Why is bloatware not an issue for some here?

[cmhyson]

If you search around the net you'll see tons of people who hate the bloatware compnies put on their phones, but some people here actully like it? I'm sorry but given I bought the phone I should decide what apps go on it.Bloatware is a huge issue. hideing apps does nothing as it just hides it. its still on the phone regardless.

[demmo86rt]

I'm sure nobody actually "likes" bloatware, some of us have just learned that it is a fact of buying most Android phones from Verizon.

[budone]

I totally agree with Demmo.  I understand why it is there. I also understand I can delete the icon, so I rarely see anything about the app unless I look at my app list. Out of site, out of mind.

I also understand these apps do not use any resources I could access anyways and even though they are open,they are inactive and are not adding to the CPU usage.

[soupcannon]

I disagree when I had my android Skype was always running regardless that I never even used it no such problem with the iPhone

[demmo86rt]

Out of curiosity, how did you "know" that it was running?  If it's because you installed a task killer and it always showed up in the apps list, running isn't really the right term.  Some apps get pre-loaded into RAM so that they load up quicker.  These pre-loaded apps will be removed from the RAM if that space is needed for a user activated app.  This DOES NOT mean they are using CPU cycles, which is what causes battery drain.

[cmhyson]

I don't really care. It's there on MY phone.

[demmo86rt]

If you don't really care, why did you start a thread about it?

[cmhyson]

Again its MY phone I decide what's on it

[mortb]

As demmo86rt said, none of us like bloatware. Verizon is not the only carrier who puts bloatware on their phones. They all do, AT&T, T-mobile, and Sprint. For cell phones, it's a fact of life, so I learned to live with it. I can delete the icons from the screens and I can download apps which will allow me to hide them. I can go into settings and force close them. I live with them. Don't like it, but than again, I don't like having to get up every morning and go to work. That's life.

[Tidbits]

Did you buy the phone outright?  No... Then you don't own your phone until your contract is up, and I would agree with you 100%.

[cmhyson]

I bought the phone. If it were Verizon then it would be locked down even

more.

Kids these days.

[#12]

This bloatware horse was beat to death 3 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago, and lo and behold, HERE IT IS AGAIN!!!!!

It's on all phones, it's not going away, either live with it or get a landline!

Good luck everyone......

[B33]

Agreed: It was on Android devices when they first came out an as long as the phones are sold threw the Carriers it will probably stay..

Remember it's on BB as well: 

[cmhyson]

It's more of a carrier problem then android. One thing in liked about

sprint is they allow you to uninstall it and that's all I really wish

Verizon would do.

[demmo86rt]

Or an *gasp* iPhone.

[B33]

I can Remember Back when Verizon's Flip Phones had Get it Now an VZ Navigator -- Bloatware on them!  and I have the The Verizon Books that Show them. Mine Span all the Way back as far as 2006.. Then i have a Few Alltel in Storage as Well..b33

[CharmingPhlsphr]

It is a mistake to hold that people either like it or hate it. I, personally, do not care that the stuff is on there. People complain that it takes up too much space, but even this is an attempt to pick nits about stupid and irrelevant things. The space that these applications take is minute and many are even just download shortcuts, which take even less memory. More than this, the biggest issue is that you choose to buy the phone in its current state and the purchase is, in a way, an act of conceding to this.

Too many hate bloatware by virtue of the fact that it is bloatware and not by the merit or intrinsic value of the app itself. All in all, the only reasonable argument a person has is that the "bloatware" is offensive to the eyes.

[mortb]

I remember a clam-shell Nokia I got from what is now T-Mobile. Great phone in those days. Guess what? It had what is now known as bloatware.  A game I never played was one, there were a couple of others, but they slip my memory. The point I would like to make is bloatware is nothing new with so-called smartphones. They have been around forever.

[jdrowe]

Honestly, I actually don't mind pre-installed apps.

I actually just made this same point on the Motorola forums:

They have their place.  You can discover new apps by having them pre-installed.  They can help reduce OUR cost as consumers by passing off some of the subsidy to the app developer/publisher.

This practice has been in use for YEARS in the PC market.

The difference being in the PC market, you could uninstall the applications if you decided you did not want them.

For years PCs and Laptops would come pre-installed with AOL, Compuserve, Norton Anti-Virus, MS-Works, all kinds of different stuff.  However you could uninstall it.

This is the practice on Android phones by the carriers I find unacceptable.

Great, Verizon has this deal with Swype to have it pre-installed on phones That's wonderful because I think Swype is a nice product.  Guess what?  I've been a beta swype user on my OG Droid for years, and now can no longer update to the latest versions of Swype because I can't uninstall the pre-bundled version.  So now we'll never get to upgrade until/unless it ever goes to the Play Store with the correct signature.

I prefer built-in Google services over VZ services because I use Google for everything else, and my company uses Google apps, so it just makes my life easier having it all integrated.  I don't need those VZ apps taking up space in my storage or memory "pre-loaded" and Android wasting CPU cycles deciding to kill it off when something else needs the resources.

You want to pre-load apps.  Fine. Preload everything you want.  But let us decide which ones to keep, and which ones to dump.  ESPECIALLY when you preload apps which incur additional monthly costs!

MS made it so you couldn't uninstall IE, look how that turned out for them.  Granted they embedded it into the OS so it's a little different situation, but not by much.  We are buying a product and a service.  Luckily for Verizon, thus far their products and service have been good enough to outweigh the negatives of the bloat.  However it wouldn't take a lot, especially with both Apple and Google talking about entering the game of becoming their own wireless carriers.  I have a  feeling they have gotten tired of having terms being dictated to them as well.

[AZSALUKI]

cmhyson wrote:

If you search around the net you'll see tons of people who hate the bloatware compnies put on their phones, but some people here actully like it? I'm sorry but given I bought the phone I should decide what apps go on it.Bloatware is a huge issue. hideing apps does nothing as it just hides it. its still on the phone regardless.

the answer is in your question. why is it not an issue for some people? because it's simply not an issue for some people. i don't care. they don't bother me. they are just unused icons and i simply don't care. i have about 140 downloaded apps. so what if there's a dozen extra apps that i didn't download? but just so you know, i have no more preloaded apps. there are things you can do if it's THAT important to you.

[HouseofCortez]

This is a blatant lie.  Unlocked devices have no such bloat