having trouble getting my old Panasonic VHR to record off the new Fios cable box,
robbt1959
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hello all , this is my first post, hopefully someone can assist me,
 I recently switched over to Fios cable and I am having trouble getting my old Panasonic VHR to record off the new cable box, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Fios has not been very helpful,
 
many thanks
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clem21
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@robbt1959 wrote:

hello gentlemen, Eurika , I am now in business.

thank-you for your patience. the line setting was the key.

 wait for weekend to start recording Rat Patrol.

now if I could only get full screen all the time ?

  many thanks, chat  with you all soon, rob


Try this in the Fios box settings:

Main Menu > Settings > Audio & Video > Video Settings>TV Type> select 4:3 Pan and Scan.

You can also try this:

Main Menu > Settings > Audio & Video > Video Settings>SD Override> select Stretch.

And try:

Main Menu > Settings > Audio & Video > Video Settings>Video Format> 480i 4:3

Some combination of those should help you.

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clem21
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@robbt1959 wrote:
hello all , this is my first post, hopefully someone can assist me,
 I recently switched over to Fios cable and I am having trouble getting my old Panasonic VHR to record off the new cable box, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, Fios has not been very helpful,
 
many thanks

If you are hooking up the VCR with coax, it won't work anymore since the signal is now digital, not analog like it used to be. The only way you can record with the VCR is to use the composite out of the DVR box. That's the red, white and yellow connectors to the corresponding connectors on the VCR. You then have to choose the AV input on the VCR to get a picture.

robbt1959
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I have a picture , but it will not record anything I am watching

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dexman
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I'm a little confused about the problem.

Can you record voice & video using the arrangement described by Clem?

Can you playback what is recorded on tapes?

Which model STB did Verizon provide?

Is it possible to take a picture of how the cables are connected to the back of the VCR and the STB?

robbt1959
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hello, only static no picture, Fios told me is impossible to make it work, they also told me I could not enlarge the picture signal.

cannot get a signal on the tv even the time , will try again later , please keep posting and checking back in  .

many thanks

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dexman
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I'll defer to others if I'm incorrect, but I seem to recall reading that an external recording device cannot be connected to the 4100 VMS. The VMS (the main unit) contains the hard drive for the subscription DVR service.

I rent three 4100 series STBs and own a Panasonic DVD recorder/player. In my bedroom I have a 4100 mini (expansion unit) along with two of the required adapters.

I'll need to try to connect everything and see if it works properly.  🤔

clem21
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@robbt1959 wrote:

hello, only static no picture, Fios told me is impossible to make it work, they also told me I could not enlarge the picture signal.

cannot get a signal on the tv even the time , will try again later , please keep posting and checking back in  .

many thanks

box ipc4100 version, [ yes version ]


Again, you CANNOT use the coax cable to connect the VCR. It is now digital and the VCR will not recognize it. If you look at the back of the VMS 4100 you'll see an HDMI jack, and a red, white yellow set of jacks. Those are what you connect to the red, white and yellow INPUT jacks of the VCR. You then select either composite, or AV input on the VCR. You should have a picture and sound you can then record.

Screenshot 2023-03-18 at 18-14-23 Fios TV One setup instructions for Coax - vms_4100_new_coax.pdf.png

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The top image  is the back of the VMS 4100, look on the left and you'll see the yellow, white and red jacks you need to hook up to the INPUT jacks on theVCR. The middle picture is the back of the IPC 4100. The small jack to the right of the HDMI connector is for an AV adaptor that came with the IPC. The coax connection is for data , not an analog signal the VCR can use. The bottom picture is of a generic Panasonic VCR. If there isn't a red, then just use the white and yellow INPUT jacks to connect the Fios box to the VCR. The adaptor is like the picture at the bottom with a short cable between the jacks pictured.

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robbt1959
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hi guys , nothing  yet will try again tomorrow too tired to try tonite

hang in with me , many thanks

dexman
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If possible, could you take a picture of the existing cabling between the STB & the VCR and post it for us to look at? 🤔

robbt1959
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hi , yes , how do I post pictures ?

 also what is   stb ?

 sorry to be a pain, many thanks, rob

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clem21
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@robbt1959 wrote:

hi , yes , how do I post pictures ?

 also what is   stb ?

 sorry to be a pain, many thanks, rob


STB is the Fios box (set top box). To post pictures, click on the camera icon above the content box. 

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Click on "choose file" and find the picture you want to post. Then click on upload. When it is uploaded click done and the picture will appear in the message.

Part of the problem is we don't know anything about your VCR or your TV.  Is the TV a modern flat-panel TV or an old tube TV? Are you hooking up the Fios box to the TV directly via an HDMI cable or just through the VCR? Are you trying to use coax cable for the hookup? Can you tell us the make and model of the TV? All the details help, that's why dexman asked for a picture.  You really don't need to use a VCR to record shows, the Fios box has a built in recorder (DVR) that you use to record and playback shows. That means you only need the VCR to playback old tapes. We need to know the kind of jacks that are on the back of your TV to know how to hook up your equipment.

dexman
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One quick addition to Clem's reply. Submitted pictures are put into a queue for a site Moderator to review before they become visible to us. So don't get thrown by the empty picture boxes. The images will eventually appear. 🙂

robbt1959
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hi guys , will work on the pictures I have a old sony table top tv  and i am attempting to use a Panasonic vcr to record movies from my new fios box , not going well , this one will play but not record.

, I have another panasonic unit hooked up and working on a old Daewoo table top,  , this one works  plays and records. can you expand on how to post picture I am new here

many thanks, rob

clem21
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@robbt1959 wrote:

hi guys , will work on the pictures I have a old sony table top tv  and i am attempting to use a Panasonic vcr to record movies from my new fios box , not going well , this one will play but not record.

, I have another panasonic unit hooked up and working on a old Daewoo table top,  , this one works  plays and records. can you expand on how to post picture I am new here

many thanks, rob


Did you see my post above on posting a picture? If you have an old Sony TV,  is it a tube TV or an old flat panel?  does it have a yellow, red and white RCA input on the back? Or a yellow and white RCA input? Or is it only coax? Either way you have to take the OUTPUT of the VCR and send it to the TV either using a yellow ,red, white RCA cable or a yellow, white RCA cable. IF you use coax out from the VCR you have to tune the TV to either channel 3 or 4 , which ever the VCR is set to output. The input of the VCR  HAS TO BE hooked up to the Fios box using the red, white yellow adaptor if you are using the IPC (mini) box. You then choose AV input on the VCR. That is VERY important. The coax connections on the Fios boxes are INPUTS for data, not outputs for TVs to use. The diagram shows you what I am talking about. Either use coax from the VCR to the TV and tune the TV to channel 3 or 4, or use red, yellow ,white to the TV and use the AV input on the TV. Do not use both methods.

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robbt1959
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hello all located my cable to upload picture here we are , please ask questions and I will try and answer, many thanks, rob

 

 

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dexman
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It's been a while since I had to connect a vintage television (I had a Sony Trinitron but now have a Sony KD-43X85K).

Note: the STB pictured is a 4100 mini as opposed to the 4100 VMS/main.

The connection chain should be STB (output)-> VCR(input)

Then: VCR(output) -> TV(input).

The connections will be done using the RCA patch cords. (I don't remember if I had to use a coaxial cable between my VCR, my DVD recorder and the television). If the coaxial cable connection is used between the VCR and television, then you'll need to switch between the VCR and television using the tv's remote control.

dexman
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It might be worth looking into replacing the television at some point. My old Sony Trinitron (vintage 1992 or 95) was as heavy as a boat anchor and took a bit of muscle to move from my attic bedroom down two flights of stairs to my car to get it over to the town's recycling center and lift it out of the trunk. 😫

My Sony KD-43X85K weighs about half as much as the Trinitron. The display is a really nice upgrade from what I was used to with the old TV. 👍

clem21
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You are half way there. Look at the diagram posted and follow that. Like dexman said, go from the Fios box, to the  red, white, yellow INPUTS of the VCR. You need another Red, white, yellow cable to go from the red, white yellow OUTPUTS of the VCR to the red, white yellow inputs of the TV. Leave the TV on the input you have already set it to, just hook up the VCR the way it shows in the diagram. You will probably have to leave the VCR  on all the time to see TV from the Fios Box. Right now it looks like you have the RWY from the Fios box going directly to the TV. That has to get moved to the INPUT of the VCR, and the VCR has to be switched to AV INPUT with the TV/VCR button on the front of the VCR.

robbt1959
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hi gentleman, please forgive me as i am new at this ,
 
good afternoon, its afternoon in NY,n
 
a] Leave the TV on the input ,,,, is this the Tv  / video button on the front of my sony tv ?....please expand ? 
 
 
b] You will probably have to leave the VCR  on all the time........ this is how the one in the bedroom is currently working
 
 
 
c] VCR has to be switched to AV INPUT... how do I do this ??
 
 sorry to be a pain, have to mow the lawn today,  but will work on this tonite .
 sorry guys this is a new world for me ,
 
 many thanks, robbt
 
 
dexman
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A). "Video" would be the line input. This is the three jacks in the back of the television. Another way of looking at this is what button do you press to watch VCR tapes?

With this arrangement, the VCR will be acting like a switch between Fios and VCR tapes. The television will be acting as a monitor with speakers.

B). I didn't have to leave my Sony VCR or my still working Panasonic DVD recorder turned on 24/7, but that may or may not be the case with your equipment.

C). If we were sitting in front of the equipment, it would be much easier to figure out which button to push.

If you still have the VCR deck's owner's manual, it should explain which button does what. If you don't have the manual, it might be available online. 🙂

robbt1959
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hi guys, I have the vcr playing tapes on the rwy cables in & out. but not the cabel box  blue screen on
[ video  channel] static when off video channel
 
how do I Leave the TV on the input ?
 
VCR has to be switched to AV INPUT ?
 
has anyone tried apollo tv ?
 
sorry for being so slow, but I am new at this .
 
please post, many thanks, rob