Cases for KIN Two ?
Pammy
Contributor - Level 1

Hello.  Has anyone tried any of the cases for the Kin Two like the Body Glove?   I'm pretty notorious for dropping my phone.  I can't imagine a case wouldn't interfere with the sliding qwerty keyboard but wondered if anyone has tried a case.

 

Thanks.

Pam

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ahoyjmai
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How well does the full-face screen protector fit? I bought the smaller (fits only over the screen) because i was doubtful.

I imagine since its rounded on all edges that creating a thing sheet that fits is challenging.

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fisharefriends
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I don't know about the 'cheaper' versions of hte full-screen protector. But i do know that the skinomi screen protectors (which are the full screen) cover it nearly perfectly, and because of their more flexible material, as well as better adhesive, they stick very well and are very durable, and are pretty much a perfect fit on the screen. The corners are near impossible to turn up, and i would highly recommend spending the $10 to get a Skinomi skin rather than the cheaper, 'buy-n-replace' skins. Its application takes a bit longer (about an hour to apply, and 12-24 to cure), but it is well worth it after that, you can hardly notice it on the phone, it protects against scratches (and the 'self-healing' advertising really does work), and it prevents fingerprints.

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tweak42
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Update: Treque holster  w/ Skinomi protector

 

Finally figured out how to apply the Skinomi without dust getting in the way (mostly).  By applying the Skinomi in a closed bathroom with the showing steaming, dust becomes a non issue.  I did the application for the back cover then the front screen on separate days.  

 

The back plate was easy because it's removable so you don't need to worry about moisture getting in the phone and you can press really hard to get the bubbles out.  The cut outs for the curved sides took a little repositioning but they adhere really well once cured.  The front was trickier, because it was hard to line up the holes, keep the bubbles out and watch out moisture didn't get in any of the holes.  My alignment was a little off and I did get a few bubbles that I had to patiently work out to the sides by pressing with my fingernail.  Over the last few days the other visible imperfections have faded to tolerable level but are still visible.  Compared to the screen protector I bought from Verizon, the Skinomi doesn't have the mirror glossy finish of the bare screen or old screen protector.  

 

The finish on the back plate and screen looks like a oily, slightly ripply gloss.  It does resemble a orange peel texture if you look closely at an angle reflection but it's only weakly textured in that regard.  Touch screen response seems to be about the same as bare screen.  Holding the phone now has a warm squeaky traction friction feel instead of the slippery hollow plastic.

 

With the Skinomi on the Kin, it does fit into the Treque belt clip holster but not quite as instant press-snap as before.  I have to press the catch lock in place now because with the extra skin layer in size and the added friction from the screen skin the spring latch will no longer latch flush on it's own when pressing the Kin into the holster.  The holster does appear to leave some wear makes on the skin where it contacts, but the self healing nature of the skin seems to keep it to a minimum.

 

Overall I'm happy with this setup, as my phone is not bumping around in my pockets, it's quickly accessible, and the controls are not encumbered in anyway.  I do wish the screen protector visibility was crystal clear, but that is the trade off for the self healing skin property.  I'm very careful and rarely ever drop my phone so I'm satisfied with only the scratch resistance protection of the Skinomi, others might not be so inclined.

 

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fisharefriends
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Glad you like it.

 

As far as the orange-peel effect goes, it only appears on the back of mine, not hte front. I'm pretty sure they have 2 different products, 1 for the screen which is higher quality (and orange-peel free), and 1 for every other part for all phones. My screen-side is as clear as it was before i put the skin on. At least, every little 'spot' imperfection on it is of my own fault through installation.

 

As far as getting it to snap in tighter, i don't know how much manual customization you want to go through, but you could try filing the clip down slightly to make it bigger, for the added sliver of bulk that the skin adds.

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tweak42
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Yes, I did consider filing the latch, but it's not to much of a deal since the extra fit means even more securely held in place. 

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Limestone
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fisharefriends,

I'm pretty sure I have the same case that you had. I also have the Skinomi (front only) skin, but I haven't applied it yet. Will your case fit on with the Skinomi applied?

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fisharefriends
Contributor - Level 3

Limestone, sorry it took so long to reply.

 

Are you talking about the AccessoryOne case? The skinomi skin does not fit underneath that one. The front portion of the phone almost does, it is a very tight, but it does not actually snap over without any work. If you wanted, you could simply cut the skin. Cut off the bottom portion and the top portion, and then the center screen portion will fit perfectly. If you are already covering the top and bottom with a case, having the skin there wouldn't add any extra protection. Really, you don't even have to cut too much off, just about half a centimeter from the edge, that way the case has enough clearance to just deform and snap on; once it snaps on, it won't fall off.  But to be safe, you could cut all the way up to the border of the case and just leave a little bit of overlap, then the entire thing will be covered. One other thing you could do is sand down the inside of the case to give it a little more clearance. It will be a little messy, but the good news is you never see the inside.

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dsonyay
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I received my AccessoryOne case yesterday. I paid about a dollar for it. With shipping about 4 dollars.

I was surprised- the case is a bit nicer than I thought. Just a tad of thickness is added- but I think this will help prevent the volume buttons from moving by accident. It does have a slight affect on the round camera button- but not a major interference.

The phone still slips in my back pocket quite easily- but I don't normally carry it there. The texture is good enough to where the slick feel of the bare phone is eliminated.

With the cover on, the phone slide-out feature is much better than without. Probably the added thickness adding some mass. But- when typing, the little tabs on the case that grab the keyboard kinda bug me. I can feel them poking my palms.

Time will tell how well the case can hold together. Not much to lose here- this is a case costing under 5 bucks with shipping. Mine is black and looks nice.
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fisharefriends
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Regarding the tabs while texting/typing, if you have a file, you can knock those down a little bit and then they are much less noticeable. Note, that filing them will take off the black paint since it is a very thin layer, but you can go over those with a permanent marker, and its hardly noticeable after that (unless you stare at them). I used this case for about a month before i decided i didn't like the bulk, its not much, but just enough to feel 'too big'. I ended up purchasing a skinomi full body skin, and i like this solution much better. I did end up filing down the volume buttons a little bit, and that was one of the best things i've done with the phone. Now, its hard to press them. I figured, there aren't many times i need to push them, especially in a hurry, so if it removes the accidental pocket press, it is well worth it. I can still press it fairly easily, so long as i can find it (the texture is nearly flush with the phone, so really i can move my finger over it without noticing). I've ordered a wriststrap for the phone, because i use it a lot for a camera, which will be great for making sure i don't drop it.

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Limestone
Newbie

fisharefriends, does the skinomi body wrap feel like it offers any impact protection? Or is it just for scratch resistance?

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fisharefriends
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I don't think it does add any impact resistance. It is a thin film, and a 'flexible' one at that, so the most you are getting is the elasticity of the thin material. Think of a screen protector, and that put on the entire body..doesn't really help much with drops. I will say though, if the phone does happen to crack (i'm talking about the battery cover, since physically that is the only part that even feels like it can crack from accidental dropping), the film will hold it together and it should be somewhat functional. I am 100% satisfied with my skinomi skin, it does exactly what i expected it to. The best part, is its 'self-healing' claim really is true, the material itself (i personally would like to know what material it is..but i guess thats a company secret or i just haven't done any research to find out) does have that elastic property to it, which more or less doesn't even let it scratch, it more 'dents' when it is scratched, which is why it can just retain its original 'non-scratched' form over time.

 

One thing to mention though: don't take any chemicals to the surface..like rubbing/denatured alcohol. I use that stuff at work for cleaning and such, and decided one day that i should degrease the phone with it. What that actually did was strip the surface of the skin, leaving permanent scratches and scrapes on the skin. Because i don't know what the skin material actually is, i can't say whether lighter cleaners like windex or such will compromise the skin, but its just safe to only use water..stick with soap and water.

 

To be honest though, the phone is very, very rigid on the front screen side. I can say, i've dropped my phone a few times, the hardest was on a hard carpet (the kind that really has no spring or thickness to it..like you would see in a store or business building) from arm's height, and not a single issue. It even sounded solid; my old phone, you could hear parts wiggling and such, but this phone gave it a hard 'thunk', which really gave me a sense of security that it was a solid phone. The only part i am worried about is the battery cover; however, while it does feel weak, theres a chance that microsoft chose a composite that is thin and light, but is stronger than it feels. I'm no materials expert (nor do i want to find out with my phone), but i don't have the insecurities of its physical quality that i did when i first bought the phone. Not to mention, if you're worried about dropping it, go ahead and add a camera wriststrap to it (read one of hte other threads on these forums on how to do so..i believe the title was as straightforward as 'Phone does have lanyard strap hold', or something like that).

 

I'd recommend the SKinomi skins..i have a full-body one, but if you do want the extra assurance from drops, go ahead and just buy the screen protector, and then cases still fit over it (a case won't fit over the phone with a full-body skin protector; the added thickness, although minute, is enough to make it so the clips don't snap on because they were designed for a tight fit in the beginning). Full-body are $19, and screen-only are $10. Also, they have lifetime replacement guarantees, and since i scratched my screen protector, as well as since applying it, i've gotten a warranty phone replacement, i went ahead and filed the replacement form. Their website has you do it by fax, and i didn't get a notification, reply, or any sort of confirmation of reception for a week or so, so i sent them an email last week. They replied and said that they were on top of it, apologizing for the delay, and that they were going to cover the shipping costs for the replacement, so hopefully by the end of next week, they will hold their word on that and i will be a very satisfied customer. Well worth the $10, or $19, especially with the lifetime replacements, if they hold their end of it. But even if they don't, this skin is very tough and unless you are dumb like me and applie heavy chemicals to it, there should be nothing in daily use that will damage the skin. And i've read about the Zagg invisibleShields, and while they don't make them for the Kin phones, they are essentially the same (same film material, application method, etc). The one difference is that I've read the Zagg's have an 'orange-peel' texture to them (which is bad), and i haven't noticed that at all on the Skinomi skins. So for me, Skinomi has my money, not Zagg. Zagg has the bigger name, Skinomi has the better product (and the only, for Kin phones..).

 

I did say i was going to post a full Skinomi review, but i haven't gotten around to it. Just a short review though, like stated above, i'd recommend it. It is a little 'tedious' to install, but i actually find it easier than the cheap, regular screen protectors because of hte ability to move and slide it once it is on the phone, due to it using a spray during application. Just quick advice, until i post the full review and installation guide/helpful tips, remember that the spray is not the adhesive itself, it is just something to keep the adhesive moist and not sticky during installation. Keep your fingers covered, but as for the actual skin, it only needs a light coat. Applie from the center, out, and let time dry the spray to press the edges down. All the micro-bubbles do disappear, so don't worry about those. What you do have to worry about are the larger bubbles, make sure you push all of those out, both the fluid bubbles and air bubbles. In theory, the fluid bubbles would disappear as it dries, but the problem is, if you seal in a large enough of a bubble, then it will never dry because it has no air flow to dry out. I hope to get around to a full review in a week or two (i know i said this last time..my apologies), but hopefully this will do for now.

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tweak42
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Fisharefriends are the Skinomi skins thin enough to still use with a belt clip holster?

 

 

My feedback on Body Glove case:

I bought a Body Glove case cheap off Amazon and used it for a few days as belt clip since all my previous phones have used belt clips.  It was an oem with a standard clip and not the kickstand clip, which was not a big deal for me.  Mine may have quality and tolerance issues as you'll later see.  The case does add to the bulk to the phone and makes it really grippy on the front and back surfaces.  The trade off is the front cover has been knocked off twice caught on clothing when wearing on the belt clip.  Also the keyboard slider has been brushed opened a few times wearing on the belt since it does not lock.  The backplate holds onto the phone via 6 lip points, 2 of which I'm constantly clicking back into place because slight any flexing pops them off. The front cover fit is loose, both at the lip points and the plastic diameter ringing the screen has some play/flex.  Another problem I found with the front cover is it makes it much more difficult to drag down the browser URL when in landscape mode due to it being so adjacent to the screen edge.  I find when browsing I will either take the front cover off or close the keyboard, turn the phone to portrait drag down the URL and then open the keyboard back to landscape.  

 

 

I'm apprehensive of the weight stressing on lip points may give and let the phone fall out so for now I'm carrying it in my pocket.  However the bulk and grippyness isn't pocket friendly, so I'm going to try a plain belt clip holster next (possibly with a skin), and after that a snap on hardshell.


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fisharefriends
Contributor - Level 3

The skinomi skin is just that, only a skin. It is as thin as you can get, just think of a thin piece of plastic. The only thing it will interfere with is a hard snap-on case, i'm guessing hte holster doesn't have any tight snap-on features to the phone. Snap-on cases are designed to fit snugly to the phone, hence the no clearance and the thickness of the skin being too much for them. But really, they are thin, they are very high-quality skins, and it is nearly unnoticeable once they are applied.

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tweak42
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Feedback on search for belt clip:

I purchased a Treque holster for the Kin Two and have been using it for the past week.   It differs from the cheaper plastic belt clips in that has a grippy rubberized coating and a spring catch to hold Kin into the holster.  It has openings on both top and bottom for sound and USB ports so it can be plugged in while in the holster, but no openings for the camera lens and button.  I was initially put off that the unit has the screen facing outwards and not inward to protect the screen from damage.  However the advantage is you can easily use the Kin while it is in the holster, and the keyboard stays firmly locked in place when holding in 1 fist clicking the side buttons.  The spring for the catch is medium tension but seems adequet so far as have not had the Kin dislodge itself yet.  The latch itself protrudes up and way out farther than needs and can easily hook on to passing clothing.  I remedied this using a electric grinding wheel to shave off the offending plastic.  After smoothing out the plastic using fine sandpaper and using a ink pen to color back in the plastic, it's very hard to tell that it wasn't originally made that way.

 

Overall I'm happy with this solution so I'm not going to buy the other plastic belt clip model.  I have purchased a Skinomi skin but haven't had time to apply it yet, (need to find a dust free place to apply it),  I'll report back when I had time to apply and use it.

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user1212
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i've had a case for awhile. mine's plastic. it seems fragile but whatever. it covers it fine and seems durable enough. i always thought the back of the kintwom was very slippery so i think the plastic back case drastically improves the grip, making it a whole lot easier to slide out the keyboard.

 

here's some pictures: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5444/95844352.jpg

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seebonbon
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oh thank you for posting those pics! i ordered the same kind, just a different style... amazon and its vendors don't have too much pics of this kind for some reason (i saw a few on karendeals and ordered it from there just bc they provided pics). so thanks again! was wondering how it would feel...

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michaelslw
Enthusiast - Level 3

thanks again for sharing!!

 

I've also wondered from looking at all these pictures of the cases, will the case have an effect on pressing the camera button? I think the camera button is hard to press as it is right now without the case (thank god for the on-screen button), but will the bulky case prevent us from touch that button at all?

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fisharefriends
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When it comes to pushing the camera button, i actually find it easier with the case. I have the $4 AccessoryOne black 'rubberized' case, and now when pushing the button, your finger actually kind of sinks into the button. My fingers aren't small, but they also aren't large. The problem without the case is the reverse-chamfer on the phone, added to the slippery nature of the plastic of the battery cover. Now, i can hold the phone tightly because of the rubber's friction, and then the groove for the camera button helps my finger go directly down on it.

 

As far as the friction of hte sliding goes, if you want to fix this, go ahead and take a file/sandpaper to the case's 'clipping areas', which is where i believe the parts are contacting. Don't file away too much, but just enough to give it some clearance. Worst-case scenario, you thin the clips too much and make them weak, and/or damage/break your $4 case (assuming you did the smart thing and filed it while the case was OFF the phone).

 

Also, if you don't like the additional bulkiness (about 1/8") added by cases, you could just spray some 'rubber' onto your battery cover. I thought about doing this, but i decided the bulkiness of hte case wasn't too bad to bother me (although i might change my mind in the future). Take off your cover, and go out and buy some Plasti-Dip (sells for about $6, for a quart-ish sized can..pretty cheap). It can be found in the paint section of Home Depot, and i assume the same for Lowes/other stores, or online. This stuff is the material they use for making plier-handles and other tool handles, but i also use a lot of this stuff for other purposes at work. It is really just a rubber-compound, with some Methyl-Ethyl Ketone (MEK) mixed in to make it 'liquidized' (the actual composition is on the can, although i never really read the whole label). They sell them in brush-on/dip cans, as well as spray-cans, i would recommend the spray-on for this application. There are directions on the container, but it is simple enough.

 

Make sure you are in a properly-aerated location like outdoors (as you would for any other chemicals), pop off the battery cover, and place it on a surface.Give it a light coating, to sufficiently cover the case, but not 'globby', and let it set. I think 1 coating is sufficient, but you can experiment with this and give it another if you like. Make sure you don't spray the inside, or the side 'clip' sections, which could cause the cover to not fit properly onto the phone. And Voila, you have a rubber-textured battery cover. This stuff does peel off, although i don't know how much prying you'd have to do without a release-agent applied.

 

If you are worried you will mess up, go ahead and apply some 'release agent' (some sort of oil..cooking oil, baby oil, shortening, it all will work) at first and practice around with the plasti-dip material. Then, peel it off (easily done with the release agent), and try again. When you are ready to apply the actual 'permanent' coating, make sure you degrease the cover (rubbing alcohol will do, or if you have denatured alcohol or other chemicals...although those stronger 'industrial' agents could also take off the paint from the cover) and apply the spray 1 last time. If you are still worried about ruining the phone battery cover, you can look online to see if they sell kin one/two battery covers (they don't need to be M models, the hardware between the old and new kin phones are identical), but i haven't done so, so i don't know if they sell extra covers for this phone that you could do this on. After time, it could possibly wear off, but then just apply another coat (there's plenty of this stuff in a can...for $6, you can find many other uses for it around the house, otherwise it'll just go to waste).

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Pammy
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I bought the Lime Green AccessoryOne case and thought it looked extremely cheap and really cheapened the look of the Kin Two, but maybe it's not as bad in other colors, especially black.  I did like my Body Glove much better, but just took it off and started using my phone naked. The body glove case fits great, looks good, adds great protection, and adds great texture, but it just bulks up the phone way too much for my liking.  It also was a pain to slip the phone into my back pocket since the case is so nice and grippy and so thick.  I'm getting used to the feel of the phone without any case, and it's starting to be easier to open without a case now that I"m getting used to it.  The Kin slips really nicely into my back pocket now.   It still is a slippery phone though.  I did think of one option I haven't seen mentioned.  I went on a search for something high quality that I might be able to stick on the Kin to give some traction.  Check out the attached link below.  They make these Egrips to fit many specific devices, but since they don't have a specific set for the Kin yet,  I thought a generic set of Egrips might be good so you can choose which pieces you want to use and where you want to put them, depending on how you hold your phone and where your fingers come in contact to the phone.  If you see a different set on their site you think might work better on the Kin, let me know, or let me know if you've found something similar local that you think would work well .  The Egrips come in different colors.  I thought black would be best on the Kin, but the clear might be a good choice too.  If you don't care about the color, their are some closeouts for only $1.99 instead of $12.95 for the one I picked out.  The first link below is the Universal Egrips I was thinking about ordering for $12.95, but I just found a smaller Egrips Universal set for only 99 cents (Buy It Now price)  with free shipping on Ebay (2nd link below).  The logo looks the same on Ebay as on the Manufacturer's website.  Can't beat that price!  I just ordered it.  I'll let you know how it works when I get it.   The 3rd link below is a YouTube video comparing the Egrips, to other manufacturers products.   Pam

 

Egrips Website

 

Egrips on Ebay for 99 cents

 

Egrip review on YouTube

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Pammy
Contributor - Level 1

I put the Egrips on the back of my phone, and it worked perfectly. No more slippery back.  I used two small strips, which are 1/4" wide by 1" long.   Placed them on opposite ends of the back of the phone, towards the bottom, which is where I thought my fingers are when I hold the phone, and it was the perfect position for me.   My middle and index fingers rest on the two strips.  Happy with the 99 cent solution.   :smileyhappy:

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