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Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
JasonSCarter
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Until WP7 has LTE support, Verizon won't be getting any new devices according to an interview with CNET:

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57335807-94/verizons-big-plans-for-4g-next-year/

 

This sucks.  I could care less about LTE right now anyway.  My area won't have it for another year, maybe more.  And the battery life on LTE phones won't really be good until they new processors that are due out late summer 2012 where the processor and LTE radio chip are on the same chip.  Sucks.

 

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Re: Verizon Won't get more WP7 Devices until they have LTE
SickFreak
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Here's the important part of the article: 

 


 

Windows Phone needs LTE, stat

While Android and the iOS are taking off for Verizon, one platform that has stalled at the carrier is Microsoft's Windows Phone operating system. Verizon quietly put out one Windows Phone handset in the market this year, and Walden didn't seem particularly excited to be adding more.

 

For Verizon, the biggest problem with Windows Phone is the lack of support for LTE. Microsoft has said it would add LTE support, but hasn't been specified as to when.

 

"We've communicated to Microsoft that LTE is critical to us," she said. "We need to see a timeline that makes sense if we want to continue to represent them."

 

Given Verizon's LTE focus, it'll be hard to see a handset maker successfully convince Verizon to take a chance on a 3G Windows Phone product.

 

Verizon continues to work with Microsoft on this issue, Walden said, but didn't have anything new to discuss.

 



As I read it.... they're waiting on Microsoft, which may take a while.  And then will hardware need to be built around Microsoft's LTE code?  If so, I'd say we're waiting for at least another year.

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primortal
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Finnaly some good news from  VZW.  Also I think Microsoft cares a lot about battery life and hopefully they can get better life out of LTE.  Hopefully Microsoft can get LTE into Tango and we'll not have to wait till Windows Phone 8.

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chinch
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verizon finally came clean on the obvious. too bad the article is not fully correct. Verizon is dragging it's heels regardless.
LTE is said to be available and ready now or shortly with a WP7.5 Mango update perhaps even "Tango". Nokia was said months ago to be one of the first to do it. The timeline early 2012 after CES plays right into the Nokia Lumia shipping overseas 1st with a localized market (lte, larger screen) for usa.
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2011/10/05/nokia-reported-readying-lte-mango-phone.htm
Of course if this phone goes to at&t (not Verizon LTE) then Verizon truly has put WP7 in a vice grip to gain a stronghold over microsoft just to show it's marketing muscle.

SickFreak wrote:
Here's the important part of the article: 

 


 

Windows Phone needs LTE, stat

While Android and the iOS are taking off for Verizon, one platform that has stalled at the carrier is Microsoft's Windows Phone operating system. Verizon quietly put out one Windows Phone handset in the market this year, and Walden didn't seem particularly excited to be adding more.

 

For Verizon, the biggest problem with Windows Phone is the lack of support for LTE. Microsoft has said it would add LTE support, but hasn't been specified as to when.

 

"We've communicated to Microsoft that LTE is critical to us," she said. "We need to see a timeline that makes sense if we want to continue to represent them."

 

Given Verizon's LTE focus, it'll be hard to see a handset maker successfully convince Verizon to take a chance on a 3G Windows Phone product.

 

Verizon continues to work with Microsoft on this issue, Walden said, but didn't have anything new to discuss.

 



As I read it.... they're waiting on Microsoft, which may take a while.  And then will hardware need to be built around Microsoft's LTE code?  If so, I'd say we're waiting for at least another year.


 

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primortal
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chinch wrote:
verizon finally came clean on the obvious. too bad the article is not fully correct. Verizon is dragging it's heels regardless.
LTE is said to be available and ready now or shortly with a WP7.5 Mango update perhaps even "Tango". Nokia was said months ago to be one of the first to do it. The timeline early 2012 after CES plays right into the Nokia Lumia shipping overseas 1st with a localized market (lte, larger screen) for usa.
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2011/10/05/nokia-reported-readying-lte-mango-phone.htm
Of course if this phone goes to at&t (not Verizon LTE) then Verizon truly has put WP7 in a vice grip to gain a stronghold over microsoft just to show it's marketing muscle.

I've heard about the samething that Nokia has LTE bits available...


Well according to an article on PCMag, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395983,00.asp  VZW is also suppose to announce a Nokia phone as well. The question is if it's still true or not.

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hopmedic
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Since the HTC Radar (TMO) has LTE, this is an invalid argument.  Just like the argument that Xphone is GSM so it can't come to Verizon (see my prior statements that Trophy started as GSM in Europe and Arrive started as 7Pro in Europe).

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hopmedic
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My personal feelings are that with all the complaints of battery life in LTE phones, I don't want one unless LTE can be shut off, ESPECIALLY since LTE is not avaiable where I live or work.

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chinch
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New WP7.5 Mango-ready devices like HTC Radar, Samsung Focus S, HTC Titan and Samsung Focus Flash are 4G  but not "LTE" nor verizon LTE compliant.
No need to spread misinformation to already frustrated Verizon victims (customers).
Right now Verizon LTE support for WP seems well ahead of iPhone and is only waiting on Verizon to say "we want to start selling it". Again CES Nokia is the most likely first crack at such a possible announcement. It ain't happening for holiday season.

hopmedic wrote:

Since the HTC Radar (TMO) has LTE, this is an invalid argument.  Just like the argument that Xphone is GSM so it can't come to Verizon (see my prior statements that Trophy started as GSM in Europe and Arrive started as 7Pro in Europe).


 

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haysouse1
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OP, you can still get the Trophy if you don't care for LTE.

 

I think it's probably due to consumer requests, I've seen other posters here saying Verizon has polled them asking about what they're waiting for.  They probably decided that a 3G phone won't sell well, or that 3G is fully covered by current 3G phones.  The Lumia doesn't really stand out that much from the Trophy, and the market might not be enough to support both.

 

LTE has been out for a while now, requiring it for a smartphone is almost like requiring touch screens heh.

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DTrumpower
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Maybe Verizon should stop issuing ultimatums and concentrate on fixing their LTE network first.  It's been down since around noon today, and apparently there is a bug that will not let the phones drop down to 3G (they're working on that too, apparently).

 

Nice job, fellas!  :smileymad:

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