Throttling of unlimited 4g
schadenfroh
Enthusiast - Level 2

So, as many of you likely know, Verizon will start throttling top 5% LTE data users in October that have unlimited plans:

Starting October 1, Verizon Will Include Unlimited 4G LTE Customers in “Network Optimization” | Droi...

While I applaud the marketing staff's efforts to deny that slowing the speed of LTE customers is throttling, and that the lawyers have made a very loose interpretation of what is considered "reasonable network management" to dodge FCC Block C spectrum rules (reasonable would be slowing down the folks that are, at the time of tower congestion, using the most bandwidth, rather than punishing top 5% unlimited data users who may not be using much bandwidth at the time of congestion, but have done so in the past during said billing cycle) , I figure I should prepare for the worst, since I do enjoy watching HD Netflix while traveling.

Is there anyway to sign a new 2-year contract with Verizon such that my unlimited data plan will not get throttled?  I don't want a new phone or upgrade, just a contract to ensure price stability, current plan, and no throttling.

Given I live in DC, there is plenty of congestion and I'm likely in the top 1% of data users given I push upwards of 40gb a month watching netflix (no TV, so phone gets it).

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B33
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With the election I kind of have to agree on, Tidbits we see an Ad every 5 to 10 sec. on ever channel you go too Smiley Sad  well except for the premiums Smiley Happy there you may see something else you know sports and such..

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M9
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I have heard that this throttling doesn't apply to XLTE devices. If true, 1 could avoid it by buying at full price an XLTE device. I can vouch for the speed. I was attempting to download Tom Toms USA maps on my HTC one max in Asheville NC (an XLTE city) while eating in an Italian restaurant on WI-FI. It's a 2.5 gig download. After an hour I had 250 MB . I thought well their WI-FI sucks. I tried a McDonald's & a KFC, no dice even slower. I just gave up & started my drive home. As soon as I drove out of range of WI-Fi it switched to downloading over XLTE. In 5 minutes it had the entire 2.5 gigs ))).

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B33
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Yea.!  well if it happens I guess it happens all you can do is say O well  and go on, I use Wi-Fi through Cox Comm. and the plan I got my Computer and I use for my Wi-Fi  blows the Doors off of the 4G here were I live I have the preferred plan and I'm seeing Down load speeds around 60 to 65 M.B.P.S  Upload ranges from 5 to 20 M.B.P.S  when I was on the Premium plan my Download speeds were reaching around 105 M.B.P.S on my Computer on my phone they got up to here..  I removed the S.S. but here is the results of the Test

84.55Mbps  Down Load

13.82Mbps  Upload

Ping 54 ms

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M9
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XLTE Is faster than any public WI-FI I have ever used. Waaaay faster, but more importantly, if what I have heard is true, it is not gonna be subject to the upcoming throttling. I highly recommend it. Not that I think the FCC is gonna allow this )))).

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M9
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My HTC one max is my WI-FI. I travel at my job & when I'm not working I travel in a 5th wheel RV. I have a cabin on the blue ridge parkway where there is no home internet except for my hotspot.

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B33
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With public Wi-Fi I agree, With my Home Wi-Fi I was amazed by the speeds I was getting with Cox's Premium and now with there preferred,  on there premium plan I was hitting speeds up to 100 Mbps Download.. Now the Speeds are around 60 to 65 Mbps,  On one occasion I was running a Quadrant Standard Test on my one m8 and it was the fastest test I had ever seen on any Smartphone I've owned the CPU put out a reading of 25182..

M9
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Yea, the M8 is fast. I thought about waiting for the M8 version of the max, but my bottleneck has always been network speed, not the proc.

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B33
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rcschnoor
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I notice the article you have linked makes some BIG mis-statements OR some serious assumptions which could mislead some about what the true statistics are.

For example,

"Take for example, a MORE Everything plan with 10GB of data. Clearly, if someone has a 10GB MORE Everything plan, they are using heavy amounts of data, maybe a lot more than an unlimited data user. But that’s the thing – Verizon isn’t throttling them or lessening their experience to help out other customers. Even if that MORE Everything plan is using more than 4.7GB of data per month, which is considered in the top 5% of data users, because they are on a tiered data plan, they are not throttled."

This is a VERY misleading statement, one which the author either did not think very much about OR is purposefully trying to deceive people into believing something which may not be true.

It is NOT CLEAR if someone has a 10 GB More Everything plan that they are using heavy amounts of data. Yes, if someone has a SINGLE line on a More Everything plan, they are most likely using heavy amounts of data, BUT if someone has a 10 GB More Everything plan with 4 lines on it, that is simply an average of 2.5 GB per line. This is at best misleading.

B33
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Well RC that is something you'd have to take up with Kellex I just seen it" & put it on here.. for members of the Forum  to read..  In the End it's  Either going to go Verizon's Way or the F.C.C's Way I guess we'll all know soon.!

But the Weekend is Here so Have a Good Weekend.!  b

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B33 wrote:

Well RC that is something you'd have to take up with Kellex I just seen it" & put it on here.. for members of the Forum  to read..  In the End it's  Either going to go Verizon's Way or the F.C.C's Way I guess we'll all know soon.!

But the Weekend is Here so Have a Good Weekend.!  b

It's going to be Verizon's way because if Verizon can't throttle unlimited data customers they simply won't have ANY unlimited data customers. You can quote me on that.

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rcschnoor
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That was not meant in any way to be negative towards you B33, simply pointing out some interesting wording in the article.

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B33
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Was interesting wasn't it.. I'll  D.M. the rest I want to tell ya.. b

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The funny part is if the rule was not able to throttle 4G when the spectrum was obtained what changed that now makes it they can throttle it now?

They still have the spectrum (Verizon)?

Even at 25% or 35% or even more this constant statement of Verizon will simply drop unlimited out right is totally inaccurate.

They risk to lose millions of customers. They risk lawsuits and even though Class Actions are not allowed per ruling of the US Supreme Court, the ruling states in CERTAIN cases. They are still allowed.

The FCC and those certain cases; most likely will cause Verizon a heap of hurt and loss of revenue.

Of which like the fee to pay your invoice by credit card was quickly abandoned. So will the throttling or loss of it.

Verizon can as has been said do what they wish, but will they? I highly doubt it.

And "B" have a great weekend!

Ann154
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I believe the AWS frequency isn't subject to the FCC ruling for the 700 MHz Block C frequency. They can throttle that frequency all they want.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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Ah ha, thank you for telling me.Smiley Happy

LRVassar
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That may not be true, according to a spokesman for the FCC. Verizon and the FCC are actually in a power struggle right now.

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Tidbits
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LucasV wrote:

That may not be true, according to a spokesman for the FCC. Verizon and the FCC are actually in a power struggle right now.

They can...  Then T-Mobile plans wouldn't be able to have throttling if it was not possible.

AWS = 1700/2100

Block C 700

they have no relation to each other.

LRVassar
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Tidbits

Are you implying that the FCC Chairman has no idea what he's talking about?

Verizon Responds to Getting Called Out by FCC About Throttling LTE Unlimited Data | Android Forums a...

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Tidbits
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Click bait... They are saying what a majority want to hear.

Elections are coming. Someone is marketing themselves to be known. Happens every election from the FCC and nothing has really happen has it?

T-Mobile uses AWS correct? Yes for 4G(in most areas HSPA) and LTE(they are taking away 4G spectrum and replacing AWS with 1900). Now do they throttle? Yes they do even their unlimited no throttle plan(same network optimization rules a Verizon apply). So WHY fan T-Mobile throttle AWS spectrum and Verizon can't? Block C rules only affects Block C. If it did affect other spectrum then why doesn't it affect Verizons 1xx, and 3G data?

Tidbits
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Also to top it off... Network optimization is OK if people read block C IN FULL and not cherry pick out of context like the article does. The FCC are the ones who drew up the rules...

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