duplex, it works fine.  My PC is wired to a 10/100 hub (never realized it's only half duplex) because I don't have enough ports on the router.

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nfinance2
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I wouldn't even know how to change that?  I don't even understand the lingo.  Verizon actually called ME today to see if my problem was fixed, ran me through some more checks and they conclude that my network card needs to be replaced and put in a different slot.  We are going to try that today to see if that takes care of the problem.  We did hook up my laptop to that same jack and it connected fine so something is up with the PC in question even though it works in a different room in the house.
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NewDSL
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I feel bad for anyone having computer and/or internet connection problems.

But since other computers you have work fine on internet from this room; isn't it obvious that the only problem can be with this specific computer?

That being the case, I am surprised that Verizon would give you the time of day in trying to help you.

It doesn't seem to be anything wrong with Verizon at all.  And I say this knowing that all companies 

first tell you that the problem is with another company in the chain.  But in this case, it really seems to be true. 

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