Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
ibanez737
Contributor - Level 1

Probably going to be replacing my home internet (or not setting it up when I move that is).  It seems like the 4G Hotspot speeds are capped, but still getting on average about 6-10 Mbps, which is more than enough for what I usually use it for.  Word on the street is the hotspot package will still be unlimited, but will cost an extra $30 on top of the data plan.  However, I do think the app has a built in throttle that doesn't allow the full use of the network.  I get at least 20+ Mbps from the phone but have never gone above 10 on my ipad linked to the phone.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
PJNC284
Master - Level 2

ha, I need some of what those people are smoking who thinks there will be unlimited tethering for $30.  Highly unlikely.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
Tidbits
Legend

from what I read that's a bug with the app itself, and not the actual speed.  So you may be getting 10 and not 20.  I would love unlimited tethering for $30, but honestly unless Verizon has the backend support I'd surely slow down majority of the users near me(at home I average 220GB+ a month, and yes I track my usage at home lol).  No I do not stream much or download ripped dvds or music if someone asks...  Most of it is work related which I have to upload LARGE files.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
ibanez737
Contributor - Level 1

PJNC284 wrote:

ha, I need some of what those people are smoking who thinks there will be unlimited tethering for $30.  Highly unlikely.


Unfortunately, the information I saw is no longer around.  Maybe it is being changed around but I'm going to keep my eyes open.  $30 for unlimited, even if its throttled would work for me.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
jdudley1019
Newbie

Talked to a rep at Best Buy today and he informed me that after May 15th the mobile hotspot will be $20 for 2GB a month.  Now I'm not sure how reliable he was but he seemed convincing to me.  Of course I don't think I'll get it because I won't really need it but maybe this can help some people thinking about keeping the mobile hotspot after the 15th.  Oh and if you don't want it (after May 15th) you CAN cancel it or you will be billed.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
PJNC284
Master - Level 2

 


jdudley1019 wrote:

Talked to a rep at Best Buy today and he informed me that after May 15th the mobile hotspot will be $20 for 2GB a month.  Now I'm not sure how reliable he was but he seemed convincing to me.  Of course I don't think I'll get it because I won't really need it but maybe this can help some people thinking about keeping the mobile hotspot after the 15th.  Oh and if you don't want it (after May 15th) you CAN cancel it or you will be billed.


yeah, he has no clue what he's talking about.  It's already been said that it's Opt in.  On May 15th it will just drop off and those who want it will have to re-add it. 

 

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
mysticalmalissa
Enthusiast - Level 1

Yeah thats what I was told by verizon, as of the 15th it will just stop working and you will have to add it.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
wmaddenpgh
Newbie

Ok, let's get done with the drama - if you read your contract, you get unlimited 4G service on your phon

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
wmaddenpgh
Newbie

Ok, here's the deal - I'm an EE who specializes in network communications.  Here's a REALLY simple way to understand how all this stuff works.

 

The 4G plan Verizon is offering you on your phone is the equivalent of if you had a REALLY high speed cable modem that had one ethernet plug you could plug your computer into.  In this case, the computer is your phone.  Imagine the cable modem was so small it fit into your phone and hade a radio instead of a landline connection, so you could walk around and do everything you wanted all over the world,  (assuming the software could handle the really small screen and underpowered processor) that your computer could do.  It knows how to find the data at the Verizon level, and get it to your phone, even if the data is in China.  That means you could connect to Pandora with unlimited music, watch YouTube, surf (some) of the Net, use Fring or Skype (assuming Skype worked on your phone) to make free video calls, connect to Picassa, Photobucket, etc.  Everything (more or less) works for $29.95. 

 

That's pretty easy, because you're one number on the network and that number never changes, and because the size of the screen and other stuff is fixed, it's easy to calculate how much information comes down the "pipe."  For most people, this is about 5-10 GB per month.

 

Teathering is a different thing, and it can be looked at one of two or three ways from the pricing perspective.

 

When you "teather" to a 4G device as a "hotspot," you're accessing the "routing" function of the device.  There's a difference between a modem and a router - a modem connects one device and modulates/demodulates (MoDeM) the information from the phone company into something a computer can understand.  A router understands how to "route" that data to four to eight other devices that know how to talk to a local network (think - your iPod, your GPS and your Laptop.)  and get data back to those devices, in addition to your phone, from China.

 

In the old days, routing was done by women sitting in rolling chairs, plugging patch cables into a "switch" to connect to "Pennsylvania 6-5000" if you've seen the old movie. (PA 6-5000 was the same as 192.168.136.8 as a network address.) Your phone now knows where "Pennsylvania 6-5000 is, and about a BILLION other things that don't require women in rolling chairs.  It also knows where your iPod is, and your camera, and your Laptop, assuming they have wireless access to the "hotspot" and you've told them to connect.

 

So one way to look at pricing is to look at if the "hotspot" costs Verizon anything more to provide.  Since you provide the "pipe" (your wi-fi connection) between the router and your devices (iPod, Laptop, etc.) there's no cost to Verizon there.  But they have given you a function you'd have to buy - routing services.  Today a router costs $19.95, so that's not the cost. 

 

What you're supposedly paying for is the size of the "pipe".  If you think about your toilette, you understand how the "pipe" works - if you put too much crap in your toilette, everything stops when you flush it.  That's the fundamental "Mobile Broadband" service, independent of 3G/4G - the pipe from Verizon's server to your phone, and the diameter of that "pipe" is how fast <ahem> stuff flows into your phone, and down through the stacks into the sewer.. 

 

The "router" is the "Stack" in your house - you're toilette is on the same stack as your shower, your sink and maybe your utility tub (you iPad, iPhone, laptop, and Xbox.) Unlike your house, though, the "stuff" flows from the sewer (the INternet) into your house.  And THAT'S what you're paying for - a BIG stack so you can get more stuff if you teather.  Or at least that's the argument.

 

I am a road warrior - I haven't had a home in almost three years.  I live on the road in hotels, both in the US and internationally.  I'm kinda like George Clooney in Up in the Air, without the good hair, a big beer belly, and a bad smile.  My lifeline is my mobile connection.  I use it to watch the Steelers' on my Slingbox, watch the NHL and MLB packages over the internet in HD, the occassional streaming movie on Netflix (normally my Netflix DVDs are chasing me around the country/world) Hulu, etc.  I've got a lot of "Stuff" flowing into my system.

 

I have an unlimited Sprint connection at 6-12 kbs in the 4G areas.  I also have the Verizon 4G service.  My Verizon service doesn't give me an advantage over 4G, and tomorrow, I'll have to pay more to teather, despite the fact that the towers have the same bandwidth capabilities.  IMO, at this point, Verizon would be charging me to provide them with my routing services.

 

I will not be signing up for Verizon's mobile hotspot plan on the 4g until they stop charging me for providing them with my internal "Stack."  However, I am the exception - Most people are not going with their primary internet off of a mobile device.  And if you already have home internet, regularly eat at McDonalds or some other hotspot provider, etc.  $20/month for 2 GB of teathering is going to be more than you need.

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Re: Free 4G til May 15th scares me....
Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader
VZW may have extended the free hotspot until June 15th.

http://www.androidcentral.com/thunderbolts-free-mobile-hotspot-extended-through-june-15-post-promo-p...

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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