EyeTV recording open thread

[AppleTV1]

I don't know how many of you use EyeTV software to record live TV but if you do, I could use your help.

I just started my Fios TV service and that caused me to loose the ability to use my EyeTV Hybrid to record shows on my Mac. Why not switch to a Verizon DVR? Well, because all my movies and TV shows are in iTunes and stream to my TV via an Apple TV. I'd like to keep it that way.

If you have found a good way to use an Elgato EyeTV Hybrid or HD, would you kindly share how you set it up?

I have a simple question to start: could I rent a Basic Digital Adaptor from Verizon and connect that to the EyeTV Hybrid? I know it would limit me to standard def recordings but I can live with that.

Thanks!

[Hubrisnxs]

Why CableCard isn’t on the Mac

 

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Over the last year there’s one question that keeps floating up in e-mail I get from readers and on our forums: Why can’t Mac users in the U.S. record digital programming from some source other than over-the-air ATSC broadcasts? (Sure, you can attach your Mac to a cable or satellite box via something such as Elgato’s line ofEyeTV products. But that’s an analog capture of a formerly digital signal.)

Take this note I received last week from reader Robert M:

Hi Jason, I’m interested in recording TV on my Mac, but I don’t want to use over-the-air programming. I want a way to use an EyeTV with a cablecard somehow. How do I do this?

CableLabs' CableCard is a congressionally-mandated standard that lets companies other than your local cable outlet create devices that work with digital cable, including scrambled premium and high-definition content. (Yes, satellite subscribers, you’re completely out of luck—the satellite companies escaped the wrath of this particular law.) CableCard is, basically, a digital cable decoder in a small card. Your cable company is mandated by law to offer them. And when you plug one into a TiVo HD or a Home Theater PC, those devices suddenly have access to all the same digital content as your cable box would.

So imagine a world where you could buy an add-on device for a Mac that would let you use the EyeTV software to turn your Mac into a complete high-def DVR via cable, rather than over-the-air digital. Sounds like a cool idea… but there’s a catch.

I asked Elgato Product Marketing Manager Lars Felber to explain what the deal is — Elgato's products will record over-the-air digital signals, analog signals from cable and cable boxes, and unencrypted over-cable signals that use the ClearQAM method, but don't support CableCard—and here’s what he told me.

ATI currently makes the only CableCard ready tuner for computers. However, it cannot be sold standalone, it must be sold with a new Vista PC as a CableLabs-certified solution. One requirement for such a certified tuner/PC package is that the PC’s video-out preserves the encryption and the digital rights of the content (it needs to support HDCP).

Currently, Macs don’t come with HDMI and DisplayPort content protection is not available to third parties.

So in other words, it's a bunch of bad stuff combined together. There are the copy-protection issues around CableCard, mandated by content owners who are terrified of piracy. There's Apple’s lack of interest (at least, so far) in creating a CableCard-ready Mac. There are access issues with the new DisplayPort connection. The result is a situation where Mac users are basically out of luck when it comes to CableCards. It looks like if you want to buy a computer that can use a CableCard, it’s going to have to be a Vista PC. At least for now.

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[Hubrisnxs]

So with that info in mind, you can't use your EyeTV without using a Digital Adpater or HD set top box to plug it into. 

So yes you could rent one of Verizon's Digital adapters and plug it into your eyetv, and it should work, or you can consider a windows machine with a Ceton InfiniTV card (pretty inexpensive) or purchasing a DVR like TiVO or Silicon Dust Homerun Prime HD and then putting a Cable card into it. 

Veirzon Leases Cable Cards for 3.99 and they support multiple tuners and HD   

[AppleTV1]

Thank you for your help, much appreciated. I will try the digital adapter with eyetv and also upgrade my set top to a basic dvr. That should cover all the angles .

I'll post updates.