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Can I use my own router with LTE Internet?
MJB87
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Currently I use Exede satellite service at a vacation house.  My Asus router is attached to their modem. I make extensive use of reserved (static) IP addresses, dynamic DNS and port forwarding.  It works well.

I have zero interest in using a Verizon router -- the hardware and software are atrocious.  I have FIOS at my primary residence and turned off the access point features of the ActionTec modem/router. Instead I use another Asus router of my own and have set up a DMZ so I can access it from the WAN.)

If I use LTE Internet service, will I be able to use my own router and just use the modem features of LTE Internet, or worst case, set up a DMZ for my router?

Will I have a unique WAN IP address that I can access via the internet using DDNS?

Will port forwarding work?

These are all deal breakers and I can't seem to find any information on them.

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Re: Can I use my own router with LTE Internet?
mark_jenks
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I currently have the LTE router, and tried to setup my ASUS router behind it without success, even when I set it up as a DMZ to my ASUS.  Right now, I have my wireless router as a lan/wlan bridge, so I can at least use my wireless over theirs, but it is their DHCP server that I am using.  Because of that, I don't get to use any of my router features for the WAN port. (which I have disabled now)

There is something that they do that keeps me from bridging a second router behind it.

I also have a small webserver behind my connection for my weather station, but would also want to use my bandwidth shaping/monitoring to keep my data usage down.

I'll try it again tonight or tomorrow and see if I can get it to work.  But I really would like to do what they used to do with DSL with split-routing.

-Mark

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7e18n1
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> If I use LTE Internet service, will I be able to use my own router and just use the modem

> features of LTE Internet, or worst case, set up a DMZ for my router?

Verizon LTE Internet (Installed) User Guide:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/lte-internet-installed-manual.pdf

    

For what it’s worth, I’m pretty sure “bridge” mode is not an option in the HBR, but you can turn off Wi-Fi and put your Asus on the DMZ. I have my Jetpack USB Tethered to an Asus router configured as such and it works quite well. As you probably know, both devices cannot have the same IP address (or be in the same subnet), you may have to change the Asus router to 192.168.2.1 so it does not conflict with an existing 192.168.1.1 subnet.

> Will I have a unique WAN IP address that I can access via the internet using DDNS?

> Will port forwarding work?

    

According to the user guide, Home Fusion was rebranded LTE Internet (Installed) and the name change does not impact the service in any way. This means it does have a public facing static IP address which is necessary for DDNS registration and port forwarding to function. If you search the posts here you’ll see Home Fusion has a public IP address, so you’re good to go.

MJ > I currently have the LTE router, and tried to setup my ASUS router behind it without

MJ > success, even when I set it up as a DMZ to my ASUS.Right now, I have my wireless router

MJ > as a lan/wlan

    

Are you talking about Home Fusion “LTE Internet (Installed)” with two components referred to as the HBA antenna and HBR router or are you talking about the single component Verizon 4G LTE Broadband Router w/Voice referred to as the BRV?

MJ > There is something that they do that keeps me from bridging a second router behind it.

You are not bridging, it is called Daisy chain routers. The BRV defaults to 192.168.1.1, and so does a modern Asus router. Did you change the Asus IP address to not conflict with the Verizon device?

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mark_jenks
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I had the same network for my LAN and the HF LAN.   How can I change the HF away from 192.168.1.1 & 254.   Changing everything on my network would be a serious hassle.

I did try the DMZ, but it did not work, and that might be the reason why.

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7e18n1
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I suspect the HBA is .1.1 and the HBR is .1.254 and the manual does not suggest a way they can be changed. As for your serious hassle… you’re the one that wants to give everything a custom IP address and that serious hassle is the nature of the beast. Your network layout should be in a Word of Excel file you can manipulate, print, and keep in front of you so you can make the serious hassle less hassle.

Page 125 in the manual, “Dynamic IP Range” – Examine it in your HBR. The IP address you use for the Asus router - the one you put in the HBR DMZ, must be outside of this range. In the manual example: 192.168.1.3 to 192.168.1.16, put the IP address 192.168.1.250 in the DMZ and in the Asus WAN configuration, select Static IP:

IP address 192.168.1.250

Subnet mask 255.255.255.0

Gateway 192.168.1.254

DNS 192.168.1.254

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mark_jenks
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7e18n1 wrote:

As for your serious hassle… you’re the one that wants to give everything a custom IP address and that serious hassle is the nature of the beast. Your network layout should be in a Word of Excel file you can manipulate, print, and keep in front of you so you can make the serious hassle less hassle.

I a network engineer and have a linux server at home that ties my entire house together.   MySql, http, subsonic, asterisk, my weather station, mythtv with multiple frontends, etc.  Just changing the IP on my linux server changes the entire structure of how everything is setup. Even my mysql permissions need to be changed. I also had to change the static IP's of my webcameras so my Zoneminder knows where they are as well as changing the Zoneminder config itself.

So, before you go telling me that I'm doing thinks custom just because I want to, you are mistaken the number of things that can be setup in someone house that is tech savy.

I couldn't find anyway to change the HBA/HBR address, so I bit the bullet and just finished everything this morning after 3 hours worth of work.  And it is working as expected now.

192.168.10.x/24 for the ASUS running TomatoUSB and 192.168.1.50 for a static WAN with a default gateway of 192.168.1.1.  Then in the Verizon, I have wireless turned off, and DMZ set to my ASUS @ 192.168.1.50.   I had to use static there in case the IP address changes with DHCP someday and break everything.

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7e18n1
Sr. Member

Glad to hear you got it working, the OP should be encouraged to hear this.

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