Verizon store installing Jelly Bean on Galaxy Nexus?

jford32
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I am not good with software and I feel like I'd mess it up because I'm not good with <Deleted>. Would I be able to bring in my galaxy nexus to a verizon store and have them install Jelly Bean onto it?

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jreger
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Unfortunately no, Jelly Bean will not be pushed out Over the Air until later, but if you keep you eye on the Android Blogs or twitter feeds, they will tell you when its on it way.  However, that is if VZW and Google play nice and let Google push it directly to you. 

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wkavan02
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Any Android device bearing the Nexus moniker is supposed to be a Google Experience Device, which means that it has a stock version of Android (i.e. what Google designed Android to be without any skins, bloatware, etc.) and that it gets the latest Android updates ASAP, so long as the hardware is powerful enough to run the latest version.

In the past year or so, however, this formula has become convoluted by the carriers and a little bit by the manufacturers too. This has been evidenced with the delays on the Nexus S update with Sprint, and with the ICS delays on the Galaxy Nexus.

A year ago, you would've been 100% certain that your Nexus device would be getting the newest Android OS as soon as Google deemed fit, but now, any semblance of certainty has been lost in the dank mire of bloatware greed that makes a mid-2000's Dell computer look like an Apple.

Our friend jreger is correct in saying that you won't be able to have Jellybean installed for you in a store by a Verizon employee because you won't need it. It will be VERY easy and, if all goes well, you'll barely have to do a thing when the OTA update gets pushed to your Galaxy Nexus. For your sake, I hope that all goes well and Google is allowed to push Jellybean directly to all Galaxy Nexus owners, regardless of carrier, but knowing how much Verizon likes controlling updates of software to phones on their network, I wouldn't bet on the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus receiving Jellybean in mid-July.

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ERMarshall2
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There is no way Verizon wont meddle with Jelly Bean, force it into endless testing, and causing a delay for the upgrade to reach those of us who were unfortunate enough to have the bad luck of buying this terrible phone

jreger
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You have lost your mind if you think the Galaxy Nexus is a terrible phone?  what in the world do you not like about it?

ERMarshall2
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you MUST work for Samsung, because there is no way you don't know about the design flaws that are causing everyone to report poor reception, data speeds, and battery life.

I live in a building with VZW antaneas on the roof, my 4G speeds are half that of my roommate who has an old droid charge

My battery drains to empty while its plugged into the AC outlet if Im streaming on 4G

The proximity sensor turns the screen on whe its close to my face instead of off

I could go on and on, and Ive had 6 replacements, each of them having the exact same issue (plus other defects as they were all refurbs)

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jreger
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I dont work for samsung, and you can check me out on Google+ and the thousands of others just like me who adore their Galaxy Nexus.

My coverage is horrible at my home, but anywhere else I go I am getting screaming speeds.  Everyone who comes to my home with all the other Android phones experience the same data garbage as I do. 

If you are experiencing reception problems you need a new phone, not a refurb.

As for the battery life.. welcome to 4G  its not new, its with every single 4G phone, thats not a Gnex problem.  why do you think Motorola came out with the Razr Maxx to give you twice the battery life, and they quote that at like 18 hours.. lol

ERMarshall2
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Dont get me wrong ICS is amazing love the OS. But the hardware is severely flawed.  and if VZW would offer the Maxxx Id gladly have taken it in exchange, but they will only give me the old Droid Razr with 16GB of storage (I have a 32GB Nex).  So  there offer is not going to help at all, if anything its a big downgrade.

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jreger
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I'm sorry your experience has been bad, but Im glad mine has been different!

JellyBean is amazing!

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baldypal
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i'm with you jreger! i love my gnexus. 4.0.4 solved any connection issues while on the phone. ERMarshall2, you are not the first person i've heard not pleased with the gnexus, but the others i personally know and dont like it, had different complaints which were all related to ICS User interface.

i'm very skeptical on how soon verizon will OTA Android 4.1. but i cannot wait. it's a nexus phone, give us what we were expecting when we got a nexus phone. FAST OTAs is what we expect!

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ERMarshall2
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Unfortunately the toro (vzw) Galaxy is only a Nexus by name.  It's bootloader comes locked preventing root access and theres no removable storage.  I hope Im wrong, but Im sure we'll be waiting a long time to get jelly bean

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jreger
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this is going to get moderated but I had JellyBean the day after the announcement.  I love it.. I will never go back to the Plain VZW load.

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PJNC284
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uhm...there's no removable storage on any version of the Galaxy Nexus.  The bootloader is also locked on all versions but can be easily unlocked which is the benefit of a nexus device.  Toro has just been added back for AOSP support so that should be good news. 

ERMarshall2
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Thats exactly my point PJNC284, google created the nexus line for developers, they were all unlocked with removable storage and batteries etc until the galaxy nexus.  Its not true to the brands mission.

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PJNC284
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Considering Google chose that path, I'd say it was the mission. Verizon had nothing to do with that choice. The Nexus S didn't have removable storage either (only the original Nexus One had sdcard support).  And it's no secret that google is trying to move away from removable storage (See Nexus 7 tablet) to simplify things.  Good explanation here.

Ann154
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Darn, you beat me to it, PJNC284!

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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ERMarshall2
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I honestly dont believe that.  VZW single handedly brought Android out of obscurity with the Droid line, Im sure Google bent to their will.  I only have to point to the delays in getting the minor update for ICS on VZW as proof.  

Ever see the visualization video of android activations and the spike that happened the day the 1st Droid was released?

http://youtu.be/fqFpq9WXbJo

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PJNC284
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Verizon gimps everything they get excluding the OG Droid.  See Galaxy SIII (locked bootloader and persistent wifi notification), Incredible 4G LTE ($149 and it's not even comparable to a One series device, seriously?), etc.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Galaxy Nexus is the first and last nexus device on Verizon as I'm betting Google isn't too pleased with that debacle.

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ERMarshall2
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I agree with everything you said here

I was under the impression the GSM GNex was unlocked though? correct me if Im wrong. 

and as far as the benefits of removing the SD, it's not Google that I think choose that, its the wireless providers who could charge more for different variations of built in memory and not allow you to large of amounts of storage for a few dollars with a cheap SD card, and the file system excuse is just that, they could easily improve and eliminate each point of that argument.

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PJNC284
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ERMarshall2 wrote:

I agree with everything you said here

I was under the impression the GSM GNex was unlocked though? correct me if Im wrong. 

and as far as the benefits of removing the SD, it's not Google that I think choose that, its the wireless providers who could charge more for different variations of built in memory and not allow you to large of amounts of storage for a few dollars with a cheap SD card, and the file system excuse is just that, they could easily improve and eliminate each point of that argument.

There's two different "unlocked" references.  1) refers to sim unlocks meaning you can use any gsm carrier's sim card in it (this is what unlocked means when purchasing a GSM nexus from the google play store)

2) refers to the bootloader. AFAIK, all of the nexus devices are oem locked but can easily be unlocked with the fastboot oem unlock command using the Android SDK.

As for the sd card,  I'm not putting on my tin foil hat.  If carrier influence played a part, why would Google sell their unlocked devices with no sd card support?  Google implemented Apps2SD in Froyo and that caused lots of issues so it was removed.  Sure it helped with the limited internal app storage of devices but widgets didn't work and just caused poorly coded apps to misbehave even more. Removable and expandable storage are handy but isn't needed for the majority of people and it greatly simplifies things to just have one mass storage area for everything.  Also devices with large internal storage and an sd card are annoying as crap.  Just bought the Galaxy SIII and part of the internal storage is labeled SdCard which causes apps to flip out if they have a backup/restore to sdcard feature.  Backed up data to the sdcard from another device and want to restore?  Nope, that's not gonna work unless you move the content to the internal sdcard.  Some apps have a way to adjust the default storage location but I'm seeing a lot that don't.

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Ann154
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I much prefer dealing with the file system on the Nexus then my Tbolt. It is easier to work with. It doesn't create a new drive or two on the computer. It is also similar to how my two MP3 player connect and sync with the computer.

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