I have been patient. Google announced the Jelly Bean update would be pushed out in July. I have waited.... BUT - it is now July 31st and I STILL have not gotten the Jelly Bean 4.1 update! WHY NOT!? I have friends who have the Galaxy Nexus on other carriers, or who have bought them directly from Google and they have had the update for SEVERAL weeks now. WHEN WILL I RECEIVE THE UPDATE?
When Verizon Wireless finishes testing it and the CDMA portion is approved by all the parties involved with it?
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Oh - sorta like they did 4.0.4 which was pretty much never? Tsk Tsk Tsk.... Very disappointing to buy "The Flagship Phone" that will "receive all updates and enhancements before all other Android devices", only to have the carrier screw things up....
So what I'm getting from Ann154 is that Verizon is the one holding up the process, as always. Kind of like how they held up Google Wallet, because they may launch a competing product, maybe sometime in the next 10 years (which Google should have come after them for anti-trust on). Between the data limits and Verizon's refusal to allow phones not loaded down with their crap, I have to wonder if it's worth staying a customer for the first time in 8 years.
Read the other discussions regarding any android update here. The CDMA radios are licensed from Quallcom (spell?) Those portions have to be approved. I believe Verizon Wireless has said in the past that they have rigorous testing procedure for phones and their OS updates. It has been explained before by better writers then myself.
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For example...
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/778348
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Just keep being patient.
To be honest, JB really isn't special, don't listen to the hype.
I have a friend who just got the GSM version with JB...and I must say, I can see a noticeable difference is responsiveness. The two things I am looking forward to when we finally get JB is the Google Now and the Project Butter. Beyond those two items, I could care less.
your wrong jb adds a huge boost in speed very noticeable, also adds some new very polished features
That's your opinion and I have mine. That doesn't make me wrong.
My phone was just as responsive before I loaded JB.
The features, extended info in the notification bar, google now, they are not special to me.
Maybe you're just more easily impressed than I am.
Been using JB since the source was released for GSM preproduction(Google I/O). Butter is nice and it is overall pleasing to the eye. Nothing to cry home about. Difference in speed is actually 1/10 of a second at best. The transitions give an illusion that it is ferociously fast. Google Now is a glorified voice search that we've had since 2.3.0. As pool mentioned 99% of JB is a hype machine. Most of the changes benefit developers than the actual consumer.
Verizon's 'vigorous testing process' is bull. Look at all the ROMs that are out there that use JB source code. The integrate the radios seamlessly and I haven't had any problems with my JB ROM. I think it's funny that people who aren't even professional android devs can get a ROM together a week after the source code is dropped but Verizon's testers spend 6 months testing out an update (RE: 4.0.4). It does get frustrating.
Personally I think it's Verizon's choice to go CDMA that's causing the problem. Since it's easier to write OS' for GSM (since it works on more carries/devices) every update requires modification to work on Verizon's network. So once an update comes out Verizon's "vigorous testing process" is really just a game of chicken to see who will eat the cost of modifying the antenna portion of the update Google, Verizon or Samsung and the loser is us. Personally, I feel that Verizon deciding not to conform to global standards should dictate that they should eat the costs of doing business that way. Since Verizon/Vodafone's US Wireless Division operates at an average of a 28% profit margin, I think they can afford it just fine.
One of the heads of android os engineers at google Jean Baptiste said that there is no difference between the gsm and cdma 4.1 Jelly Bean. They are both identical and the gsm versions have been running them with no problems what so ever. The nexus S, motorola xoom (wifi), gsm Galaxy nexus in europe and the states all have 4.1 running, but verizon drags its feet. I seriously doubt they work on more than one phone at a time for updates with the time frames they seem to put these out at. They seriously need to either work with Google, or hire enough competent tech staff to get these updates out to all their phones. Updates are not some irregular fad that happens infrequently, but are apart of keeping systems in check and running phones well, that keep customers happy than having to come here every time when update comes out and we have to voice our concerns and the importance of said update.
I call major BS that JBQ has said that. There is a difference and he has explained the difference before as well as one of his employees on the project.
FYI the only time they will be the same is when you take out the proprietary bits. I believe that is what JBQ is referring to and people keep taking it out of context.
I said this a while back BEFORE this device came out. The Galaxy Nexus isn't Verizon's flagship device. It's a Google's flagship developers device first and foremost. These devices are sold cheap by Google to entice developers to develop for their platform. They will not stop normal consumers from buying them.
Now before the device came out I said updates are going to take a while. Qualcomm with the way they have CDMA written and licensed if there is ever a problem with the radio it has to go back to Google then Samsung then Qualcomm then Verizon and it has to repeat that process even on Sprint. Everything needs to be signed a different way. This is one of the problems with AOSP. You can't modify those files and if you do your radios won't work right unless you use hacks(See CyanogenMod for more details). GSM is a whole total different animal. Only the libraries can't be touch and everything else is Open. I ranted about the updates before the device even came out. I then realized I shouldn't care. I might as well do it myself which I have done. That's the beauty of Nexus devices. You don't even have to wait for Google(that's where some of the features come from). Google likes them then adds them in the next version including their own work.
I can agree. Just get's frustrating with all the gobbidy-gook that goes on....
Independent developers don't have nearly as much at stake when putting out a buggy build as Verizon does. If things don't work for them, that's ok, if they don't work for Verizon, they have to replace devices... and that costs them money.
All this being said - for me, it's also a matter of principle. Galaxy Nexus is touted as "the flagship". It is supposed to receive all updates first, WHEN MADE AVAILABLE BY GOOGLE. Whether or not ANYONE thinks these updates are significant or not is irrelevant. The biggest appeal with Android is the fact that it's MY device, and I should be able to get / install these updates when I see fit. I do not knock Verizon for service, but this carrier squabbling (Verizon isn't the only one) has got to stop. It flies directly in the face of Android's open-source, user-controlled philosophy. I don't want to have to (removed to comply with VZW Community ToS) my device to keep pace - it shouldn't have to come to that.
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Open source and user-controlled are two completely different things. Open source simply means that the OEMs don't have to pay for the rights to use Android source code and the source code is available for all. This does not include any proprietary additions that manufacturers or carriers include, i.e. manufacturer UI (not applicable here as GNex is vanilla) and CDMA radio software. You don't get the updates when YOU see fit, you get them when the carrier is confident they will work on their network. They are the ones who have to replace devices that don't work and, naturally, they are trying to avoid that.
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