NOTE 3 4.4 KITKAT UPDATE
kebo901
Enthusiast - Level 1

Has anybody received the 4.4 kitkat update yet on their note 3 update? My friend who has a note 3 with tmobile has received it already.

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Tidbits
Legend

They actually released it rather quickly compared to AT&T and T-Mobile.

They probably gave in to public pressure like what you are doing now...

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cherylsigns99
Enthusiast - Level 3

i have the note 3 and i have verizon, and as of yet haven't received the update. hope it is worth waiting for

Tidbits
Legend

I have it on my T-Mobile version, and I am not happy at all with it.  There are some bugs that are present and hope the Verizon version when it does get updated does not have this problem.  Verizon could give up to the pressure everyone is doing and we may not see a fix for them for much longer.  With the way Samsung blocked downgrading I will no longer buy Samsung products especially if they still have Knox...

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AndroidDev
Enthusiast - Level 3

"Verizon could give up to the pressure everyone is doing and we may not see a fix for them for much longer."

Do you think that we are waiting for bug fixes, less bloatware, or new features? Hopefully, we will NOT get exclusive bugs, more bloatware, and/or removed features!
Any OS/app has at least one bug. I really hope that users on the greatest US carrier will get TIMELY Android OS updates, including bug fixes, as far as they get phones with LOCKED bootloader!

Tidbits
Legend

As shown with one of the T-Mobile recent 4.4 updates which there had a completely different version and some of the bugs plaguing the other major carriers and overseas were not on the T-Mobile version.  So the fact remains sometimes waiting IS A GOOD THING.

You won't get timely updates because people like YOU treat as if carriers are the blame for everything for something THEY don't manufacturer.  If you pressured MANUFACTURERS like they do in Europe Manufacturers would hold more cards to pressure carriers to release updates, but people like you guys are too blind to see it...  Learn from Europe...

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AndroidDev
Enthusiast - Level 3

Thanks!

This discussion is about KitKat Update for Verizon Note 3...
1. The manufacturer (Samsung) started pushing out the Android 4.4.2 update back in January with a major "bug" that was fixed later in February.
2. Retail version of Verizon Note 3 has locked bootloader.
3. Google is working on Android 4.4.3 which could be a major bug fix update, while we are still waiting for Android 4.4.2 to be officially released by Verizon.


Therefore,
1. I blame Samsung for the late update and its bugs till February.
2. I blame Verizon for the VERY LATE update and any EXCLUSIVE bugs due to bloatware and/or removed feature(s).
3. I blame Google for the known OS bugs in Android 4.4.2, which should be fixed in the next release.

Comparing carriers in Europe and US is meaningless!

Tidbits
Legend

1.  Like it's been explained by Motorola, Google, Sony, and HTC...  Carriers DO NOT touch any code what-so-ever.  They even explained that if something doesn't pass it comes BACK TO THEM.  Most manufacturers NEVER say they got it back from the carriers to redo it.

2.  Bootloader means NOTHING...  There are other versions around the world that are locked bootloaders as well.  There are devices sold with locked bootloaders in Europe that got updates first...  Sony Xperia, HTC One M7, Motorola G, Motorola X, and do I need to continue?  So exactly what does locked bootloaders have to do with updates?

3.  4.4.3 is being worked on, but it's source code is only intended for Nexus devices.  If you were actually a dev YOU WOULD KNOW THIS, and it requires MORE WORK to get them ready for other devices that are NOT Nexus devices, but of course... You know more than I do.  If given enough time and the bugs are known it could be FIXED by the manufacturer without an incremental release from Google.  Why do you think some bugs don't affect some manufacturers even if it was found in source code?  That all went away when people started crying they were waiting too long for updates.  It's harder to cherry pick fixes.

Comparing carriers I wasn't doing.  I was comparing consumer pressure and how it affects things.  You are just too blind to see it like most believed "techies" do.

AndroidDev
Enthusiast - Level 3

1. Incorrect! Verizon ––and Samsung–– snuck in a few of their own apps (called, Bloatware) in the clean version of Android OS. Carriers DO NOT touch iOS, and so customers can receive updates directly from Apple. Thanks to Apple! Shame on other manufacturers including Samsung!

2. Locked bootloader prevents users from applying custom Kernels and ROMs. So, they depend on the long update cycle by Google, manufacturers, and carriers.

3. You miss the point of my argument! It is all about the lagged updates. We will get the update when a newer version will be available very soon. i.e., we will wait again for the new features and bug fixes in another cycle.

Comparison does not make sense at all! Customers anywhere will behave similarly under the SAME conditions.

Tidbits
Legend

AndroidDev wrote:

1. Incorrect! Verizon ––and Samsung–– snuck in a few of their own apps (called, Bloatware) in the clean version of Android OS. Carriers DO NOT touch iOS, and so customers can receive updates directly from Apple. Thanks to Apple! Shame on other manufacturers including Samsung!

2. Locked bootloader prevents users from applying custom Kernels and ROMs. So, they depend on the long update cycle by Google, manufacturers, and carriers.

3. You miss the point of my argument! It is all about the lagged updates. We will get the update when a newer version will be available very soon. i.e., we will wait again for the new features and bug fixes in another cycle.

Comparison does not make sense at all! Customers anywhere will behave similarly under the SAME conditions.

1.  Wrong.  They give them to the manufacturer in advanced and request the manufacturer to put them in.  Carriers do not put them in themselves.  Google, Sony, Motorola, and HTC have admitted to that fact and wrote about it.  Apple  is a placebo effect.  They withhold the updates until all are ready and pushes it out all at once.  Also they have a beta program which testing is done side by side as they do the code.  Join ADC and you'll see this yourself, but of course... Regular people especially here in the states only see things at face value.

2.  Still nothing to do with updates.  Like I said before Sony, and HTC locks all their bootloaders for all carriers overseas.  Yet they  update their devices just fine. 

3.  You missed the point actually.  AOSP is only written for the Nexus line of devices.  Rom cookers do not write their own code, and only modify code that is given to them.  They are not liable for anything.  If something breaks you are on your own.

You are trying to validate something that has no relation with each other just so you can blame the carrier.  If you actually cared about updates you'd buy the Nexus devices as that's what the code was written for.  Of course your a dev and you should know that.  Of course Europe has PROVEN you wrong with you last statement, and they do see updates long before we do... Think about it. 

AndroidDev
Enthusiast - Level 3

No offense! You think that "Verizon could give up to the pressure everyone is doing and we may not see a fix for them for much longer", while you also claim that "Carriers DO NOT touch any code what-so-ever." Could you tell me then what are we waiting for? bug fixes by Verizon? or they do not touch the code and it is up to Samsung?!

If Verizon has nothing to do with the VERY LATE update, why did Samsung release it for the other carriers in US but not Verizon?!!, and what is the effect of customer pressure in this case?!!!

On the other hand, buying a Nexus device ––or even the Developer Edition, which is unlocked–– is out of scope. I have the retail version and I have the right to get its update. I know that Android 4.4.2 has many bugs, but I can deal with them all. You can forego the update if you wish waiting for the bug fixes or a newer version. However, this may take forever as any update will have its own bugs that might (not) be annoying to you.

Tidbits
Legend

Dude... Now you are gasping for air...

Testing is completely different from coding. I suggest you change your user name and stop trolling.

Good luck I am done feeding you. Change your mindset an get everyone to change theirs if you want to see improvement. Current wy of thinking has proved for the past 6 years it isn't working while in Europe for the past 6 years is working. Go figure.

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AndroidDev
Enthusiast - Level 3

LOL Europe.. Europe.. Europe.. You can think whatever you want.

cynindesign
Contributor - Level 2

I was attempted to click "report abuse", because it IS a form of abuse to say how fun it is to be last in line to most of us who want to be first.....just stupid of you....stay off the list if you can't do better than that.

mrroose
Newbie

It would be nice to get an answer to the question as to when it will be available.

I use my Note 3 for work and I need HCE, which is perhaps why Verizon is so slow

on this. HCE messes up ISIS.

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japetty
Specialist - Level 1

There are 2 works for statements as you made the first word is BULL.  VZW are not the best even thought they are just about ALWAYS LAST.  Features removed, bloatware added and some like the update a few months back very much failed to many S3 owners, which turned their phone into a paper weight for over 2 weeks until you released an update which worked OK.  VZW only offered an exchange for one of your refurbished phone which most customers don't like as they are many times with other peoples problems when they get them.  Everyone wanted to roll back to the previous version of android which was letting everyone use their phone as a phone.  I really don't see how what you say it a true statement.

ajnevares1
Specialist - Level 1

Nailed it...couldn't agree more! That OTA killed my S3 and was left with the option of other people's returns as a replacement...after buying the S3 full price just a few short months prior. Still feel ripped off to this day because my only option was to get yet another device at full price since the S3 took a huge step back in overall performance, even after the "fix".

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mthompson18593
Enthusiast - Level 1

Thank you for the link.  I appreciate it.

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japetty
Specialist - Level 1

I don't need the answers from VZW that don't mean anything to me.  I have been around and know where to find answers to the my questions.  These links you leave don't mean much to me and do more  for you to end up with an upset customer.  You did not say enough to make me want to leave VZW at this time but I am always looking for something better as my needs change.

Ann154
Community Leader
Community Leader

Verizon Wireless hasn't issued it yet. Soon probably though.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

pgrillone
Newbie

or you could just get the m8 and be done with it.

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