Nexus 5

bwk5150
Enthusiast - Level 3

Rumors are the Nexus 5 will be out soon.  I would REAAALLLLLLY LIKE to hear Verizon finally carry the phone.  I love the pure Google experience and can't understand why Verizon refuses to carry it.  So Verizon I want an answer why do you seem to not care about your customers desires?????  I'm personally sick of the generic answers I get when I call. Anyone had an better luck?

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rebretz
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I use Verizon as I have no choice

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BGGaynor82
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Unfortunately, I believe Verizon will NEVER have a Nexus device again, for the reasons mentioned by other commenters. Verizon is notrious for desiring to maintain iron-fisted control over the devices connected to their network, under the guise of "security" and "user experience".

Even more unfortunately, I'd guess conservatively that 9/10 Verizon customers have no idea what the Nexus devices are, or why they might want them as opposed to other devices. Power Users like ourselves are NOT the common denominator, and NOT Verizon's key demographic.

It simply won't happen. Verizon bungled and mishandled the Galaxy Nexus, and will never have another Nexus device on its network.

This is why I am 99% decided at this point that I will be leaving Verizon Wireless as soon as possible once my contract expires this December. Good riddance, I say.

bwk5150
Enthusiast - Level 3

I think you hit the nail on the head.  I struggle do to Verizon having the best network in my area. I'm hoping AT&T will make it better so I can switch.  I agree most people dont know what the Nexus program is and don't care.  I have a family plan with 7 lines and I'm thinking the same as you about switching Verizon will through bloatware all day on your phone but won't let google update a phone.  It is truly sad.

commonsense101
Specialist - Level 2

qualcomm, how does it work?

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mattjd28
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I am with you BGGaynor82...I have been a Verizon customer for over 10 years and I have had it with their closed mentality towards offering some of the best phones and taken soooo long to release hardware on their network, never mind the update issues and bloatware. By the way, is not the SUPERIOR network any longer.  Both T-Mobile and AT&T LTE is faster and more reliable.  Granted if you are in rural locations where you need that 700mhz frequency they have on their network to reach you, then you have little choice, though that is not going to get you LTE.   If you live in metropolitan areas you will be able to have very good LTE coverage with AT&T and T-Mobile now or very soon.  I will be leaving Verizon when the Nexus 5 is out.  If they want to tie themselves to apple, then go ahead, since the iphone is another inferior technology, and that is why apple is struggling to keep up...the 5s will finally have quad core, give me a break.  Another closed technology which suffers the ultimate fate of floundering to the competition.  in over 10 years I have not seen an increase in my signal strength where I live from Verizon.  I know, by looking at opensignal.com that T-Mobile has added 3 towers close by recently and verizon has not added any in 10 years, so it is a much easier decision for me now....You should find out from opensignal if you do have coverage for the other Wireless providers.

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bwk5150
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Well said Matt actually the new iphone is still a dual-core.  Did you notice they tried to win on specs this year haha.  Thanks for that website I'm going to check to see if I can get rid of verizon.

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soccerburn55
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I think that we will be able to get a Nexus on Verizon next year. The reason Nexus doesn't work well if because of the CDMA radio they have to put in there to handle voice and sms. But, when Verizon launches their VoLTE you will only have to put an LTE chip with the correct bands. Just like with the new Nexus 7 tablet (1 tablet, 3 different carrier options). Because of the deal they signed with the US government about the C block of spectrum they bought for their LTE network they have no choice in the matte,r it has to by law be completely open. So that means that when you get a phone and it has support for their LTE bands (bands 13 right now and later this year with the AWS bands band 4) you will be able to put in a SIM and it will work and they can not stop you from doing that. But, they have to flip the switch on the VoLTE. So when the flip the switch we will be able to do what AT&T and T-moble customers have been doing for a while buy an unlocked Nexus and plug in your SIM and you are good to go.

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creator
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actually The nexus 5 will be on sprint which is CDMA. it's because VZW felt it necessary to mess with pure android after being told by google not to touch it when they had the galaxy nexus.

Ann154
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creator wrote:

actually The nexus 5 will be on sprint which is CDMA. it's because VZW felt it necessary to mess with pure android after being told by google not to touch it when they had the galaxy nexus.

I will believe when I see it.  Until then it is all rumors.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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creator
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Like you said it is all rumor but this could be good news if true

Carriers

Android head Sundar Pichai left the door open for a Nexus smartphone with the same Qualcomm multi-mode carrier support as the new Nexus 7. And thankfully, rumors suggest that Google may be including this type of support with the Nexus 5.

If true, it could mean that the Nexus 5 will be available for AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon, just like the Nexus 7. And while there is no mention of 4G LTE data speeds but it’s likely if this type of support is on board.

One of the biggest drawbacks to the Nexus 4 was that it was only available on AT&T and T-Mobile and on HSPA+ not 4G LTE.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/08/14/nexus-5-release-date-rumor-roundup/

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Ann154
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The configuration of the Nexus 7 LTE allows for only a connection to the LTE network on Verizon Wireless. It can't connect to the voice or 3G EDVO network used by Verizon Wireless.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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MikeInATL
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It's my opinion that VZW (and Sprint) won't get another Nexus with a CDMA radio after the Galaxy Nexus disaster.  From what I understand, VZW has to sign the radio binaries first and then demands they do their own internal testing.  They won't allow updates to be pushed as soon as they're available from Google.  That's why the VZW Galaxy Nexus was always months behind the GSM model. 

I don't think it's VZW that refuses to carry it, but rather Google giving VZW the middle finger after how they orphaned the Galaxy Nexus.

demmo86rt
Champion - Level 3

What is believed to be the next Nexus has already passed through the FCC with Sprint radios.

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MRW13
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Technical bickering and finger wagging aside, I would love to see more options available from Verizon. 

Verizon and Android should play a little nicer together since they were able to keep each other relevant when Apple was only on AT&T.  I would like to see that long relationship turn into a better experience for us Android fans on Verizon, instead of looking at how green that grass is on the other side.

rebretz
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Good comment. If it wasn't for Android Verizon would never be in the position it is in now. Apple and ATT were ruling the market in 2008/2009. The OG Motorola Droid and Android OS helped turn the tide. Then came the Droid Incredible. One thing I think Verizon fails to realize is the a lot of customers are just waiting for the other carriers to get 4G in their area before jumping ship. I know I am and I have 4 lines and indirectly control 9 others through family. I'm going to take all of them with me as soon as possible. I know a lot of people who are doing the same thing. I chat with them on various forums. Granted their are a lot of people that have cell phones that really have no idea about any of these issues of the difference between the various Android OS but there also a lot of plans controlled by phone geeks. This phone it will be interesting to see how many Galaxy Nexus customers jump ship to the other big 3 as soon as possible.

sorrybrah
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so is everyone ignoring the moto x as a nexus device ?

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21stNow
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The Moto X isn't a Nexus device any more than the GPE Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One are.  In fact, I would say that the GPEs are closer to being Nexus devices, but aren't.

demmo86rt
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The Moto X isn't and was never meant to be a Nexus device.  It's not even running pure Android.

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rebretz
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It's running as close to pure android as a phone on Verizon can get. Barely any VZW bloatware compared to the Droid Ultra

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demmo86rt
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The Moto X and the new Droid line are running nearly identical firmware.  Extra apps does not mean it's not pure Android.

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Mraoul
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The problem is not how close to stock they are. Any deviation from stock makes it considerably harder to update the phone. Not sure if you've actually looked into AOSP and how android is organized, but modifications to the UI are not exactly easy to port (to newer versions of Android, depending on feature). And since the UI is tightly coupled, this increases the manufacturer update cycle. This is further exacerbated by Verizon's archaic update policy. Many, like myself, would rather the phone manufacturers not touch the OS *at all* so we can have a pure google experience that has a potential for faster updates (if it's pure android, the only thing the manufacturer has to do is update the drivers and other hooks, but that's relatively easier)

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