Re: I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Wildman
Legend

Hopefully you are one to understand that the changing of a hardware main components always leads to conflicting hardware issues.  You are comparing the GSM device to a CDMA device, not only are they changing the main hardware required for network access the two versions use different software configurations to comply with the FCC regulations also which means that the differences in the device exceeded the simple changing of a network card like a desktop pc...

I am not dismissing your concerns but I am pointing out the other sides of the situation that a number of users seem to overlook...

I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Tidbits
Legend

Exactly... They don't figure that stuff in...  I wonder if these people ever tried to use a Realtek Network driver on a Intel Network card...  It isn't happening. 

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Re: I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Pcriz
Newbie

Call me crazy but Im pretty sure Tidbits made the comparison to the GSM

version by stating everyone wanted the CDMA version when the gsm is full of

bugs.. i still have yet to see any weight on these "bad cache" claims as

well.

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I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Tidbits
Legend

Did you thoroughly read my response?  Go back and read it.  I didn't compare the hardware.  I was saying how the European version is out and people were crying left to right about it.  They wanted it released right then and there and didn't care for the bugs.  We can discuss the difference between Motorola and Verizon about the unlocked bootloader.  HTC is the prime example.  When people complained they complained straight to HTC, and not the carrier regardless if they said "It's up to the manufacturer".  Motorola devices I have seen more complaints about it in peer to peer type forums and not actually towards Motorola.

The GSM version has more bugs than the volume bug.  I OWN both versions btw Smiley Happy

There's a lot of weight on it.  You don't have to believe me.  There's a reason why the root community tells you it's best to clear your cache when switching between roms.  It reduces the chances of your device bootlooping, bugs from corrupted cache, and so forth and so on...

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Re: I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Pcriz
Newbie

Dude really, you made the correlation of people complaining they that they

wanted the CDMA version despite the bugs in the GSM version. Here let me

quote you.

" People were CRYING at the fact Europe already had it with flaws in tow.

People kept saying... Release the phone now or I am leaving, suing, and

whatever what not."

Now please tell me what is the point of mentioning the bugs in the GSM

version when talking about people asking for the CDMA version? UNLESS it

was a knock on those people wanting a phone with known bugs. Thus making a

connection from the bugs in the GSM version to the bugs in the CDMA version.

So while you are going "yeah i know right" with wild man I actually stated

that the errors contained in the GSM version were not the same ones in the

CDMA version. So i dont know who you two are referring to in regards to

hardware comparison because i aint me.

Furthermore Im glad to see you have a pulse on the finger of the Android

community and know how many more people from HTC complained than Moto. By

any chance do you have a link or are you one of those guys that just knows

it all on the internet?

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Re: I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Pcriz
Newbie

As far as your cache claims here is another quote by you.

"More than likely you keep reinstalling the bad cache using Google Backup."

Lol google back up reinstalling cache? Do you even know what the device

cache is? First off "google back up" does no such thing.

Then you say thats why they tell you to clear or format the cache before

installing a rom.

Let me help you out, removing the cache gets rid of temp files from the old

frame work that would cause issues with the newer frame work or ROM.

If I NEVER logged into google but continued to flash roms i would have to

wipe every time. Has nothing to do with your google account. Please show me

a link, please.

Bad thing is the average user doesnt know much about the system so they

take you on your word. Stop passing false info.

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I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Tidbits
Legend

want to bet it does?  How much?  please please please.  How do you think it keeps your wifi settings, your carrier settings, as well as other settings which are CACHED?

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Re: I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Pcriz
Newbie

Hah so tell me then since the cache that you clear in say CWM is the same

as your google cache then how do you clear your google cache? Why then

would you need to wipe before loading a new rom when of the information is

the same it will only be loaded from logging into google again.

Like i said dude, youve already back tracked like three times now. Links or

you're just trolling for attention. Again i say links.

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I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Tidbits
Legend

...  it was already explained... YOU TURN IT OFF. When you turn it off it clears the data from Google servers so when you do a factory reset there is nothing to load..........................................

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Re: I really feel betrayed by Verizon and this phone
Wildman
Legend

Pcriz wrote:

So while you are going "yeah i know right" with wild man I actually stated

that the errors contained in the GSM version were not the same ones in the

CDMA version. So i dont know who you two are referring to in regards to

hardware comparison because i aint me.

Furthermore Im glad to see you have a pulse on the finger of the Android

community and know how many more people from HTC complained than Moto. By

any chance do you have a link or are you one of those guys that just knows

it all on the internet?

Ok I see where this is going..  A ONE SIDED CONVERSATION...   my statement was to point out the facts that go into a device in comparison to others and not to start a bickering match...  I have seen so many voice concerns about how one device on one carrier or network compare to the one released by another,

You can have the same device released on one carrier without bugs and the later released the same revised version on the same device and it has issues.  This is because they are not the same devices, just because they look the same does not make them the same, it just that simple.

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