game show network
rmjsym
Enthusiast - Level 1

See that Verizon is taking Game Show Network off of FIOS TV Ultimate TV at the end of January 2018.  How do we get it back?

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WaffleWally
Newbie

We literally watch HGTV, some sports and (formerly) GSN. Other than that, Netflix and other streaming services have what we need. The fact we pay what we pay and can’t watch rerun game shows tells you exactly how much trouble Verizon is in. Days are numbered for these cable oligopolies. It’s a shame this legal extortion has gone on as long as it has. 

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

Blame the content providers.

they are the ones who require cable companies to bundle channels together.

notice how none of the streaming services over a la carte.

plus streamers get away without some of the fees imposed by local governments.

as more people cut cable, local governments will try and impose more few.

either streaming services or on intenrt providers.

Seeker1437
Community Leader
Community Leader

From the Fios TV Terms of Service you agreed to in order to activate your TV service:

“3. SERVICECHANGES.
Subject to applicable law, we reserve the right to change, rearrange, add, delete or otherwise modify the Service at any time, with or without prior notice to you, including changing, rearranging or otherwise modifying our Programming packages, the selections available in those packages, the Equipment, any Other Devices, and any other features, products and services that we offer. Verizon or its suppliers may, without notice or liability, restrict the use of any Services or limit its time of availability in order to perform maintenance activities and to maintain security. Not all services may be available in all areas.”

love-GSN
Newbie

We renewed our fios contract a couple months ago. We have been watching GSN since then. All of a sudden GSN is only available with an upgrade. How can Verizon remove channels during a contract? I thought changes could only be made after the contract time is up.

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dmc-mdc
Enthusiast - Level 2

This sounds totally wrong for you guys that are under contract.  Verizon has their early termination fees written into the contract, so that prevents you from going anywhere.  There really needs to be some LAW in place that protects the customers, or gives them the option of cancelling the contract without any penalties if the vendor makes any changes.

In this case, Verizon isn't even deciding to no longer carry the channel, they are simply moving it to a higher costing tier.  In effect, that has changed the contract that you signed and you should be able to cancel without any fees.

I'm no longer under contract, and I'm getting annoyed at the number of channels that are being dropped due to carriage contract disputes.

As Verizon likes to say "Verizon works hard on behalf of our Fios TV customers to deliver the best TV service; with the programming you have come to expect at a reasonable price. We don’t want to increase customers’ rates due to unfair price increases from programming partners, and we’ll work tirelessly to ensure that does not happen."

The problem with that is, by dropping the channel, that means Verizon has actually reduced the amount they are paying for content (save for Bloomberg, as my understanding is that it was previously provided for free and they now wish to charge providers for the content). 

I have yet to see my bill go down in cost even though Verizon has dropped The Weather Channel, Bloomberg, and Univision - and probably more that I haven't even noticed.

I switched to Verizon because I got tired of Directv dropping channels, and I switched to Directv because I got tired of Dish doing the same thing.   If it continues I will drop Verizon.

CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

Contract slows deletes and adds during term. Which is fairly standard amongst providers. Changes are usually made around contract renewals with content providers. And usually involves a fee increase. So some packages could be dropped to limit increases.

jayshadow74
Newbie

7 months ago, I switched from Comcast to Verizon...I was told it would a 2 year contract @ the same rate.  I purchased Extreme HD package.   This package no longer carries GSN.  I either have to upgrade, (pay more money), or downgrade (lose more channels)...I've talked to at least 3 people on the phone, and got three different solutions. Bottom line, they're brushing me off..Do you have anymore options?..Very frustrated!!!

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stevenberry541

Just learned of this too.  If only I could convince my gf to get off of cable and onto something like Sling.

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ronnie423
Enthusiast - Level 3

sling is not cable tv or anything not a cable tv like fios is cheaping than other like game show netork stlll on fios but watch buzzer gsn made end the network  or go to buzzer ok buzzer owns on channel 9 fox ok gsn  going off the air ok loss ratings 

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bigmike258
Newbie

I would gladly give up the free Showtime for 2 years that was included with my bundle to get GSN back  or buzzr tv added...  I'm having match game with gene rayburn withdrawal.  Verizon needs to fix this no gsn problem.... there are plenty of worthless channels they can drop in the extreme hd to make room for the probably 50 cents per subscriber they were giving gsn

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

Keep in mind there are two costs for carrying content.

There are fixed costs to connect plus the subscriber costs.

Game show network averages about 10m viewers. Approximately 3% of US population.

there is in the neighborhood of 110m cable subscribers. So about 3 people per subscriber.

That would mean there are about 3m households watching gsn.

So if Verizon has about 5% of cable, that would mean they have 150k households watching.

given your cost (none of us have any idea) of $.50/subscriber, that would mean Verizon pays $2.5m/month. That works put to nearly $17/viewer. Even if they only pay $.05, it would mean $1.70. And that is for a single channel. You can see why a channel can be dropped or moved to only higher tiers given these margins.

lp1955
Enthusiast - Level 1

So Verizon want's more money. Watch the Game show network every once in a while and enjoy it. Now the Verizon bigwigs decide that it will cost me another 30$ a month to watch it. Nice way to treat a loyal customer who has been with you from the beginning of Fios. 15 Months from now I will see what other options are out there and you can say by by to a triple play customer.

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JLurie
Newbie

Just found out you get it back for $30 more. People should be outraged, just took in my motherinlaw who watched it so i had to pay. HBO only $15. I am ok with Verizon over Comcast but when contract ends Comcast will be looking good again. Totally unacceptable that they have done this for a simple channel that runs reruns all day.

Sad Sad Sad Verizon. Enjoy all your new tax money.

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

Pretty sure you got a lot more than GSN for $30.

Yes, that may have been all you wanted but you can't compare cost of HBO to package upgrade that gives a number of extra channels.

Mkhuon1142
Newbie

I was watching this channel, GSN, about an hour ago and suddenly a message appeared on my TV telling me that was not subscribed to this channel.  My package DOES include this.  When I spoke to agent about this I was told that this channel has been removed from package since a few days ago.  I did not receive any notification about this removal from Verizon and I would like to know why this channel was removed.  I was also told that if I wanted to subscribe to this channel I would need to get another package and would have to pay an additional amount to change to this package.  I would like Verizon to explain this decision to me to remove this channel from my package.

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

Check the messages on your stb. It was listed there are to what packages were going to be affected. Probably on your bill as well

wkappl
Enthusiast - Level 1

I am exceedingly annoyed at Verizon right now. I understand that they have the right to do this, but we, on the other hand, have to commit to a 2 year contract. My wife and I switched to save money on overpriced cable but are now only saving $20 per month. I will honor my commitment simply because I don't want to pay a big penalty to get out, but at the end of 2 years Verizon is OUT! Ironically, when I told my cable company that I was leaving, they told me they would have cut me to $180 for the service that I had. I am not dissatisifed with Verizon service or quality, but it is outrageous that you now get LESS for the same money and have to spend MORE just to stay where you are! I will tell anyone I know who is considering switching to FIOS about this. Even my cable company didn't pull this on me without notice!

Emru1
Enthusiast - Level 1

When I Tweeted about GSN after signing on for less than six months the agent arrogantly responded with a link to the contract. I sent her back the Verizon credo. 

Verizon credo: We keep our commitments to each other and to our customers. Our word is our contract. We respect and trust one another, communicating openly, candidly and directly since any other way is unfair and a waste of time. 

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SUPERVIZOR342
Enthusiast - Level 1

ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP FOR PACKAGES WITH GSN SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED INTO GETTING IT TO THE COMPLETION OF THEIR CONTRACT. I WAS TOLD THAT I HAD TO UPGRADE TO GET IT(WHAT A SCAM) I COULD SEE IF THE CHANNEL WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT ALL COMPLAIN TO THE FCC. YOU CAN PUT IN AN ONLINE COMPLAINT

Shamrock14
Enthusiast - Level 1

Please tell me why negotiations to keep the channels that I paid for and now have lost a dozen or so are not being replaced.  Most of them seem to be movie channels and I like them.  They were on my list when I made the contract and now I still pay the same price but don't have the same amount of channels.  The Game Show Network, Reelz the Movie channel etc.  I want them back.