Verizon's outgoing e-mail server foolishly blocking spam-complaints

[LawrenceC]

Hi Blackbeltmom,

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[Verizon_Support]

Blackbeltmom,

We have closed your private support thread due to no response from you. Feel free to make a new post anytime you need some help.

- Jose_VZ

[atomicgillie]

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@corbulon wrote:

I tried to complain today to a spammer's Internet-providers and, obviously, included the spam itself in my e-mail (as an attachment). To my surprise, outgoing.verizon.net blocked my message telling me, it is "spam"...

Please, debug the problem. Thank you!

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spoof@american express.com

[hmsrs6]

Why does Verizon allow me to RECEIVE phishing emails and spam, but prohibit me from reporting it?  I received a phishing email purporting to be from Paypal.  Paypal's website has the following direction for these scams:

If you believe you've received a phishing email, follow these steps right away:

1. Do not enter any financial or personal information. Do not click on any links or download any attachments within the suspicious email.
2. Forward the entire email to spoof@paypal.com. Do not forward the message as an attachment.
3. Do not alter the subject line. Delete the suspicious email from your email account.

We'll send you an email response to let you know if the email is indeed fraudulent.

Why does Verizon's outgoing e-mail server prevent me from reporting this scam? 

[tns2]

They cannot tell that you are not the spammer.  They allow you to send copies to their spam detector not caught address and the government's.  Perhaps a few others, but not many.

Address to send Verizon suspected spam                spamdetector.notcaught@verizon.net

Address to send Us government suspected spam    spam@uce.gov

[D4Lee]

Corbulon,

In my opinion, you are quite right! I had Verizon flag a message as spam that I was trying to send. It was TEXT ONLY, but in a variety of font sizes, regular and bold print, and font styles. Like you, I had only ONE intended recipient.

Donald

[misterbill99]

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@tns_2 wrote:

They cannot tell that you are not the spammer.  They allow you to send copies to their spam detector not caught address and the government's.  Perhaps a few others, but not many.

Address to send Verizon suspected spam                spamdetector.notcaught@verizon.net

Address to send Us government suspected spam    spam@uce.gov

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That's not going to help.

The issue is that I am trying to report phishing spam (which was caught by Verizon's spam filtering) to the company that is being spoofed. I got email today claiming to be from American Express but it was a phishing scheme. Verizon is not allowing me to forward the email to their designated address -- spoof@americanexpress.com so they can investigate. It seems like they should have a whitelist of  reporting addresses that spam is allowed to be sent to so it can be reported. I hope that other ISP's are more enlightened so at least other reports can get thru.

[tns2]

You can probably zip the email up and send it to American Express if you want.  Verizon and the goverment notify major sites when you send them copies of such phish, so its not really necessary for you to send a copy directly.  Remember its not easy for them to tell that you are not the spammer or Phisherman.

[misterbill99]

It seems like there would be minimal risk in allowing known spam to be sent to abuse and spoof addresses at any domain. It's just stupid to reject attempts to report the criminals who are sending this out.

[misterbill99]

So this is still an issue. I thought it had been fixed and that I could forward to some abuse/spoof addresses but I am unable to forwrard Paypal spoof mail to spoof@paypal.com. How do we get this fixed? it is stupid beyond belief that I am unable to forward phish mail to help the provider identify the criminal.