Just a Bunch of April Fools!
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They say in the north April showers bring May flowers well April brings nothing new to the Fascinate as I knew to be expected.
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If you chat with the folks at Samsung, you will find they maintain they are working closely with Verizon to update our Fascinates to Froyo 2.2. - Don't give up! (as his shattered dreams of Froyo rained down on him)
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sandystorm wrote:They say in the north April showers bring May flowers well April brings nothing new to the Fascinate as I knew to be expected.
You say you've given up on the phone being upgraded, because you know it will not be, so you are getting a new phone. Or so you say
Why bother to complain about no upgrade, if you know it itsn't happening? Isn't the (mature) purpose of a complaint that it instigates change? Do you really have nothing better to do than complain about something that (you claim) won't be fixed?
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For anyone interested in filling complains. Please utilize following links. Hopefully, they won't be deleted.
California Attorney General http://ag.ca.gov/contact/compl aint_form.php?cmplt=CL (for other states Google your own state Attorney General and find a link of "File Complain")
FTC https://www.ftccomplaintas sistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.asp x?Lang=en
FCC https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form2000.action?form_type=2000A
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I will not complain or file suit because it is rediculous and you cant win just because sales reps told you that you would get Froyo or Gingerbread. This would get laughed out of court and the Judge would say go eat some Banana Bread Fools.
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magsgundah wrote:
sandystorm wrote:They say in the north April showers bring May flowers well April brings nothing new to the Fascinate as I knew to be expected.
You say you've given up on the phone being upgraded, because you know it will not be, so you are getting a new phone. Or so you say
Why bother to complain about no upgrade, if you know it itsn't happening? Isn't the (mature) purpose of a complaint that it instigates change? Do you really have nothing better to do than complain about something that (you claim) won't be fixed?
I am just trying to stop people from expecting things that will not happen for this phone. They need to be told that Fascinate will never receive Froyo and myself don't care because I am waiting for new Revolution to come out. And as far as nothing better to do well look who commented to me YOU!
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Seriously, you see yourself as some sort of prophet? Oy.
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Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
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TedKord wrote:Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
The problem is with the fascinate itself, it cant handle the new updates without problems so no there will be no Gingerbread or Fryo for the fascinate!
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TedKord wrote:Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
That's why my next smartphone will be a Moto droid of some type... just biding my time until my next upgrade date.....
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spurs21 wrote:
TedKord wrote:Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
That's why my next smartphone will be a Moto droid of some type... just biding my time until my next upgrade date.....
I'm with you on that Spurs21 just waiting for the Revolution or the Droid Bionic but just trying to calm people to give up on Froyo because it will not work properly on Fascinate thats why we dont have it and I like Verizon and dont blame them but I do blame Samsung and will not buy another Samsung product
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sandystorm wrote:
spurs21 wrote:
TedKord wrote:Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
That's why my next smartphone will be a Moto droid of some type... just biding my time until my next upgrade date.....
I'm with you on that Spurs21 just waiting for the Revolution or the Droid Bionic but just trying to calm people to give up on Froyo because it will not work properly on Fascinate thats why we dont have it and I like Verizon and dont blame them but I do blame Samsung and will not buy another Samsung product
aaah, but is working on the fascinate
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mdram4x4 wrote:
sandystorm wrote:
spurs21 wrote:
TedKord wrote:Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
That's why my next smartphone will be a Moto droid of some type... just biding my time until my next upgrade date.....
I'm with you on that Spurs21 just waiting for the Revolution or the Droid Bionic but just trying to calm people to give up on Froyo because it will not work properly on Fascinate thats why we dont have it and I like Verizon and dont blame them but I do blame Samsung and will not buy another Samsung product
aaah, but is working on the fascinate
Look here mdram4x4 what phone do you have? I saw you on The droid Incredible site. I am only here to help others from the pain of waiting for something that is not going to happen and do not wander on other phone sites telling people what to do
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@sandystorm
At this point, I don't even care if Froyo, Gingerbread, or whatever other fattening carb will make it (or not) to Fascinate. I am upset that the company as large as Verizon could care less for the thousands of customers who bought Fascinate base on the false advertisements.
The lessons to all of us...DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY FUTURE UPDATES...BUY THE PHONE ON WHAT IT HAS AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND NOT WHAT IT WILL HAVE "within next two weeks".
Verizon will never learn that lying is bad unless a heavy fines and public humiliation will come up. That is why I personally filed complains with FTC, FCC, BBB, and Attorney General office. I am still trying to locate public TV or Radio station that will make this issue public.
The deceptive sales practice should be terminated immediately and employees of any company found lying to gain sale should be fined. Otherwise, this vicious cycle of lies just to get the sales numbers up will never end.
My position of the Fascinate...if Froyo is not available...Verizon should make a good will gesture and offer Fascinate users either swipe Fascinate for any other phone (at no charge) or simply nullify existing contract. If that won't be done...it's not only current customers that will be upset but also future ones will be lost and in this economy every single customer counts.
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One guy reports that he distributed 600 flyers against Samsung in one day and ready to do another 1,000 in a following weekend. If one single person has so much dedication to a cause, I can believe that he will be able to turn around from Samsung good few hundred customers and there are over 500 people in the group that are activity filling complains. It is only a matter of time before this bubble will burst and it won't be pretty.
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BerryN wrote:
The lessons to all of us...DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY FUTURE UPDATES...BUY THE PHONE ON WHAT IT HAS AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND NOT WHAT IT WILL HAVE "within next two weeks".
Um, this is no lesson learned. This is common-sense.
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magsgundah wrote:
BerryN wrote:
The lessons to all of us...DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY FUTURE UPDATES...BUY THE PHONE ON WHAT IT HAS AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND NOT WHAT IT WILL HAVE "within next two weeks".
Um, this is no lesson learned. This is common-sense.
Amen to that magsgunda you are right and if people did do that they wouldn't and shouldn't complain!
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TedKord wrote:Well, April showers are bringing sprinklings of Gingerbread to Droid X owners. Seriously, if anyone still think Verizon is the holdup in getting Froyo on the Fascinate, get real. Moto and HTC have no trouble getting updates to their Verizon devices. It's Samsung. And, either they didn't want to push out updates to spur sales of new handsets, or they're just plain incompetent.
To be honest, I don't have a clue who is responsible for the holdup. While It's true that Motorola and HTC have pushed out updates on Verizon, the one thing that IS different here is Bing. I am starting to believe that the contractual obligation that Verizon agreed to on the Fascinate/Continuum is more responsible for the delay.
Supposedly, we are supposed to be able to select our default search engine when Froyo is released. From my perspective, that could create delays for Fascinate users in one of two ways. First, I can see Verizon taking time to issue Froyo for a period of time to honor the duration of the contract. (Has the length of the exclusive contract ever been published?) Second, they may need additional time to code, program and test the lockdown of the device to Bing on Froyo until the contract expires. Either way, we wait.
All that being said, this is entirely conjecture on my part. Since Verizon and Samsung aren't talking, we get to fill in the blanks with our theories. Oh well...
PS: Before anyone jumps on me for saying I CAN use Google to search. I am well aware of that. The Voice Search app uses Google and I can add a Google icon for direct searches. But let's be clear: These are work-arounds that most of would prefer to avoid.
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nickjr wrote:
Upgrading to Froyo did not allow me the option of selecting my preferred search engine, Bing still was the default choice w/o any of changing that. You have to d/l the google app and then use as a regular app
Thats why Froyo has not been released to the Fascinate because they cant make it work properly on the phone so it will never be released
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sandystorm wrote:
nickjr wrote:
Upgrading to Froyo did not allow me the option of selecting my preferred search engine, Bing still was the default choice w/o any of changing that. You have to d/l the google app and then use as a regular appThats why Froyo has not been released to the Fascinate because they cant make it work properly on the phone so it will never be released
there are people running froyo on the fascinate, and its working
there are people running it and having problems
it all depends on the version you get
and yes i have a fascinate
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Yes Mad Ram I did notice that you show you have Fascinate
