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Microsoft has started rolling out Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 to Lumia devices. With Windows Phone 8.1, Lumia Cyan owners will get several new features, including a third column in the launcher, Wi-Fi Sense, the new Notification and Action center, and โ perhaps most importantly โ Cortana.
On the Lumia-specific front, Lumia Cyan brings an updated camera experience with a newly simplified Nokia Camera interface "with one-tap access to edit and share" your photos. Creative Studio 6 is bringing new filters and image enhancement tools, but it's yet available from the Windows Phone Store.
The new Device Hub in Cyan makes it easier to track your connected accessories. By combining awareness of which devices are connected, when they're connected, and where they're connected (and when and where they loose that connection), Device Hub can tell you exactly where you last left that gadget. It will also offer app recommendations for use with said accessories.
Owners of the Nokia Lumia Icon and Nokia Lumia 1520 will see additional enhancements from Lumia Cyan. Already powerhouses when it comes to camera recording, the two phones are also getting enhanced audio recording with Nokia Rich Recording and Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 sound. Screen Share will be integrated with the two smartphones, so you can, well, share your screen. And the SensorCore SDK Beta will also be integrated, bringing additional motion and location data to apps and accessories.
Lumia Cyan is rolling out starting today around the world, though it may not be immediately available for your device. Microsoft states that it will be "available for all Windows Phone 8 Lumia devices in the coming weeks."
So check it out, give it a download, and let us know what you think of Lumia Cyan!
Source: Lumia Cyan with Windows Phone 8.1 roll-out starts today! | Windows Phone Central
Release by device by carrier as per Nokia, Availability in North America - Nokia <- Keep checking this page to see your device status.
Also check VZW software update page, Advanced Devices - Software Updates | Verizon Wireless
Now we wait for VZW to release it
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Supposedly MS will push cyan out to people running on the dev preview the next few weeks.
http://wmpoweruser.com/lumia-cyan-coming-to-all-developer-preview-devices-within-3-weeks/
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Only to those Carriers that have released the updates.
This does not include Verizon, because they refuse to release the update.
The Update is in Verizon's court to release or not, and Verizon are choosing not to.
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With Nokia now part of MS, there shouldn't be any reason why MS couldn't bypass the carrier certification and offer firmware through the preview program.
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Oh the above testing isn't done overseas from what I remember. Also testing from EU isn't as "strict" as the FCC.
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Tidbits wrote:
iKnowPhones wrote:
Can you provide a link to the FCC having record of any approved update? I donโt think the FCC is any way to confirm whether or not the update is in the carrierโs hands, because it is. Also itโs a known fact that carriers require their approval to release updates for WP and Android devices. They want to test and know what content is being sent over their networks.
I am not going to bother. If people want to do their own legwork that's fine here's one of the places to find some certifications that all cell phones. This is a requirement IF you want to roam in the US. That includes cross cellular companies, including unlocking and using on another carrier.
The below is the the Z1S for T-Mobile(search C6916) and the amount of times it was submitted(means the RIL/HAL/Radio was changed a few times) If things like that happens it needs to get re certified by the FCC. Verizon LTE devices should all be on here due to it having a GSM radio and LTE radio in service unless Verizon doesn't want these devices to roam or be used on other carriers(which then would violate Block C rules). I don't know what internal numbers Nokia uses for the Lumina Icon (929), but it isn't listed as that on here.
Would OET List Exhibits Report be a summary page for a recertification test or similar test? I don't know if I'm looking in the right area of the FCC website.
I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.
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https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/complete_request.cfm
I would think the list above is a better place to start.
Microsoft, HTC, Verizon etc. Are listed. Its all jumbled to me.
Too many codes to figure out
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Tidbits wrote:
Sorry signs don't point to Verizon having it. I will say only thing and one thing only. If you really want to know if a carrier has an update. Find the FCC certification for the update. If there is none... Carriers don't have the update. I have yet to see anyone find the certification.
FYI it will never be under MS nor a carrier. They do not manufacturer the devices. Carriers don't touch code... No manufacturer let alone Microsoft give anyone on the outside proprietary code...
Does the FCC even care about software updates being most likely the firmware will update driver software and not physical mechanics of the radios? If that's the case does FCC certified driver updates Microsoft (or Apple) pushes to WiFi devices being WiFi cards themselves are certified by the FCC?
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As far as Apple and MS. Yes and No. Apple does because everything they do is internal and needs to be submitted. MS doesn't as they are not a manufacturer. They may for the Xbox line but not for Windows. The manufacturer of said parts are the ones that need to get certified while MS works on updates they have parts manufacturers test their drivers and submit to the FCC before release. Linux OTOH doesn't do any of this as they are not above the law, but they can use loopholes that corporations can't use to bypass this requirement.
If nothing related to signal isn't touch then there isn't a recertification needed. So Radio Interface Layers, Hardware Layers, Firmware, or things in that nature which can change the perameters of signal, or SAR then it is required to get recertifications from FCC as well as WiFi, or Bluetooth consortium if either of them were touched.
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Actually MS can now be considered a manufacturer after purchasing Nokia.
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iKnowPhones wrote:
Actually MS can now be considered a manufacturer after purchasing Nokia.
That doesn't include them for HTC, Samsung Windows devices for example. Also it would be submitted under the Nokias name and not Microsofts name.
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Thanks for the info
So are there FCC certifications for AT&T's roll out of WP 8.1 + Cyan?
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Verizon does have the update. I talked with a higher up Verizon representative that responded to my FCC complaint. He confirmed that they have had it, and from the highest level (executive) they do not have a timeframe on when it will be released, or where they are at with internal testing.
AT&T has the update, and has been rolling it out to their devices. Telus and Rogers also have it and have rolled it out to several of their devices.
FCC complaints do get heard, and with enough complaints the FCC could take it further than just sending the complaint on to the company. At the very least, it is a conduit to get a legitimate complaint brought up to the executive level at Verizon.
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I can say "for certain" that Verizon has the update. I was informed directly from Microsoft that it was given to all U. S. Carriers on July 15th, including Verizon. Straight from the horse's mouth. Therefore, it is no longer Microsoft's burden to prove Verizon has it, it's Verizon's burden to prove they don't.
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Seeing how they have a phone out now with 8.1, I think itโs safe to say they have it as well.
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The only Windows Phone on Verizon that is out right now with 8.1 is the HTC One M8 for Windows that was just released. The Nokia Cyan firmware update is only for Lumia phones like the Icon and the 928. It is to update the hardware on the Lumia phone line and is separate from the Windows Phone 8.1 operating system. It is not for non-Lumia phones like the HTC 8X or Samsung ATIV. HTC/Samsung would have to supply the firmware updates and the 8.1 Windows Phone 8.1 update for those phones and I don't see anything to indicate they will.
What is so frustrating is that Verizon launched the Nokia Lumia Icon back in February with promises of the Cyan update and Windows Phone 8.1 during this launch period. Here we are six months later complaining that we don't have the update, and to add insult to injury, watching another model phone being launched with, not only the 8.1 update, but with the update to the 8.1 update. Of course I'm speaking of the aforementioned HTC One M8. That phone does not require the Cyan update because the Cyan update is not made for that device, only the Lumia line (Icon & 928). Verizon received the Cyan firmware update from Microsoft on July 15th, as I confirmed with Microsoft. My question to Verizon is what is taking so long to test and approve this update so Microsoft can push the update out either OTA using Verizon's network, or by some other means?
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I'm going to keep saying this till I'm blue in the face.
Here is what I believe what's going on:
- Microsoft released at the Windows Phone 8.1 + Cyan to VZW back on 7/15. Where Samsung and HTC is, who knows...
- VZW has done their testing and such.
- VZW is now waiting for Microsoft to give it the go ahead.
Now on item 3 above my theory behind this is it's only AT&T that has released Windows Phone 8.1 + Cyan. Sprint, T-Mobile, Cricket, Metro PCS nada. Take a look for yourself, Availability in North America - Nokia every device that is listed as Available has only been on AT&T.
Putting aside VZW for a moment, why hasn't Sprint, T-Mobile, Cricket or Metro PCS release anything as of today?????
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Regarding your point for number 1, there is no Samsung and HTC involvement regarding the update other than working with MS on getting it to work. Basically MS creates and tests the OS on various devices including Nokia, Samsung, HTC, etc. They work with the manufacturers to get the OS up to standard, as we can see with the issues theyโve run into with the HTC 8S not being able to get Update 1 due to hardware issues. Once MS and manufacturer have the OS running right, they send the update to the carriers for final certification before the carrier pushes the update out to their phones. So MS should have already sent two basic versions of 8.1 to Verizon, one with Cyan for their Lumia line and 8.1 without Cyan for Samsung and HTC phones. Verizon has obviously approved 8.1 for the HTC One (M8) phone, but they had a vested interest in approving that update: it was required to sell the phone itโs on. They donโt have the same incentive to release it for the other phones, which is why we havenโt seen it yet. Verizon isnโt waiting on MS to give the go ahead, once MS hands it off to Verizon, itโs in their hands until itโs released. The only reason MS would need to get involved is if the update failed Verizonโs certification process.
As for why Sprint, T-Mobile, and others havenโt released the update, itโs the same reason as Verizon: WP is a low priority so they arenโt going to make a big push for it. If this was an Android update, we would have gotten it by now.
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As for why Sprint, T-Mobile, and others havenโt released the update, itโs the same reason as Verizon: WP is a low priority so they arenโt going to make a big push for it. If this was an Android update, we would have gotten it by now.
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ha ha and if they did as with kitty kat (Android update) the forum will be flooded with windows 8.1/Cyan/etc yada yada yada broke my device, my email does not work, my connection dropped to 3G from 4G and my contacts are gone, Verizon fix this update.
And if you think I am joking there is a windows phone issue now in one of these threads about an update that now disabled something on their windows phone. If I see it again I will post the link.
As I said Verizon gets blamed if they do and then again when they don't update devices.
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Thereโs always the chance an update will โbreakโ something when it needs to support so many devices. Issue here is if Verizon released 8.1 on Samsung phones, the OS version should match what people can get right now in the dev preview program. The only catch is for Lumia owners who are waiting on Cyan. If we could receive the Cyan update through the dev preview program, there would be no reason to bother waiting for Verizon to officially release the update. Anyone using a Samsung or HTC device could get the full version of 8.1 and it would be no different than what Verizon will eventually release. However Lumia owners are the customers who really need to wait for Verizon because we can get the Cyan update through the preview program. Hopefully this changes in the future and any future firmware updates made for the Lumia line are now included as part of the OS update.
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I can tell you anything. It does not make it so.
Even if they are testing (Verizon) and others have it, again they don't have to send it out until and if they want to.
You are not entitled to anything other than access to the cellular and data network. That is the only thing you are entitled to.
that is what you pay for, that's it.
If there is any update and they send it out, if they want to send it out it is a BONUS.
Again just wait. Patience.
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While nothing you are saying is technically wrong, itโs a passive nature like that that companies take advantage of. Iโm being patient with Verizon, but at the same time I have to question what is the hold up? The firmware is done and out on the field in the 930, so why havenโt they released it? Youโre right, they donโt have to release it, they can just sit on it for however long they want. At the same time I donโt have to renew my contract with Verizon. While Iโm not entitled to anything more than the service I pay for, good customer service is something that should always be practiced by a company, regardless if they have to do it or not.

