Wrong kind of math....lol.... try again. 
Seems like there were reports of fires almost daily for a few weeks. Then as soon as the second recall was announced and we were told to power down and return the Note 7, all reports of fires stopped. Even though they estimate about have the Note 7's sold are still in use. With that many Note 7's still in use, why no more fires?
My point exactly I saw one report that at least 77% of note 7 was still being used and not a beep about a fire I really think that they jumped the gun on this one.I now have a phone that I did not want I mean I like the edge but it is Not the note 7 but this is what I am going to be stuck with for 2 yrs but i AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.
Mine still works perfectly. No issues. yet
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My point exactly I saw one report that at least 77% of note 7 was still being used and not a beep about a fire I really think that they jumped the gun on this one.I now have a phone that I did not want I mean I like the edge but it is Not the note 7 but this is what I am going to be stuck with for 2 yrs but i AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.
About 60% returned, leaving 1 million out there. Rate of catching fire 1:42000. Number at risk 24. Do you feel lucky?
Wrong kind of math....lol.... try again.
2.5 million sold - 1 million still not returned. 1/2.5 = 0.4 = 40% still out there. 100 - 40 = 60% returned
Over a million Galaxy Note 7 phones still on after recalls - CNET
1 million phones * 1/42,000 estimated chance = 23.8 24 potential fires based on odds.
Samsung halts Galaxy Note 7 sales after battery explosions - LA Times
Let's see your math.
In the US Samsung says 85% of them have been returned.
If there are let's say 10% that could have happened there is a chance that all 10% of them were returned, and the reason why you haven't heard any more about them. Also Samsung if they catch you before you go to the media they force you to sign a NDA and say nothing about it to anyone.
c'mon, that's junior high mathematics. --> Probability!!
Probability number never changed from the total pool. You have 2.5 millions out there.. or 25 out there... the "probability of catching fire" will never change.
To make it simpler for those whom not as familiar with mathematics:
If chances of catching fire = 0.00005%, it sounds pretty safe to me.
What you mentioned about "24 potential fires based on odds."...that sounds too hard-sell!
The odd is 24 out of 1 million!! And out of that 1 million, based on how the mass are treating their phones. Lots of variations!! (Do everyone risk fully charged to 100% all the time? Fast-Charging? Running lots of Apps? Putting the phone at heated area?)
Anyhow, if there is 24 fatal accidents happened everyday among 1 millions drivers in the U.S., will you stop driving or never let your kids to drive?!! .....just curious!
Why being so furious against ppl still favoring their Note7?
So if you were in charge you would allow these things on planes? It is the potential for catastrophic repercussions that is the real reason behind this. I don't want any of these in hospitals, hotels, office buildings, ships, planes -- anywhere a catastrophic end result can occur.
And and the lack of knowing exact cause and inciting event is problematic. Just because it is not answerable doesn't mean you discount it.
But back to the original question on this thread, the fact there is less phones out there, only 15% of original, is the reason you are not hearing any more events.
From a personal liability state, one is crazy to keep using this Phone.
You are pulling odds and ANY person will tell statistics is not accurate when you don't know the constants. You are basing your numbers on what is known. Any person in the industry knows those 104 isn't the real number. We know if you contact Samsung before the media you sign a NDA where you can't talk about it. We don't know how many blew that were sent in. If it was those numbers you say then it would be acceptable figures and natually what happens with batteries. So for Samsung to pull that many because of acceptable numbers isn't what they did. The number is a lot higher but they are not going to disclose the real numbers.
Samsung is the one pulling their products and Samsung is the one forcing you to return your product. Let that sink in for a minute. They have the real numbers and they see it as a liability, and if it was your odds you listed they would have never did a recall the first time around.
thanks. i like your response actually.
regardless of the viewpoint, it's definitely more diplomatic, more concerning, and less offensive like those [Removed]
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Honestly the Note7 is honestlt the best device they made in a long time. It was the first Samsung device i enjoyed having in my hand since the A747(flipphone) i think that was its designation.
The recall happened and i wont sweat bullets. If Samsung does better with their next Note i can't wait to see it.
What i think the problem is they made it too thin and some batteries expand more than others. Those get pinched and you have what we see. They say they don't know, but made a statement they'll let us know soon over we'll let you know as soon as we find out gives moment to pause further my thought is what happened.
Oh all of them if what i believe is happening is true are ticking timebombs. As batteries get older and used there always room for them to expand, and get hot more than they used to. So a lot of these devices might not blow now, but more can blow up 6 months to a year from now.
So people out there just be careful if you want to keep it.
Also that car analogy is terrible. If they are car accidents from the user error then it's not the car and that argument falls apart.
Lets look at the air bag recall. From what i remember there was only 6 cases of airbags deploying out of the millions of units being sold worldwide. Recalled happened. Odds are astronomically smaller correct? The fact Samsung can't reporduce the problem and the fact you don't hear of any more could be due to the fact over 80% of them are in Samsungs hands and if one blows do you think Samsung is going to tell you?
the car analogy is terrible , i definitely know, i said it just to match up with all those silly analogy of others.
nevermind... it's all going like this for a long time in this Note7 forum.
For us concerning Note7 victims, always being lecturing by those [removed] (while most of them didn't even own an Note7) in this forum lately.
We've already been a victim. Stop putting more oils onto the fire...please.
Hilarious.
Well (i remember someone mentioned earlier), this is a "community forum". It is what it is.
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Because the number in use is drastically smaller now.
This is is not unusual in defective and recalled products. The problem is Samsung doesn't know the exact cause, and therefore there is no wat to predict when this will happen. Since the outcome is potentially catastrophic, it makes little sense to bet the farm it will never happen to me. It doesn't happen to you until it does.
I plan to throw mine in my Samsung washing machine and watch the universe implode.
Start a new topic or ask questions in the open forum.
