Where is the new Microsoft Lumia 950 XL? Where are you hiding it? L
lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

Where is the new Microsoft Lumia 950 XL?  Where are you hiding it?    L

ATT / T-Mobile both confirmed with me today that they are selling pretty much the world's best phone.  Hello - Liquid Cooling?

Integrates with my surface 3 pro and my windows devices, AND my xbox.

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winphonewin
Newbie

I will be leaving Verizon due to their inability to support Windows phones. If Verizon does not want to carry Windows phone and it is apparent with their lineup of phones. You can also see other major carriers and the available phones. It is apparent I need a different carrier to meet my needs. Common sense just tells you what is right and what is wrong here.

You can go back and forth on who is to blame, but I am tired of being at the mercy of the carrier and get what they want me to have. I am the paying customer and I should be able to have options and be able to decide when I want something and when I don't.

Long live freedom of choice!

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lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

winphonewin,

very good post!  inspirational! 

L

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IamMK
Newbie

As a long term Verizon customer who also carries 9 devices on my plan, I am REALLY not happy about the way Verizon and Microsoft are unable to work together on the Windows platform.  As a consumer who uses a Surface Tablet, used to carry Nokia, and now am using a HTC One with Windows on it; I want to start looking at upgrades.  Verizon doesn't seem to be able to meet this with a high end device.  I'm not interested in the lower quality handhelds for me, yes, for my kids, sure; but I want to benefit from all the new features.  Guess it will be time to go to AT&T for a couple of my lines, which really sucks; but I feel Verizon is to iPhone and Android happy.  I recall two years ago, Vz was onboard a 100%.  I was so happy.

Come on Vz, what's the deal?

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lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

IamMK,

Thank you for being one of the few people who recognizes it takes TWO to make an agreement work. 

I may not know the specifics of this business agreement, but we all know it is the carrier that can win over Apple, or an Android device, or a Microsoft deal.  We're talking about 1 chip difference here, it isn't that hard people to install 1 electronic chip and to test it on a carrier!!  I'm sure I'll be getting comments on the specifics of how an integration works with Verizon.  Hey - wouldn't it be nice if Verizon actually responded with specifics on how, and then we showed this post to Microsoft and had them make a comment, I'll buy lunch for both representatives.  Hamburgers?  Pizza? 

So yes, I'm still unhappy that Verizon has not gone to lunch with Microsoft on this yet.

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Geebox
Contributor - Level 3

Because this has been a topic of conversation on these post: Blaming of Verizon or Microsoft concerning the reasons for disabling the CDMA bands on the Lumia 950(XL). The comments after the articles are also interesting.

Surur of WMpoweruser puts it Microsoft. The commenters disagree: http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-shares-blame-for-the-lumia-950-verizon-issue/?utm_source=feedburner...

Winbeta puts it back on Verizon:http://www.winbeta.org/news/verizon-reported-blocking-network-access-lumia-950-950xl

You all can form your own opinions. It is clear to me, and the majority agrees, Microsoft disabled it because of how VZW treats Windows Phone.

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Tidbits
Legend

Because you guys are biased. The fact remains MS could have done it on their own. They chose not to. The fact remains if they made it work on Verizon and had band 13 Verizon has no choice but to accept it since all devices approved for band 13 by the FCC must work on their network if all the network compatibility is there. They use GSM authentication protocols and not the old CDMA protocols. There's PLENTY of  documentation on this. Your podcast friends if they actually researched it they could have easily found it especially your former Verizon tech friend.  Microsoft chose to not pay the licensing on their own and would rather some other carrier pay for it as to why they disabled it. MS knows they probably wouldn't sell enough to pay the licensing on their own as to why they disabled it on their own let alone push it through the FCC.

I will put money down if MS actually put it in it would be on Verizon. You know how stupid the argument is that MS did it to smite Verizon? Do you have any inkling what that means? They want to hurt Verizon at expense to their fans who are "forced" to use Verizon due to coverage. Not to mention those that are tied to CDMA carriers and MVNO carriers. Just some food for thought.

Stop thinking with emotions and think rationally.  It was a business decision with future plans. This was a stop gap phone to get a product out until they can release their new line of phones under the surface branding. This is where if anything MS will go all in and be able to get an unlocked Surface that will work just like the iphones, Motorola, and Nexus devices.

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SickFreak
Specialist - Level 1
Tidbits
Legend

Bunch of bull. Even the FCC papers completely tears that apart. Simply the 950/XL was never tested with CDMA and EVDO let alone band 13 proves it was never intended for a CDMA carrier.

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ShadowRider
Enthusiast - Level 3

I too am looking to upgrade after 12 years on VZW and 8 years on a Palm Treo with Win Mobile 6.1 Pro.  it's reached a point that I'm going to "need" to upgrade in order to do anything more that call and basic text.  However, I've been waiting for the next gen to sync with the ease that I have now with my pc and outlook.  It looks like it's time (I've been monitoring the MS Community on the subject), but for years I've found the WinPhone offerings on Verizon to be saaaaaadddd, verrry saaaaad and support on the subject to be nonexistent.  When I switched to VZW from AT&T it was because of coverage, which for me is now almost equal in the areas I travel, so when the 950's are out, it's time to reconsider my service provider.  Loyalty seems to be a one way street.  I've lost all benefits of staying as VZW has continually and consistently stripped them away.  Better deals are offered elsewhere for switching, as well as better hardware.

That first Customer Support response is a classic.  Plenty of text with no substance.  Not one piece of actual information was offered.  All it says to me is "we want your money, but have no reason for you to stay".

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JW_Verizon
Enthusiast - Level 2

I'm at a crossroads. My contract was up in September and I've been waiting for the 950 announcement.  I love my Windows ecosystem.  My 928 has been great as has my Verizon service. Verizon's Windows Phone offerings have been shrinking and I don't think they are interested in supporting Win Phone users. The network is great, but AT&T has adequate service in my area lacking in only one or two spots I frequent. I considered switching to the Note 5 but I'm already comfortable with my ecosystem and if I'm going to spend $700 for a phone, it might make more sense to go with what I know (the windows phone). I'm giving serious consideration to switching carriers when the 950 is available. Can anyone share their AT&T experience with me?

lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

Unless something happens between now and January, then there is no other choice but to move onto the other provider's ecosystem. 

But, if you're still at crossroads by then, good luck making a decision, ...I've heard of some people keeping a phone for the network they need, and a fun or business phone, but if that's not possible either, again good luck!!!

JW_Verizon
Enthusiast - Level 2

Sorry I hijacked this thread.  I should have posted this as a new question/topic.  I can't figure out how to delete my original message. Sorry for the duplication.

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lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

You only have so many hours after a post, to UnPost it. 

I'm not sure how to delete after that either.

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SickFreak
Specialist - Level 1

Don't hold out any hope for the Lumia.  I wonder if one of the other OEMs will offer something, but we won't know until VZW announces it, and considering that it's Windows....

lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

Thanks for the hope and sympathy.  When all my devices are Windows, except for a dusty Linux box... it makes sense to have them all in alignment that way for me.  Love the new Remote Desktop App on my Windows Phone too - thank you Microsoft!!

Ya, hey cool screen name!  SickFreak.  Nice.

dellkeys
Enthusiast - Level 2

I am very dissatisfied with Verizon's Windows phone choices.  I will be investigating AT & T coverage in my area, if Verizon continues to ignore it's Windows 10 phone users with no high-end offerings!.

InfantryVet
Newbie

I have already investigated AT&T and chosen a plan.  As soon as they are available I will be buying a new Lumia.  If that means leaving Verizon, then so be it.  It's not my fault if they can't/won't offer the latest and greatest devices.

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Tidbits
Legend

MS isn't talking to any carriers for these phones. They openly stated this. So doesn't matter Verizon won't get it even if they wanted to. So move to AT&T or buy unlocked and pick any GSM carrier.

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lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

Ya, I was going to the store earlier this year to get that beefy Windows Phone, only to realize - yet again - Verizon keeps making bad decisions in their product lineup.  Great phones either way!  So I went middle-class citizen on Windows Phone - Lumia, and again had a much more fulfilling experience on my phone in texting, calls, pictures, reliability, all of it. 

Anyway - I hear ya on the AT&T choice.  Smart move.

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vzw_customer_support
Customer Service Rep

dellkeys,


it saddens us to hear you mention you'll be investigating. This is not what we want any of our valued customers to do. We've sent you a private message in your inbox. Let's look into options.


KatiM_VZW
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If my response answered your question please click the �Correct Answer� button under my response. This ensures others can benefit from our conversation. Thanks in advance for your help with this!!

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lsuperhero
Enthusiast - Level 3

KatiM_VZW,

Believe me, we are all sad.  Loosing a family member is never easy,  but what else can we do to convince Verizon that keeping Microsoft around is a good thing? 

In a competitor's market, it's never just the one or the two phones, it's about lots of options, and having THREE that compete makes it wildfire fun for the customers.  Imagine if you had 3 options to keep your customers bouncing around in your Verizon ecosystem, instead of just the .. well honestly it's never been two options, lol.  I'll let whoever reads that last sentence assume their phone is the best. 

L