I guess packet loss is not a big issue for many users.
I'm have unacceptable service even though my device is showing 5 bars. Everything was fine up until a couple weeks ago. No all my connections are dropping packets. Looking at the Verizon Wireless hops, you can see the the network is responsible for the packet loss, not my device or connection to the tower. This has been going on so long now, I'm beginning to feel ripped off.
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. x.x.x.x 0.0% 70 1.0 1.1 0.6 5.6 0.7
2. 241.sub-66-174-12.myvzw.com 7.1% 70 50.2 84.4 23.2 495.6 109.8
3. 210.sub-69-83-28.myvzw.com 7.1% 70 42.4 87.2 26.9 633.3 113.7
4. 249.sub-69-83-28.myvzw.com 15.7% 70 28.5 77.5 19.4 780.7 131.8
5. 17.sub-69-83-28.myvzw.com 14.5% 69 34.8 68.6 21.1 714.8 115.4
6. 170.sub-69-83-28.myvzw.com 14.5% 69 33.9 64.5 25.6 647.7 95.2
7. ???
8. ???
9. ???
10. 4.59.144.25 10.1% 69 59.3 92.0 29.8 758.5 144.2
11. ae-2-70.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net 20.3% 69 57.3 46.7 20.5 237.6 28.4
12. 206.111.0.65.ptr.us.xo.net 14.5% 69 115.9 98.1 27.2 2298. 306.5
13. ???
14. ae0d0.mcr1.columbus-oh.us.xo.net 14.5% 69 49.7 89.2 40.0 716.8 125.5
15. 207.238.252.121 4.3% 69 69.1 141.9 38.8 2094. 280.1
I mean, "Now all my connections are dropping packets."
Wow, no response? What's the point of having this forum if no one cares about the VZW network dropping packets on every node?
I guess packet loss is not a big issue for many users.
Nope. Packet loss of this consistency and magnitude across all these nodes is everyone's problem. If the issue were on my end, you'd see loss at the first hop. The rest is beyond my own control and entirely the fault of VZW's LTE network. It used to be fine. Now it isn't.
After 13 1/2 years I dropped Verizon yesterday due to the same issue. If you look over the board for the past month people have been losing 4g down to 3g or 1x yet every one of their forum people seems oblivious to the problem. When I switched I had a long talk with the customer rep about it. Currently I'm sitting at my desk next to a co-worker who is still on Verizon, he's at 1x I'm at 4g.
I didn't want to leave but I needed my access. If I wanted the service I was getting I'd have gone with a flip phone good only for texting and that's it.
This sounds pretty frustrating, but it's completely different from the problem I'm having. I have significant dropped packets even though I have a stalwart 5-bar connection to the tower. I never lose calls. My situation has nothing to do with device or cell tower reliability and everything to do with the connections between the devices in Verizon's own LTE network. It also seems Level 3 shares some of the blame since their hop also shows significant losses.
I can't say with any certainty why this crap is happening, only that it is. We are paying a premium for a service that is not delivering on its promise. I think it's quite possible that the destruction of net neutrality has something to do with it. Perhaps normal users are getting shoved into a congested pipe that can't handle the network load, while high-paying strategic partners are getting the red carpet treatment. At the very least, the network isn't performing the way it should. It's no coincidence that speedtest.net results are acceptable while actual connections to Google and Facebook frequently fall below 1k per second. ISPs want these companies to pay them; in the meantime, we are the hostages. There is no legal barrier to stop them at this point. It's in the news and discussed in numerous forums and tech sites on a daily basis (I subscribe to several).
What I am certain of is that 2.5 weeks ago, the LTE network was a LOT more reliable than it is now, and I'm starting to regret my decision to use LTE for a mobile data solution.
Worst day yet...
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. x.x.x.x 0.0% 67 0.8 1.1 0.4 3.0 0.2
2. 66.174.12.241 19.4% 67 39.7 184.4 26.3 1400. 253.4
3. 69.83.28.210 23.9% 67 45.4 188.1 25.3 1332. 250.8
4. 249.sub-69-83-28.myvzw.com 41.8% 67 39.9 156.8 19.2 726.8 217.0
5. 17.sub-69-83-28.myvzw.com 38.8% 67 33.6 153.7 25.1 719.2 205.2
6. 69.83.28.170 38.8% 67 47.5 187.6 25.0 734.8 218.7
7. ???
8. ???
9. ???
10. 4.59.144.25 35.8% 67 37.1 210.1 28.9 1717. 324.5
11. 4.69.149.146 31.8% 66 52.2 220.1 26.4 1802. 312.0
12. 206.111.0.65.ptr.us.xo.net 47.7% 65 43.4 226.7 31.3 1742. 378.9
13. ???
14. ae0d0.mcr1.columbus-oh.us.xo.net 54.7% 64 69.4 118.6 48.4 747.3 150.8
15. 207.238.252.102 20.3% 64 53.9 279.2 41.0 1535. 339.4
Hahaha... 4 bars today and VZW's network is dropping more than half of my packets.
"The BEST RELIABILITY
Only Verizon offers America's most reliable 4G LTE network โ giving you the ability to do more:
Watch movies and TV without delay [cough]
Enjoy music without awkward pauses
Seamlessly play multi-player games [I can't even use google.com. Multiplayer games are out of the question).
That means you can experience your work and entertainment the way they were meant to be."
What a joke. Does anyone know where I can start a technical support ticket online? The support section of the site seems to contain no links. If I do it by phone, I can't provide any useful evidence of the problem. They'll just waste my time with questions about my device and ask me to delete half my settings to no end.
SOLUTION/UPDATE: Things have been A LOT better lately. I had to go through a couple support calls. The solution was to reset the network settings on my phone and have VZW support "reactivate and also sync with network" from their end. This made an IMMEDIATE difference. I should add that I requested to speak to 2nd tier support immediately, that this was not an issue with my device, and that I had traceroute information that proved the problem wasn't on the device. Tier one elevated my call within a few minutes. After a few days, it went back to being poor again. So I reset my phone network settings again, and this time the service stayed very good. I haven't had a problem since.
What had actually happened is that these network resets altered the the VZW network devices my phone was being routed through. I could see all the switches and routers changing each time the network was reset. So my phone truly was being sent through a new and different path through the VZW network to get to the internet. That is what made the difference. They took me out of a clogged up route.
I hope this helps out someone else, if you've had good service and suddenly it has gotten poor.
Would the clogged up route explain double data usage for the past 2 months? 2 New phones, nothing else has changed as far as usage. we have no WiFi. but used to only use around 19/month. now it's 20+.....help before I left this service and plan go. along with my credit bc I refuse to pay another $300 phone bill
Pardon my error. our old plan was 8-10, now it goes up to 20+
Redhead14, that's a different sort of a problem. 20+ gigabytes per month is nuts. I only use around 8 a month (across two phones) and that's because I tether my laptop through the iPhone during the day. The only way you could be burning up that much bandwidth is if someone is streaming video for hours a day. Maybe the government is spying on you? Just kidding (sort of).
I know. In December, I had my hotspot on and the kids had 4 tablets going for a few days, uploading everything... still only used 12 max. But every since I got the HTC one it says that I use all the data. I won't lie, but maybe 2-3 nights a month, I will download some videos. But that's it. Whereas before, I just viewed them on the kindle via my phones hotspot. What gives? My husband has a iPhone 5c and hardly uses any....any clue? I have everything turned off (I think). And if the government is spying I wish they would tap into my bank account and have some sympathy......and make a deposit
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