Any news on whether HP Elite x3 will work on Verizon?

[bourgeoisdude]

Saw that Elite x3 will be released in August but could not find frequency bands/spec sheet. Anyone have that available or know whether it will work on Verizon?

[primortal · Accepted solution]

It's a no go for VZW

Thinking about using the HP Elite x3 on Verizon? Better think again

[bourgeoisdude]

Grrr Well thanks for answering.

[primortal]

bourgeoisdude wrote:

Grrr Well thanks for answering.

I'm strongly thinking of switching to AT&T because of VZW lack of enthusiasm with Windows 10 Mobile and have little hopes if the Surface Phone making it here when released next year.

[Jmthomas1987]

Really thinking that myself at this point, though AT&T has sketchy coverage here in central Nebraska.

Only other hope is MAYBE that HP will release a CDMA version, kind of like the Lumia Icon was, just for VZW.

I wish that phone manufacturers would just put both CDMA and GSM cellular radios in phones now. Finally give the owner the option to use whatever carrier works for them. 

All VZW, AT&T and the rest of the carriers should be is just a conduit, a pipe to connect devices.  They should NOT be in the phone retail business peddling phones locked to their specific networks.  Too much of a monopoly.  That is like GM telling you that you can only put one brand of gas or oil in their cars, when they happen to own the gas pumps and oil distilleries.

In Europe that is how it is.  You can switch carries by just switching SIM cards.  None of this phones locked down due to the radios they use.

[primortal]

The HP Elite x3 has the hardware for working on VZW but for whatever reason HP (and Microsoft 950/950XL) chose not to peruse certification for CDMA.  So they disabled the bands via firmware.

Until VZW goes completely LTE were stuck with device compatibility issues with the networks.

[Jmthomas1987]

It may be a case of HP trying to work a deal with VZW and VZW dragging their heals again, ala Lumia Icon?

I would love to see HP get it third-party certified at the last minute, kick on the bands via firmware update with the Win10 Anniversary update, and tell VZW "Okay, you still want to block us?  Go deal with the FCC rules violations and see how long you keep us out".

It is high time a hardware maker go after VZW for their crummy business practices.

Not hopeful, but it is an option if VZW won't get their collective heads out of the sand.

[primortal]

There's no need for VZW approval.  If HP pays for the certification VZW has to accept the phones as per their agreement with the FCC; I forget the specifics on the agreement.

[LONGSLAIR]

How do I get rid of overlays

[primortal]

Overlays where?

[techman2014]

I am SO MAD about the lack of Windows support from VZW!!!

As a business, I have too much invested in VZW to easily move to another cell network, but I NEED to use Microsoft devices! I was able to get 2 of the Surface 3 devices through the business portal in December 2015 (YAY!!!), but the devices are no longer offered, and I have held on to this Lumia Icon for longer than ANY phone I have EVER had because I don't want to go back to Android and will never buy an iPhone.

The Surface 3 was sold by VZW and has 4G connectivity, but I think it was actually unlocked. I sold one to a guy on another network and he was able to get it running with their SIM... Hmmm... AND the device was not branded by VZW in any way; weird. I looked at the supported bands for the device and well... I forget, but it worked on VZW and others.

I read an article not too long ago that stated that VZW is afraid of, and not wanting to become. a utility cell service and that may be why they strangle-hold whatever grip they have on this device selection thing. They need to understand, VZW users LOVE their network, but we are beginning to HATE their business practices and mass defection could be close for them.

[primortal]

Sadly mass defection is the only way to get upper management to listen.

The oddest is that Microsoft and HP doesn't need VZW approval to allow their devices on their network.  So it leads me to be that the CDMA certification is SO expensive that Microsoft or HP doesn't want to pony up or there some under the table agreement with Microsoft and HP NOT to allow the devices to connect to VZWs network.

I'm waiting for the Elite x3 to be released to see if the 950XL drops in price and if so bye-bye VZW and hello AT&T.  Their coverage is pretty good in the area I frequent the most.  If the Surface Phone makes it to VZW I'll switch back if AT&T give me any problems.

[techman2014]

Well, they have just put this out, HP Spectre X2 | Verizon Wireless ... Definitely a step in the right direction, but Surface devices and 950's and Elite x3's need to be there too. I hope they get this right for US. It's not about them; FOR US! CAN YOU HEAR ME (us) NOW, VZW?

[primortal]

techman2014 wrote:

CAN YOU HEAR ME (us) NOW, VZW?

Even that guy left VZW and went to Sprint