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fios and samsung+ hdmi doesn't work
bswin03
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‎02-23-2009 06:28 PM
i am furious right now after getting off the phone w/ verizon tech support.  just spent 2k on tv that isn't compatible with fios and hdmi cables.  also spent 70 bucks on one cable.  never was this "issue" mentioned to me from verizon!  just sign and pay your bill i guess.  called support, he told me to used component cables instead.  i told him i don't have them and won't spend another 70 bucks on new cables because of fios problems.  he then tells me circuit city is going under and i can a set for cheaper there.  are you kidding me?  i told him to send a tech out with comparable component cables and i wouldn't spend a nickel on another set of cables.  he sent me to billing, who can't do anything for me either.  SUPRISE!!!  i'm going to but the most expensive set of component cables i can find and send verizon the bill.  they can take that amount off of my bill, along the first months charge for tv i coould't watch.
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Staffer21
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‎02-23-2009 06:57 PM

You have a few options. You could buy component cables from a place like monoprice.com or firefold.com. Both offer same quality cables at a fraction of a cost.

You could try to get Verizon to send you a different box. Not all of the boxes don't work. Verizon just hasn't come to terms that it is their problem and not a Samsung problem. By simply changing out to a different box (same model), my Samsung TV started working just fine with HDMI

Last option, you could walk away from Verizon and go with a different provider. 

Hopefully, Verizon will eventually get a box that doesn't tend to have this handshake problem. 

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DCGTLS
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In response to Staffer21
‎02-23-2009 08:47 PM
I have a Samsung LN52A650 with FIOS TV. I am running the HDMI from the FIOS box thru my Yamaha AVR to the TV without any issue at all. I think that since the handshake is not directly from the TV to the FIOS box is the reason. I have read all over the internet of people having handshake issues with the Samsung to the Fios box. If you have a surround sound system that has HDMI you may want to try running it that way.
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jamieva
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‎02-23-2009 08:59 PM
I have a Samsung LCD with an HD DVR and never had a problem using the HDMI cable with it.
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Carl
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In response to jamieva
‎02-24-2009 08:32 AM

I have an LN22A450 in the bedroom attached to the 6200 via HDMI with no issues.

I am a lucky one. 

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Staffer21
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In response to Carl
‎02-24-2009 09:46 AM
I know plenty of people who have this same issue, and they do not have a Samsung TV. Some have Sony, some have Toshiba, and some have pioneer. The problem is a per box issue, and not a whole sale problem. If it was a whole sale problem, and only with Samsung, I wouldn't have gotten a working box just by moving the problem box to a different TV.
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marley
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In response to jamieva
‎02-25-2009 05:04 AM

Why pay 70 bucks for a HDMI cable when you can the same cable for under 5 bucks. 

 www.monoprice.com.  There have been numerous test on Monster versus Monoprice and the quality is the same.

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badmessanger
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‎02-27-2009 08:53 AM

Samsung has many know HDMI and firmware "issues"  a simple Google search will tell you, it is not simply an issue with Fios or even motorolla boxes, it has also been seen with PS3's DVD and bluray players, other cable providers set-top boxes, etc etc etc

If you issue is the "unsupported mode" , the problem is simply that, your TV will not display 480i when using an HD hookup.... change the SD override in the DVR to 480p and that should resolve your issue.

On a side note, Verizon knows how much cables cost.... do not expect to be reimbursed in full, for purchasing over priced cables.... especially after admitting to doing it out of spite, on their own website

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commish_ffl
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In response to badmessanger
‎03-11-2009 12:34 PM
@badmessanger wrote:

Samsung has many know HDMI and firmware "issues"  a simple Google search will tell you, it is not simply an issue with Fios or even motorolla boxes, it has also been seen with PS3's DVD and bluray players, other cable providers set-top boxes, etc etc etc

If you issue is the "unsupported mode" , the problem is simply that, your TV will not display 480i when using an HD hookup.... change the SD override in the DVR to 480p and that should resolve your issue.

On a side note, Verizon knows how much cables cost.... do not expect to be reimbursed in full, for purchasing over priced cables.... especially after admitting to doing it out of spite, on their own website

Hey BadMessanger, 

I am also getting the "Not Supported Mode", but only seem to get this with the DVR.  I have gone over countless calls with Verizon's "tech support", and the only thing they can ever tell me is that it is a known issue.  No one ever suggested to change the SD Override to 480P.  Can you tell me where I can find this setting change? 
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prisaz
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In response to commish_ffl
‎03-11-2009 03:15 PM

Here you can change the video output settings for the STB. 

Menu\Settings\Video Settings\Video Format

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klb
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‎03-06-2009 08:15 AM
I have a Samsung HD TV and the 6214 Motorola box.  I had no issues until last week, about 12 months after getting the HDVR.  It's been so many things, I have forgotten what went wrong in the first place = oh, yes, the picture froze.  I went through more than 5 troubleshooting calls.  One resulted in a new box being sent.  I hooked up the new box and then began losing sound intermittently.  Reboot, re-initializing, and a new HDMI cable didn't work for long.  The last service rep told me to go to Samsung for a patch or use component cables.  I didn't use component cables in the first place because the installer couldn't get them to work.  No patch on the Samsung website for my tv.  Called Samsung and the rep said they will send me a firmware update.  Since none was listed on the website, I was hoping the tech knew what they were doing.  Now I read on the forum that this might not work.  If this is the wonderful new world of digital tv, bring back analog.  I never had these problems then.  So many possibilities you need to be an engineer or a full-time nerd.  I think the person who said it was a STB issue is probably right, otherwise, why did the hdmi cable work for a year with the Samsung TV and the old box.  Maybe this 6.1.2 patch, whatever that is will fix the problem without a firmware update.
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CharlesH
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‎03-12-2009 11:18 AM

There is a known issue with certain TV's whether it is Samsung, Sony, Vizio, LG, and others...it is not limited to Verizon.  As badmessenger said, this issue happens with many other Video providers aswell. Verizion cannot send you cables or anything to fix it, just refer you to the store to buy component cables, as it is the only work around besides buying a different TV which doesnt make any sense...there is no firmware or software for your TV.

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