Fios and DVD Recorder Help
bevbruce33
Newbie

I just ordered FIOS triple play package.  I am having it installed tomorrow and do not have it yet.  I ordered a standard box for $5.99 a month.  I have a Sony bravia digital LCD TV and I also have a Panasonic DVD/VHS player and recorder.  I've been able to use the Panasonic recorder with the digital TV.  Will I also be able to use it with FIOS?  I didn't buy Verizon's recorder option because what I like to do I can do now on my Panasonic unit -- that is, record TV shows onto a DVD for playback later on any DVD player.

Can you all help me with any experience you've had and advice?  Thanks.

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Keyboards
Master - Level 3

@bevbruce33 wrote:

I just ordered FIOS triple play package.  I am having it installed tomorrow and do not have it yet.  I ordered a standard box for $5.99 a month.  I have a Sony bravia digital LCD TV and I also have a Panasonic DVD/VHS player and recorder.  I've been able to use the Panasonic recorder with the digital TV.  Will I also be able to use it with FIOS?  I didn't buy Verizon's recorder option because what I like to do I can do now on my Panasonic unit -- that is, record TV shows onto a DVD for playback later on any DVD player.

Can you all help me with any experience you've had and advice?  Thanks.


Depends how you want to do it.  If you mean directly off the cable then the only way is if your recorder has a QAM tuner and then you will only be able to record the OTA channels.
You can use the outputs of the STB (composite, S-Video or RF) to record shows, but you won't be able to watch anything different (unless your TV has a QAM tuner and then again you are limited to OTA channels as all others are encrypted).
Also keep in mind that the box you ordered does not give you any HD channels.  You can change your mind at install time as the tech usually has other boxes and can change the order at the time of installation.
EDIT: I am assuming you got an SD box based on the price quoted, however in the NYC area they price the HD (non-DVR) box the same.  If you are in that area then you may be getting an HD capable box (in the future you might want to edit your profile to at least list a geographic area).
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bevbruce33
Newbie

Hi - sorry if I'm new to this all, as I've never had cable TV before and this is a whole new thing for me, so forgive the ignorance.

What I want to be able to do is record on a DVD disk whatever TV show that I am watching on my LCD TV, such as the History Channel, Discovery Channel, or TV Land type channels.  I don't really care about High Definition or recording one channel while watching another.  I just want to record whatever I am watching at the present time of channels included in the basic package. I didn't buy the premium channels package, just the basic package.

Will I be able to do this using my old DVR recorder and the Standard TV box FIOS will install?

Thanks.

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Hubrisnxs
Legend

yes you will as long as it is hooked up right.  the installers don't really hook up those things for special functions, so look at how it's hooked up today, and when the installer gets there, say hey   this is how I have it hooked up and what I can do today is xyz, and after you hook this up will I still be able to do the same or will I have to rehook it back up the way I want it after you leave?  if you can help me out mr installer there might be a big mac in it for you.     

that last sentence is just a joke, but in general yes you can get it to work if you hook it up right, Verizon doesn't support hooking it up like that, but if they leave and it doesn't work then you can refer to the wiring guide verizon uses, and hook it up yourself.

wiring diagrams

http://www22.verizon.com/ResidentialHelp/FiOSTV/Receivers/Wiring%20Diagrams/Wiring%20Diagrams.htm

your specific hook up will probably look like this

Standard VCR cabling for a Motorola 2500 Standard Definition Set-Top Box Image depicting a standard VCR cabling for a Motorola 2500 Set Top Box

 

 

 

ORRRRRRRRR

 

Composite VCR setup for a Motorola 2500 Standard Definition Set-Top Box Composite VCR setup for a Motorola 2500 Set Top Box

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bevbruce33
Newbie

OK - I need a bit more help on this recording thing. 

The DVD Recorder I have is an old model - one side of it is DVD recording and the other side of it is VHS recording.  As it's years old, I'm sure it doesn't have "QAM" tuning.

Specifically, what I want to do is record a TV show or movie from FIOS onto a DVD disk.  I'm thinking the channels I'd be interested in recording to VHS tape or a DVD disk are the History Channel, Discovery Channel, TV Land, etc.  No premium channels.

With the standard triple play package I bought, and the standard SD box, will I be able to record from these stations onto a DVD disk?

If not, what are my options?  Does FIOS' DVR equipment give you the ability to record to a DVD disk (using my old recorder)?  Or can I only record over the air stations like ABC, NBC, etc.?

Is there another type of DVD recorder I need to buy to be able to record these channels from FIO onto a DVD disk?

Thanks.

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Hubrisnxs
Legend

short answer is yes it will.

medium length answer is yes it will as long as you hook it up right.

long answer is found above...

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ekem015
Specialist - Level 1

OK - I need a bit more help on this recording thing. 

 

The DVD Recorder I have is an old model - one side of it is DVD recording and the other side of it is VHS recording.  As it's years old, I'm sure it doesn't have "QAM" tuning.

That isn't a big deal. Even if it did have QAM tuning, it would only be able to record your local channels (ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, PBS, etc.) by itself.

Specifically, what I want to do is record a TV show or movie from FIOS onto a DVD disk.  I'm thinking the channels I'd be interested in recording to VHS tape or a DVD disk are the History Channel, Discovery Channel, TV Land, etc.  No premium channels.

It doesn't matter which channels you want to record. Your DVD recorder, from the sounds of it, does not have any type of digital tuner (most don't), meaning it won't be able to pick up any signal just connected to your wall with cable like it would with another cable provider that leaves chs. 1-99 in analog.

So what you're essentially going to have to do is connect your cable from the wall to the STB (as usual) and then use composite (Red, Yellow, White) or component cables (Green, Blue, Red, Red, White) from your STB to your DVD recorder, and then more composite or component cables from your DVD recorder to your TV.

What you will need to do is set your DVD recorder to record from "line in" or something like that; you will not actually be using the channel numbers on your DVD recorder to tune to a channel. Turning it to "line in" means it will pick up whatever the STB is outputting to your TV.

Then, to view what's actually on the screen of your DVD recorder, you turn your TV to "composite" or "input" or whatever connection you used for that leg.

Then you press record, and your DVD recorder will record whatever your STB is outputting. So if you're changing the channel on your STB, then the DVD will record your channel guide popping up when you change the channel. This means you will need to have your STB tuned to whatever channel you want to record at the time you are recording; it doesn't matter if your TV is actually on to view it or not. 

With the standard triple play package I bought, and the standard SD box, will I be able to record from these stations onto a DVD disk?

Again, the package or the STB you bought has no impact on your ability of your DVD recorder to pickup video output from your STB.

If not, what are my options?  Does FIOS' DVR equipment give you the ability to record to a DVD disk (using my old recorder)?  Or can I only record over the air stations like ABC, NBC, etc.?

Like I said above, your DVD recorder is essentially acting as a TV, picking up a signal from your STB. So it doesn't matter which type of STB you use because every one in the world has to be able to output video; it is indiscriminate whether it outputs to a TV, a VCR, a DVD recorder, or a combination thereof. It is going to output to your DVD whatever it is outputting to your TV, which will include the menu if you hit "menu" or the guide if you hit "guide." Whatever is displayed on your screen. Verizon couldn't stop customers from recording to DVD even if they wanted to; as long as you have video being displayed from a STB onto a TV it is recordable.

I used to have Charter cable, which had Scientific Atlanta boxes that were capable of outputting DVR'd video to a VCR or DVD recorder while playing something else on the screen. But the Verizon Motorola boxes don't have that feature.

Is there another type of DVD recorder I need to buy to be able to record these channels from FIO onto a DVD disk?

 

Thanks.

Quite honestly, if you're just recording shows onto DVD to watch them the same day, and then deleting them (i.e. not storing or archiving the DVDs), then you might be better off just getting a DVR. It has 20x the storage capacity of a DVD and in most cases is "set it and forget it;" it will record seasons of shows and then organize them neatly on your STB itself, so you don't have to go fumbling back and forth with the TV's inputs just to get to watch your recorded DVD.

I used to have a DVD recorder and did what you did, but that was four years ago. In fact, most that I've read on tech sites say that the DVR has mostly killed off the DVD recorder market, which is why you see less and less of them in stores.

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djpondo
Newbie

Sorry for posting on such an old string. But, I'm new to this board, just ordered FIOS and most of my questions have been answered in previous posts. Q: If I lease a second FIOS set-top box for the same TV, can the signal be split - one to the TV and one to my DVD/VHS recorder? Would such a configuration allow me watch one channel on my TV and record some other channel on my DVD/VHS recorder? Thanks.

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GaryDoug
Specialist - Level 1

@djpondo wrote:

Sorry for posting on such an old string. But, I'm new to this board, just ordered FIOS and most of my questions have been answered in previous posts. Q: If I lease a second FIOS set-top box for the same TV, can the signal be split - one to the TV and one to my DVD/VHS recorder? Would such a configuration allow me watch one channel on my TV and record some other channel on my DVD/VHS recorder? Thanks.


Yes, split the coax to connect both Fios boxes.

The only issue you may have is with conflicts with the remote(s). One will operate both boxes if they are both in line of sight. I used to do what you are proposing and I covered the front panel of the one I did not want to control with a VHS box 😉

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GaryDoug
Specialist - Level 1

Ooops. Forgot to mention the obvious.  The two set-top-boxes may cost you more than one HD DVR. ($20 versus $16 in my area). And with the DVR, you could still record on another channel and copy those recordings to the DVD/VHS (low-definition of course).

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