I've been reading through the thread and I can't believe VZ moderators think you save more money by adding devices. Does Verizon really think we're THAT STUPID?? The $40 per device basically eliminate any potential savings and the new plans are MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE! More devices = more data usage! + $40 fee so you actually increase your costs.
I might switch to AT&T just to not give VZ any money. I like Verizon but not if we get no loyalty!
Thanks JenniferH_VZW - your comment further solidified that VZ thinks people are idiots. I'll be sure to not follow @VZWSupport and move my way to another firm not named Verizon. AT&T, Sprint, here we come!
AT&T has basically the same plans. I think the whole basis for family share was the realization that more and more customers had family plans and not every one used their full data allotment. For just two or three lines, yes, family share tends to be more expensive, but when you have more than that, you can start to see some savings, especially if you are paying for a tiered package anyway. You have to recognize that the larger the data bucket, the less you are paying per GB, and this starts to offset the per device charge. Of course, compared to unlimited data, this whole point is moot, but Verizon is no longer offering unlimited data, so that doesn't matter anymore.
AT&T offers pretty much the same pricing but the point is that I'm not paying Verizon - the company I am with right now and have been with for years. Basically, if I'm getting hosed on the deal, why would I give revenue to the company that's hosing me? At least I'm a new customer with AT&T and I know I'm getting hosed BEFORE entering the relationship.
As for your more line theory, it doesn't work. Do you know what the avg household size in the US is? 2.58 based on 2010 Census data. The break-even point is >3 lines so VZ is basically saying that they're going to sc*ew most of US customers.
Unless those customers also have tablets or hotspots, which could easily put them over the break even point, especially considering the access fee for those is less.
And your point of switching makes no sense, AT&T hosed just as many customers as Verizon by changing to these same plans. If you want to actually make a difference, you need to go to a different carrier that still offers unlimited data. Until then, it's just a wash.
9 out of 10 tablets sold are wifi only. http://gigaom.com/2012/03/20/sorry-carriers-9-out-of-10-tablets-sold-are-wi-fi/
Per my previous post, majority of the population will get sc*ewed since only 10% of tablet sales are with data plans.
I guess we should all go out and buy tablets with data to maximize our plans......except that most people use their tablets in wifi areas so we are now paying $10/month more for something we're not going to use. That makes sense.
I think the biggest problem isn't the loss of unlimited data, but that we have to pay the same price to end up in a worse deal. If I were to get the 6GB share data for less for two devices at $50 savings, then I'd have no problem w/ it. But I have to now pay the same price for a worse deal.....hmmm how does that make sense? Instead, they want me to pay $200+ after all the fees for less data?
It makes sense to Verizon as a business because people are doing it. If everybody left in droves like they all say they are, then Verizon would have no choice but to go back to their previous pricing, or go out of business. That's how this economy works, if people continue to pay outrageous prices, you continue to charge them. That's also why this economy is in the toilet because, instead of cutting costs, finding a way to live within their means, people just continue to pay for something when the price keeps going up, then they just ask for more money, which in turn causes companies to raise prices. Until the majority of customers actually take a stand instead of ranting about it on internet forums, prices will continue to go up.
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9 out of 10 tablets sold are wifi only. http://gigaom.com/2012/03/20/sorry-carriers-9-out-of-10-tablets-sold-are-wi-fi/
Per my previous post, majority of the population will get sc*ewed since only 10% of tablet sales are with data plans.
I guess we should all go out and buy tablets with data to maximize our plans......except that most people use their tablets in wifi areas so we are now paying $10/month more for something we're not going to use. That makes sense.
Actually, it would seem to me at least that this fact(9 out of 10 tablets sold are wifi only) would be a BIGGER incentive to go on the Share Everything plan.
When I purchased my 1st iPad, I got the cellular version. After I switched to the Share Everything plan, I decided to upgrade my tablet to an iPad Mini wifi only version. The way I see it, why would I want to pay a $10 monthly fee to access the data when I can just use the included mobile hotspot on my smartphone to access the data? Why increase my bill by another $10/month needlessly? Just pay for the data, skip the access fee AND still be able to use the iPad Mini on my account.
There is no need to add the tablet to your account in order to share the data. So, yes I think it makes sense, at least in my case.
It isn't the hardware, it's the whole business model that stinks for the consumer, is windfall for the carriers. This "access fee" garbage is for the birds. You don't pay an "access fee" when using wi-fi. That's what killed embedded cellular modems in the first place. If the carriers had set it up so you just bought service and then turn anything you have on to just use it, cellular modems would have been cheap and in everything by now, just like wi-fi pretty much is. Attach more devices, consume more data and buy more. That's how it should work.. But the way it is, mooching off someone else's wifi (public or otherwise) is much less financially taxing for the consumer.
I've got a cellular modem in my laptop. DEAD. I've got hotspot capability on my phone. DEAD. All thanks to "per-device access fees". And no proper regulation of the industry by the Feds to look out for the interests of the general public. And Verizon is SUING the FCC for excercising their authority to DO what governments DO. Govern.
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