Motorolla QIP7100P2 - New HD STB - Black (No Front Clock & Substantually Smaller) Feedback
vzlpcicalvo
Enthusiast - Level 2

Anyone have any feedback on the new QIP7100P2's?

Regards,

Isaac

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Hubrisnxs
Legend

faster response times, people say its "slightly" better pic quality.     I haven't noticed that difference myself, but is definetely faster - i don't mind that there's no clock, and I like that it's smaller - makes for more room in my cabinet, plus the black matches more of my equipment.

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V_C_
Enthusiast - Level 1

This is great news, looking to put TV in Kitchen.  Can someone give me the dimensions? I appreciate the help

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V_C_
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Found it 12.61 x 2.6 x 8.7.  Here's link (See Resources Spotlight) on upper right

http://www.motorola.com/Video-Solutions/US-EN/Products-and-Services/Video-Consumer-Premise-Equipment...

ronnyclicks
Newbie

only the dvr boxes have clocks. the non dvrs do not. rumor is a new non dvr box with clock will be out in summer

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NNard
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Definitely quicker, picture quality is sharper (due to extra RAM) and is six pounds lighter.Smiley Happy

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DMZ
Newbie

Just got the new 7100P2 HD setop box.  I like the smaller size and weight, but I'm dismayed there's no clock display like the new DVR.  Undoubtedly, this has to be the ONLY cable box in captivity without one, DUH.   It seems Verizon is looking to cut costs again just like they did with the original 6416 DVR which has no RF Out, something I need.  Someone here said there's a newer version of this HD box coming out WITH the display.  If so, WHERE IS IT?  Verizon tech support tells me there's no such thing in the works yet are getting complaints about this daily.  For those who don't want the clock display, they could just give the option to turn it on or off in the Settings

 Man Mad

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CRobGauth
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Actually I have seen Comcast boxes even smalled and they have no clock.

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DMZ
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Comcast uses the same Motorola boxes as Verizon.  I probably should have worded my previous post as 'Motorola is looking to cut costs" at the expense of the consumer's convenience.  My 6416 DVR is more than likely the ONLY cable box in captivity that lacks an RF Out.

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Justin46
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@DMZ wrote:

Comcast uses the same Motorola boxes as Verizon.  I probably should have worded my previous post as 'Motorola is looking to cut costs" at the expense of the consumer's convenience.  My 6416 DVR is more than likely the ONLY cable box in captivity that lacks an RF Out.


Keeping mind that the 6416 is an obsolete box and was the first DVR that Verizon delivered for FiOS TV almost 6 years ago now, I think any discussion about a coax output on the 6416 is really pointless.

I suspect the reasons Verizon chose to omit that option were that they expected people who got the 6416 DVR to 1) use an HD TV with it and thus use HDMI or component connections, or 2) use the S Video output to an SD TV (I believe nearly every TV built in the last 10 years at least has an S Video input). So there was really no perceived value in paying anything extra for a coax output (my guess is they did not expect people to want to connect SD TVs to the DVR from many feet away, which I believe is really the only reason for using a coax connection).

Of course the above is just my opinion....

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Justin
FiOS TV, Internet, and phone user
QIP7232, QIP7100-P2, IMG 1.9A
Keller, TX 76248

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Randman1
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Just installed 26" LED on kitchen wall , hid QIP 7100P2 in basement using Hot Link Pro w 25' extn cable and 15' HDMI. THe STB has a plug in jack for IR extender and Verizon sent for free after i called it is but not long enough and my distance (15')  was an issue. THE Hotel link has an amplifier/signal booster that plugs into electrical  outlet next to the STB. The only problem using the Hot Link w the QIP 7100 P2 is that you need to know where the IR eye is on the front of the STB. Spent over 2 hours on calls and chats with Verizon and no one could tell me where  where it is and there are no indicators. You must use a flash light and you will see the red nickel sized circle almost dead center in the middle of the front of the box. I covered it with the HL's sticky nodes and it works like a charm- no fade instant response - amazing and even better is the HL's TV IR eye which can be mounted out of sight behind the edges or speaker grills of theTV and it picks up like as if it wre in the open.

Hope this saves some folks time and frustration and that the Verizon folks in the Chat and Call Centers put this don in their on line guides for loacting the IR eye on the QIP 7100 P2 .  

sixasn15
Newbie

in the text at the right of the on-screen menu, a setup menu (or equivalent) for stb led display and secondary ac power connection is mentioned and said to be accessibe via MENU>SETUP>SET TOP BOX....however, that sequence leads only to a screensaver and keyboard options...led display setup is not to be seen...so i think, contrary to its own words,  the box has a led display which is not used..period.

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dodoyou
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sounds good,but there are still some questions.

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DMZ
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But they forgot to realize that people still had and still have VCR's, not to mention non-surround sound stereo systems. And in my case, an older HD TV that has a DVI input instead of an H.DMI which requires a DVI to HDMI converter cable AND a separate RCA cable connection for audio.

Discussions with Motorola engineers revealed that the RF Out exists on the motherboard. They just never installed the jack.

And if that's what Verizon thought
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Justin46
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@DMZ wrote:
But they forgot to realize that people still had and still have VCR's, not to mention non-surround sound stereo systems. And in my case, an older HD TV that has a DVI input instead of an H.DMI which requires a DVI to HDMI converter cable AND a separate RCA cable connection for audio.

Discussions with Motorola engineers revealed that the RF Out exists on the motherboard. They just never installed the jack.

And if that's what Verizon thought

DMZ,

I really, really don't understand why you are beating this to death. The 6416 DVR was first delivered to FiOS TV customers in Sept. 2005! (and I am sure quite some time before that for their internal testers) That is when I got mine. Why keep after this? Nothing can change the fact that the 6416 does not have a coax output. OK, I get it that you think that was a mistake. But so what? It is a done deal, you can't change it, Verizon can't change it. Was it a mistake? In your view, I guess yes. In my view? Well, when I first got he 6416, I still had an SD TV, a Toshiba I had had for probably 6 or 7 years. And guess what? It had (has, I still have the TV on a different STB now) a component input, a composite input, and an S-Video input, all of which outputs were available on the 6416. And yes, I had a VCR, and guess what? It had S-Video input also. I had both the SD TV and the VCR attached to the 6416.

And yes, the 6416 did have the option to order the box with coax output. I had the Motorola Users Guide for the 6416 and most certainly it showed a coax output, with the statement in parentheses that this connection was an option.

And so what that your TV had a DVI input? There are HDMI to DVI cables available, and audio cables, have been all along.

OK, I have said my piece. I see you have on more post here on this  topic, I may respond separately to that, but beyond that, l am done, this is really pretty pointless. It is a done, done, done deal for 6 years, why keep beating on it?

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Justin
FiOS TV, Internet, and phone user
QIP7232, QIP7100-P2, IMG 1.9A
Keller, TX 76248

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DMZ
Newbie

Justin, I'm not the one here beating this to death.  I merely mentioned it in the original post in this thread and you've let it propel you into orbit and keep you up at night.  All I've done was respond to your posts with FACTUAL information And BTW, I got FiOS TV 4 years ago while they were STILL giving out this model DVR box, not 6.

Have a nice day .....................


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Justin46
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@DMZ wrote:

Justin, I'm not the one here beating this to death.  I merely mentioned it in the original post in this thread and you've let it propel you into orbit and keep you up at night.  All I've done was respond to your posts with FACTUAL information And BTW, I got FiOS TV 4 years ago while they were STILL giving out this model DVR box, not 6.

Have a nice day .....................



And a nice day to you Smiley Very Happy .......but I assure you it is not keeping me up at night, I replaced my 5 1/2 year old 6416 with a 7232 earlier this year in prep for IMG 1.9A and am a happy camper, 1.9A works very well on my 7232, it would not have on the old 6416 based on what I have read (no HD guide, slow, no external hard drive, etc).....

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Justin
FiOS TV, Internet, and phone user
QIP7232, QIP7100-P2, IMG 1.9A
Keller, TX 76248

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DMZ
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FiOS tech support tells me they'll be upgrading my 6416 DVR (and 7100 P1 & P2) boxes to 1.9 'at some point' wherein I'll be able to plug in an external eSata drive.  But I'll believe it when I see it.  And as I said, I'd gladly upgrade to the new DVR if they could transfer over my existing recornings.  I wonder what the problem is with that.

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Justin46
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@DMZ wrote:

FiOS tech support tells me they'll be upgrading my 6416 DVR (and 7100 P1 & P2) boxes to 1.9 'at some point' wherein I'll be able to plug in an external eSata drive.  But I'll believe it when I see it.  And as I said, I'd gladly upgrade to the new DVR if they could transfer over my existing recornings.  I wonder what the problem is with that.


Well, be careful with what they say. The 6416 does NOT have an eSATA port, so you cannot connect an external hard drive to it. And as you said, you cannot transfer existing recordings. I gather it is something to do with the RIAA (I think that is the correct name, it is the recording people), encryption requirements and restrictions on distribution, etc, that are the cause for not being able to copy or move.

One of the current concerns I have about using an external drive is that if the DVR the drive is attached to fails, or you replace the DVR with another for any reason, ALL of the recordings on the external drive are lost. And keep in mind that with an external drive attached, all recordings are done to the external drive until there is no space available, then the DVR will switch back to the internal drive. Verizon development is fully aware of this issue and I got the sense a couple of weeks ago when I had the opportunity to meet with some of them that they plan to address it. When? Who knows.... 

I had some recordings on my old 6416, I really wanted to keep them, but with no way to do so I just said to heck with it with the hope that maybe I could find the same programs broadcast again. So far no luck, but I keep looking.....

I never had 1.9A on my 6416 so I have no personal experience, but from what I have read those who have had it are disappointed. So you might want to consider getting a 7232 and maybe even keeping the 6416 for a while - yeah, I know, more money, I guess it depends on how much the old recordings are worth to you.....

Since you are in "New Yawk" I am guessing it may be a little while before you get 1.9A. Verizon does not publish a schedule so all is pretty much guesswork. But I am very impressed with 1.9A, I have seen some bugs reported but so far I really don't remember seeing any myself. And the ability for my wife to schedule and delete her own recordings from her STB (hopefully some time in the future she will actually delete some Smiley Happy ) has definitely made my life easier.

Anyway, good luck.

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Justin
FiOS TV, Internet, and phone user
QIP7232, QIP7100-P2, IMG 1.9A
Keller, TX 76248

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DMZ
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....then why does EVERY other digital cable box before and since come equipped with RF OUT?
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Justin46
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@DMZ wrote:
....then why does EVERY other digital cable box before and since come equipped with RF OUT?

I don't know, why do they? And do they really all have coax out? I have no clue, and I don't care, it makes no difference when talking about the 6416 from Verizon.

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Justin
FiOS TV, Internet, and phone user
QIP7232, QIP7100-P2, IMG 1.9A
Keller, TX 76248

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