- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
Oh Verizon, how you don't get the true meaning of a Nexus phone. It is stock, and purely stock. This means you shouldn't be allowed to install bloatware on it. Sadly it appears you have. What a shame, you have failed.
Looks like I will be loading a stock rom as soon as I get it, whenever that is since you have failed to give us a date.
- « Previous
-
- 1
- 2
- Next »
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
The other applications you see listed are core out of the box. I do not consider these bloatware as they are tested extensively by Google. They are optimized to run on the device with perfection. Imagine buying a new computer and turn it on with a dos/shell prompt? That isn't ideal. I want to install only the applications I see fit and anything by vzw doesn't fit in my mind.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
gnexus wrote:The other applications you see listed are core out of the box. I do not consider these bloatware as they are tested extensively by Google. They are optimized to run on the device with perfection. Imagine buying a new computer and turn it on with a dos/shell prompt? That isn't ideal. I want to install only the applications I see fit and anything by vzw doesn't fit in my mind.
I do not have a problem with your idea of only installing the applications that you want on your phone.
What about the people that will NEVER use some of the apps which are considered "core", such as Books and Google Earth. These are available on the market. Why not give "those" people the choice to PUT them on their phone. Otherwise, it could just as easily be considered "bloatware".
It seems kind of funny you think an app by Verizon you do not want on your phone should be considered bloatware, but an app by Google I do not want on my phone should not be considered bloatware.
On my DroidX, I have never and doubt I will ever use the app Books, but when the term bloatware comes up, this is NEVER one of the examples, and according to several people, shouldn't even be considered "bloatware", yet I still do not have the choice of removing it.
I am all for being able to remove "bloatware", but let's make it equal opportunity across the board.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
gnexus wrote:The other applications you see listed are core out of the box. I do not consider these bloatware as they are tested extensively by Google. They are optimized to run on the device with perfection. Imagine buying a new computer and turn it on with a dos/shell prompt? That isn't ideal. I want to install only the applications I see fit and anything by vzw doesn't fit in my mind.
Nonsense. Bloatware is software not requested by the user, not what YOU define as 'bloatware'. If there is software there that I didn't download, it's bloatware.
To use your 'logic', a perfectly running 500meg golf game that was 'tested extenstively by Google' would not be bloatware. Please.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
just my opinion.....if it's not part of the OS then it's bloatware. most of it is google bloat and 2 applications are verizon bloat. when people say they don't want bloatware on their phone, i suspect what they really mean is they don't want bloatware, unless google added it. i personally would rather have a phone that is "somewhat" loaded up with useful apps, even if i have to ignore 5-10 of them that i may never use. i have yet to buy an android that didn't have apps on it that i NEVER opened. the nexus would at least have the fewest of these. and again, just my opinion......but i would use those 2 verizon apps, whereas there were many other apps in those pics that i'll never use. i'd rather be able to uninstall some of those if i want. earth, lattitude, google+, google+ messenger, the stock browser....i will never use any of those. how are they different? and (i could be wrong) isn't eart a HUGE app?
again, none of the bloat really bothers me, but if i'm going to be able to remove apps entirely, i want to remove a lot of google's apps.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
Guess what guys? Take this for what it is worth, but the site admin over at androidcentral.com is reporting the delay is due to...one of the two VZW Apps.
Hey Verizon, are you reading this?!?! DON'T INSTALL YOUR CRAPPY APPS ON A STOCK DEVICE!!!
Sorry you may have just lost a customer. I will be glad to wait for the GSM version on T-Mobile.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
Google and Apple make money off the sales of their devices as well of sales of applications in their respective markets. This gives them incentives to update quickly. They also have a limited number of devices to update from and are also dealing with the source code themselves.
Manufacturers on the other hand only make money off the sale of the device. The more popular the better chances for updates. If you notice manufacturers throw out devices every 2-3 months to keep the sales going. Although Android is free. It costs money to employ developers to update devices. HTC and Samsung now are trying to deploy their own stores to bring money in to help supply money which may cause a reduction in the number of devices they deploy per year.
Keep up with the media hype and some of the FUD they spread around. They also the issue with drivers from parts manufacturers I forgot to add.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
@Tidbits
Unfortunately you will not understand what I am about to tell you. Welcome to the media. Fragmentation isn't from the skin or applications installed on the device. It has more to do with the manufacturers picking and choosing what they want to support. It's easier to blame the skins and carrier but if you look at the session of devices and also look at their update model you will see a large pattern. Google follows the Apple when it comes to the model with slight variations. Companies like Samsung for example has to do things differently and the schedules are based on sales. People always point to skins but without really knowing code you would see skins take up less now and are easier to deploy than its predecessors were.
Honesty, you're right, I do NOT know how to program and I certainly don't know for sure how things work inside the carriers or inside of the manufacturers, but I do follow many threads over on XDA and I have been modifying and flashing my phone with WAY better software, hundreds of times over the years, since back in the Windows Mobile 5.0 days. I'll trust the geniuses at XDA before the spew that the carriers or hardware manufacturers throw at you. However, even if what you say above is true, how is my argument still not valid?
The Nexus line of phones was ALWAYS about a pure Android experience FREE of carrier interference--or at least it was. Look at it this way, say Toyota takes the Prius and removes everything that makes it a hybrid and drops a gas guzzler V8 inside it and still calls it a Prius, while this is a extreme example it still applies to what the Nexus name is all about and why people are all bent out of shape over it and the beginning of a "slippery slope".
Google and Apple make money off the sales of their devices as well of sales of applications in their respective markets. This gives them incentives to update quickly. They also have a limited number of devices to update from and are also dealing with the source code themselves.
Manufacturers on the other hand only make money off the sale of the device. The more popular the better chances for updates. If you notice manufacturers throw out devices every 2-3 months to keep the sales going. Although Android is free. It costs money to employ developers to update devices. HTC and Samsung now are trying to deploy their own stores to bring money in to help supply money which may cause a reduction in the number of devices they deploy per year.
Keep up with the media hype and some of the FUD they spread around. They also the issue with drivers from parts manufacturers I forgot to add.
I still don't see how the Nexus is guaranteed timely updates if Verizon has a hand at approvals, does not Verizon still have 50 other phones to support? Are they going to dedicate more people on the Nexus then say the Motorola, Samsung or HTC line of phones? Are they going to stop the development on the phones that came out first and skip right to the Nexus, I serious doubt that, AND--that my friend is the whole reason why Verizon should stay the hell at of the development of the Nexus line of phones. Google has 2 phones to support, since the nixed the N1, I'm pretty sure that Google is more committed to the success of their product line then Verizon is with everything else they have to support.
What about the 18 month upgrade alliance that Google has with the carriers? Verizon might say that we are done supporting a phone in America after 18 months, that Google is supporting everywhere else in the world because they dictate the policy. Again, why is Verizon meddling in Google's affairs?
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
testuser12 wrote:
Honesty, you're right, I do NOT know how to program and I certainly don't know for sure how things work inside the carriers or inside of the manufacturers, but I do follow many threads over on XDA and I have been modifying and flashing my phone with WAY better software, hundreds of times over the years, since back in the Windows Mobile 5.0 days. I'll trust the geniuses at XDA before the spew that the carriers or hardware manufacturers throw at you. However, even if what you say above is true, how is my argument still not valid?
They have no overhead, and MOST of the work is DONE for them. There are very few groups that do things from scratch, and the people that use those roms, or roms based of their work complain about releases on a daily basis. They have only one rule... Don't ask about updates or release dates. Sorry, but bug fixing in most cases is easier, and MOST rom cookers use old modified drivers to bring the new stuff instead of using the new drivers, or writing their own drivers.
The Nexus line of phones was ALWAYS about a pure Android experience FREE of carrier interference--or at least it was. Look at it this way, say Toyota takes the Prius and removes everything that makes it a hybrid and drops a gas guzzler V8 inside it and still calls it a Prius, while this is a extreme example it still applies to what the Nexus name is all about and why people are all bent out of shape over it and the beginning of a "slippery slope".
It's Googles phone, and it's the way they want to do it. Regardless if you like it or not... It's their product, and if you don't like it you can wait for something else or move on. Meego perhaps? WebOS? iOS? WP7? You could always develop your own.
I still don't see how the Nexus is guaranteed timely updates if Verizon has a hand at approvals, does not Verizon still have 50 other phones to support? Are they going to dedicate more people on the Nexus then say the Motorola, Samsung or HTC line of phones? Are they going to stop the development on the phones that came out first and skip right to the Nexus, I serious doubt that, AND--that my friend is the whole reason why Verizon should stay the hell at of the development of the Nexus line of phones. Google has 2 phones to support, since the nixed the N1, I'm pretty sure that Google is more committed to the success of their product line then Verizon is with everything else they have to support.
Difference. Verizon DOES NOT MAKE THE PHONES. Carriers have to WAIT for manufacturers to submit code before they can test it. Samsung for example I like to use didn't submit code for the Continium and so what is Verizon supposed to do? They can tell Samsung to bring the update, but guess what it didn't sell well... What does it
What about the 18 month upgrade alliance that Google has with the carriers? Verizon might say that we are done supporting a phone in America after 18 months, that Google is supporting everywhere else in the world because they dictate the policy. Again, why is Verizon meddling in Google's affairs?
Google has to worry about 1 device being on Verizon. The OS itself will be made to work with Verizon. They do not have to worry about 13 other devices on other networks. They can submit code faster this way, and if you look at Googles update schedule they are SLOWING down. Their plan is 1 major update a year vs. 2-3 a year. It is supposed to start with you guessed it Ice Cream Sandwich. So chances are you will get that 1 major update a in that 18 month period... See where I am going at?
Difference in laws, and difference in technology. It's harder for GSM to lock down their networks. If Europe was CDMA there wouldn't be a difference between here and there. The only major law that helps Europe is that devices have to be unlocked. CDMA is always unlocked to begin with, but the IMEI has to be in the database for it to work on that network.
We could be more like Europe, but honestly I am against VAT whole heartedly >.<
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
@Tidbits
They have no overhead, and MOST of the work is DONE for them. There are very few groups that do things from scratch, and the people that use those roms, or roms based of their work complain about releases on a daily basis. They have only one rule... Don't ask about updates or release dates. Sorry, but bug fixing in most cases is easier, and MOST rom cookers use old modified drivers to bring the new stuff instead of using the new drivers, or writing their own drivers.
Ah yes, then can you explain why it hasn't been released yet, you've said earlier that it wouldn't be weeks or months delays, however you failed to address a post a few above our posts that states that the phone has been delayed SPECIFICALLY because of the 2 program being forced on the phone. Last time I looked andriodcentral didn't have credibility problems, since Verizon or Google failed to comment in the US, but has conflicting reports in the form of advertisements in other countries, I still don't see the validity of your argument, unless you are agreeing with me that Google sold out because of Verizon bullying and if you truly don't want a V8 in your Prius, to simply grab the pentaband version of the Nexus Galaxy FREE of Verizon bloatware and scrutiny.
It's Googles phone, and it's the way they want to do it. Regardless if you like it or not... It's their product, and if you don't like it you can wait for something else or move on. Meego perhaps? WebOS? iOS? WP7? You could always develop your own.
Um, I disagree on that 100% and base that on it's past history. If the international version IS bloatware free and Verizon FORCED them to add the bloatware, it really wasn't Google's choice, it's just another way that Verizon used its monopolistic grubby hands to force a situation and again in the end--Google caved, I hardly called that them doing what they wanted.
Difference. Verizon DOES NOT MAKE THE PHONES. Carriers have to WAIT for manufacturers to submit code before they can test it. Samsung for example I like to use didn't submit code for the Continium and so what is Verizon supposed to do? They can tell Samsung to bring the update, but guess what it didn't sell well... What does it
We aren't talking about non NEXUS phones, we are talking about the pure Android ones, that are no longer pure. Again a V8 in a Prius isn't a hybrid anymore.
Google has to worry about 1 device being on Verizon. The OS itself will be made to work with Verizon. They do not have to worry about 13 other devices on other networks. They can submit code faster this way, and if you look at Googles update schedule they are SLOWING down. Their plan is 1 major update a year vs. 2-3 a year. It is supposed to start with you guessed it Ice Cream Sandwich. So chances are you will get that 1 major update a in that 18 month period... See where I am going at?
Then where is the phone? We all know that it was supposed to be released by now, there's screenshots from retail stores leaked ALL over the internet that stated an original 11/8 release. It's been pushed back already at least 2 times now, no comment from anyone--probably because of being contractually bound. This really isn't helping your argument any, unless you saying we should all just bend over and concede.
I understand that Verizon will "make it work". The question is WHO asked them too? Your right, Verizon doesn't make phones, you know who does? Google and then gives Samsung the blueprints to manufacture them. Let them make the phones, let Verizon give the people a choose to download the bloatware on their own. Maybe even have something that automatically downloads the app after the phone gets activated. Maybe if the phones gets a Google update have the phone state that this will break the following apps and are you sure you want to continue? I'll take exploit patches from Google over backing up my data ANY day of the week--thank you. Is Verizon going to refund my premium text fees when I get a virus from the Google store and rack up a crazy bill? Do you know how to stop/slow down these things? Timely updates from Google, just like Microsoft's patch Tuesday releases. I'd love to see your rebutal on this topic!
Maybe Verizon should change that red and white V logo to a sickle and hammer, at least then we'd know what they stand for, instead of us believing they are doing any of this to "help us". Way to take a free open source project and completely ruin it for everyone in the US at least that tried to make it work up until now.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
Here...
This article sums up my thoughts more eloquently.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-changing-face-of-Google-Nexus-brand_id23898
It has elements that we are both discussing here, and why the US verison of the Nexus will likely be a no go for me now...
It looks like whatever the Nexus line used to be is forever lost, and it's just another Android phone that might get updates slightly sooner then the rest of the mix. Well that and the Motorola line since Google just bought them for patent purposes.
Meh, maybe the FCC will start to pick on Verizon next, like they smacked down AT&T for getting to big for their britches...
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
testuser12 wrote:@Tidbits
Ah yes, then can you explain why it hasn't been released yet, you've said earlier that it wouldn't be weeks or months delays, however you failed to address a post a few above our posts that states that the phone has been delayed SPECIFICALLY because of the 2 program being forced on the phone. Last time I looked andriodcentral didn't have credibility problems, since Verizon or Google failed to comment in the US, but has conflicting reports in the form of advertisements in other countries, I still don't see the validity of your argument, unless you are agreeing with me that Google sold out because of Verizon bullying and if you truly don't want a V8 in your Prius, to simply grab the pentaband version of the Nexus Galaxy FREE of Verizon bloatware and scrutiny.
Explain to me why the GSM version hasn't been released in the US? Seriously you are barking up the wrong tree. Google is being smart about it regardless if you don't like it or not. This is to help force MANUFACTURERS to update their devices better. Verizon to date has NEVER commented on a device until they are ready to release it. So I don't see why they would be different with the GNexus. They did not sell out like you are saying. It's all rumors and Android Central has been wrong more times than they are right. That's why they say "RUMOR". Grab the Pentaband from Europe. For a while we won't see it here in the states. T-Mobile and AT&T are Enquiring their customers to see if they should bring it to the US. If you watch the press release about US releases they said LTE version will come and possibly a HSPA+ version at a later date. That shows that previous sales of the Nexus was subpar that other carriers are wondering if they should carry it or not.
Um, I disagree on that 100% and base that on it's past history. If the international version IS bloatware free and Verizon FORCED them to add the bloatware, it really wasn't Google's choice, it's just another way that Verizon used its monopolistic grubby hands to force a situation and again in the end--Google caved, I hardly called that them doing what they wanted.
INTERNATIONAL version... We are NOT in Europe... You keep thinking that... There's more to the story than you think. I have been in this industry a while and it's win/win for both of them. The outcome is greater than a 2 app concession.
We aren't talking about non NEXUS phones, we are talking about the pure Android ones, that are no longer pure. Again a V8 in a Prius isn't a hybrid anymore.
Google has to worry about 1 device being on Verizon. The OS itself will be made to work with Verizon. They do not have to worry about 13 other devices on other networks. They can submit code faster this way, and if you look at Googles update schedule they are SLOWING down. Their plan is 1 major update a year vs. 2-3 a year. It is supposed to start with you guessed it Ice Cream Sandwich. So chances are you will get that 1 major update a in that 18 month period... See where I am going at?
Then where is the phone? We all know that it was supposed to be released by now, there's screenshots from retail stores leaked ALL over the internet that stated an original 11/8 release. It's been pushed back already at least 2 times now, no comment from anyone--probably because of being contractually bound. This really isn't helping your argument any, unless you saying we should all just bend over and concede.
RUMORS... That's what they are RUMORS... It didn't even past the FCC requirements until AFTER the 11/8 deadline. Stop treating rumors like they are facts.
I understand that Verizon will "make it work". The question is WHO asked them too? Your right, Verizon doesn't make phones, you know who does? Google and then gives Samsung the blueprints to manufacture them. Let them make the phones, let Verizon give the people a choose to download the bloatware on their own. Maybe even have something that automatically downloads the app after the phone gets activated. Maybe if the phones gets a Google update have the phone state that this will break the following apps and are you sure you want to continue? I'll take exploit patches from Google over backing up my data ANY day of the week--thank you. Is Verizon going to refund my premium text fees when I get a virus from the Google store and rack up a crazy bill? Do you know how to stop/slow down these things? Timely updates from Google, just like Microsoft's patch Tuesday releases. I'd love to see your rebutal on this topic!
You still don't get it. It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VERIZON. Like I told you before which you keep ranting about. Samsung and T-Mobile for example. The Vibrant got their 2.2 update, and it took 6 months for Samsung to even submit the code for their updates. Motorola for example didn't submit code for the Cliq for 2.1 until 9 months AFTER they promised it, and their customers waited over a year total to get it as the initial submission was riddled with bugs. If you know anything about the Nexus One... Their FOTA comes from their servers and NOT Verizon/T-Mobile/AT&T servers which is a HUGE difference... There is no approval process through carriers other than to make sure it works on their network.
Maybe Verizon should change that red and white V logo to a sickle and hammer, at least then we'd know what they stand for, instead of us believing they are doing any of this to "help us". Way to take a free open source project and completely ruin it for everyone in the US at least that tried to make it work up until now.
LOL sorry I have to laugh at that one. As I said it's a GOOD thing that Verizon/Google is trying to make it mainstream. In the long run it will mean more sales for Google, and pressure from their manufacturers to make updates more timely. The are shooting the end result not initial results and complaints going around. I completely understand why Google would make some concessions.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
@Tidbits
FYI all Nexus devices had bloatware on it. Nexus One Facebook Twitter AmazonMP3 I forget what else, but there was 2 more. Nexus S Sprint had their own bloatware T-Mobile version still had some bloatware. So just because it's Verizon it's automatically bloatware and Google never put bloatware on their devices... If you ever seen a PURE Android(AOSP) rom there is no Twitter, facebook, AmazonMP3, Google services. That's something you should think about.
This bloat from Google isn't going to weeks or months to perfect to get out, and I believe that Google wouldn't hesitate to drop one if it was causing major delays--can you say the same of Verizon? I still don't see anything on why Verizon is delaying this phone, it's been released EVERYWHERE else but here. Do you understand what a "leak" is, they are usually from employees that disagree with what their company is doing or hiding. Since the rumor mill states that it's because of those two apps and Verizon or Google hasn't come clean, that's enough in my book that it's the apps Verizon has added. No other phone has ICS yet, so why would Verizon be ready to support apps in ICS? This just supports my argument that there will be long delays (not nearly as long as other phones) but long enough because everytime Google releases something Verizon has to react and study because they're control freaks except with Apple.
I notice you also haven't comment on, is Verizon going to reimburse me for virus/malware that costs me money because of these delays? What about the other article I linked to about how Google changed their stance within the US due to pressures from Verizon? You just pick and choose the trivial crap and the important topics get pushed to the side here.
If it was SO important that Verizon MUST add these APPS and that's that, then exceptions SHOULD NOT have been made for Apple. For this and this reason alone your argument isn't valid on why it's acceptable for bloat to be on this phone. You say it's for the customers but I'm thinking a HELL of a lot more people will have iPhones (that would benefit from this software), opposed to the more technical people that will be using the Nexus and SIGNIFICANTLY less of them, yet this is where Verizon decided to takes a stand? It isn't necessary and that's also why the sickle and hammer argument is still valid as well, it's just that Apple has a bigger sickle and hammer then Verizon does.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
testuser12 wrote:@Tidbits
FYI all Nexus devices had bloatware on it. Nexus One Facebook Twitter AmazonMP3 I forget what else, but there was 2 more. Nexus S Sprint had their own bloatware T-Mobile version still had some bloatware. So just because it's Verizon it's automatically bloatware and Google never put bloatware on their devices... If you ever seen a PURE Android(AOSP) rom there is no Twitter, facebook, AmazonMP3, Google services. That's something you should think about.
This bloat from Google isn't going to weeks or months to perfect to get out, and I believe that Google wouldn't hesitate to drop one if it was causing major delays--can you say the same of Verizon? I still don't see anything on why Verizon is delaying this phone, it's been released EVERYWHERE else but here. Do you understand what a "leak" is, they are usually from employees that disagree with what their company is doing or hiding. Since the rumor mill states that it's because of those two apps and Verizon or Google hasn't come clean, that's enough in my book that it's the apps Verizon has added. No other phone has ICS yet, so why would Verizon be ready to support apps in ICS? This just supports my argument that there will be long delays (not nearly as long as other phones) but long enough because everytime Google releases something Verizon has to react and study because they're control freaks except with Apple.
Google has added them, but you are going on speculation Google will drop them if it was causing delays. Who's to say when Google can release something on a said date isn't caused by these apps? This is nothing more than speculation on anyones part. Google may have been able to release ICS 6 months ago for all we know, but opted to take out or put in features. They could already have JB working for all we know. So show me something hard evidence showing that Google will use Verizon servers instead of their own updating the Nexus.
I notice you also haven't comment on, is Verizon going to reimburse me for virus/malware that costs me money because of these delays? What about the other article I linked to about how Google changed their stance within the US due to pressures from Verizon? You just pick and choose the trivial crap and the important topics get pushed to the side here.
Do you know exactly what you are talking about? What article? The one based on opinion, and speculation. Didn't have any hard evidence to back up their claims? Virus and Malware is funny you bring that up. It has NOTHING to do with Google code, and most of it is to use an exploit outside of the the source code. It varies between devices and IS device specific. The update has to come from the manufacturer to repair the exploit and ICS won't fix the problem... It has already been proven countless times.
If it was SO important that Verizon MUST add these APPS and that's that, then exceptions SHOULD NOT have been made for Apple. For this and this reason alone your argument isn't valid on why it's acceptable for bloat to be on this phone. You say it's for the customers but I'm thinking a HELL of a lot more people will have iPhones (that would benefit from this software), opposed to the more technical people that will be using the Nexus and SIGNIFICANTLY less of them, yet this is where Verizon decided to takes a stand? It isn't necessary and that's also why the sickle and hammer argument is still valid as well, it's just that Apple has a bigger sickle and hammer then Verizon does.
Again you forget something... Closed source vs. Open source. Regardless if Google doesn't want said apps they CAN'T stop anyone from doing so as they would VIOLATE their OWN agreement. Also to top it off with the way the Galaxy Nexus is set up as it should be you will be able to REMOVE them with ease and relock your bootloader(unlike the Nexus One).
So show me something hard that Verizon controls every aspect of the device AND isn't based on OPINION and SPECULATION.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
Tidbits wrote:
FYI all Nexus devices had bloatware on it. Nexus One Facebook Twitter AmazonMP3 I forget what else, but there was 2 more. Nexus S Sprint had their own bloatware T-Mobile version still had some bloatware. So just because it's Verizon it's automatically bloatware and Google never put bloatware on their devices... If you ever seen a PURE Android(AOSP) rom there is no Twitter, facebook, AmazonMP3, Google services. That's something you should think about.
if this is true then this entire thread is pointless. i don't know much about nexus and i guess i've always assumed there was no 3rd party apps on any of the nexus devices (since so many posters here go on about a "pure" google device). if there have been, than this one will be no different since none of them have truly been AOSP. as soon as google loads ANY application that is not part of the OS, it has bloatware on it. people can argue what they can and can't live with, but it's pointless as they are now just stating personal preference and opinion...and speculating as to which apps are ok and which ones aren't. this will be a nice device, and will have some bloat....just like the previous nexus devices.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/video-galaxy-nexus-volume-issue-could-be-hardware-related/
- « Previous
-
- 1
- 2
- Next »