It's being reported that Verizon is planning to actively block the upcoming Microsoft Lumia 950XL from its network. Why can't you play nice like AT&T?
That's okay, since I can't get the phone that I want, and cell networks are all the same here in the SF Bay Area, I will be forced to move out 4 lines to AT&T.
They are blocking it because they do not sell it and can't control the apps installed. It doesn't matter its supposed to be an open network which should work with any (compatible) phone - it's verizon's way or the highway
Move your lines. Move them immediately. Verizon will only care when it starts to hurt them financially
I wish the FCC got involved here. This is B.S. that Verizon is BLOCKING phones from being on their network. It's been proven that Verizon told Microsoft that they would not activate this phone on their network. SO Microsoft had to disable the bands to avoid disappointed customers or possible lawsuits.
Everyone who wants a 950 or 950XL should file a complaint with the FCC. Verizon's policies are that of 10 years ago, in the GLOBAL market you buy a phone, then you pick your carrier. We should be able to buy a phone and pick our carrier PERIOD.
Verizon, get your crap together here allow Microsoft to enable the bands for your network and allow US the choice to use the PHONES OF OUT CHOICE. Verizon just wants to line their pockets more forcing you to use their phones.
I've been with Verizon for almost 15 years now and have seen this crap OVER AND OVER. Why should we wait 6-8 months for you to Verizonize a phone (Adware, and Verizon crap that most people don't use) and allow it on your network?
I hope the FCC is looking at this and does a MAJOR fine to Verizon to end this 10+ year old policy. It's just dumb today, Verizon move with the times...
FCC isn't going to do anything.
Microsoft ADMITTED they didn't talk to anyone but AT&T. Microsoft also didn't put all the things needed to work on Verizon on their own with Band 13. So there is no block C clause.
Tidbits
Prove where you saw that information, AS SAID in your other thread where you seem to be just bashing Windows Phone (Must be an Android or iOS user).
It was clearly said that Microsoft TALKED to Verizon, and Verizon didn't want anything to do with them and would BLOCK the 950 and 950XL from their network if Microsoft enabled the bands...
Lol me bashing windows phone? What have you been reading? Link the comments where I bashed the platform. Did you just skim through my posts?
Any please site this source of your that MS talked to Verizon and that Verizon said they blocked it.
Like I said before if it were true then the FCC. Would have been involved. They are not and hearsay FCC won't bother it. The fact remains to date any unlocked device that complies with Verizon bands and has band 13 can be put on their network and Verizon can't stop them.
Read through that and follow the links..
http://www.windowscentral.com/verizon-reportedly-blocking-new-microsoft-lumia-950
If it was that link you linked then I will tell you to stop listening to them and they are using it purely for click bait. Verizon has not authenticated that way for LTE devices since at least 4 years ago. They actually had problems with it with a lot of their devices because of it. Here you go an article from 4 years ago about the scheme Verizon changed to. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12/19/this-is-why-your-verizon-galaxy-nexus-or-other-4g-lte-vzw-ph...
They switched away from CDMA authentication for LTE device. You no longer need the ECID to use the device on the network. However you still need it to activate a Sim card (this is still true for AT&T and T-Mobile). If you don't believe thia is the same for GSM carriers. I ask you to buy the unlocked 950 and go to a GSM carrier don't have a rep activate your sim. Call customer care to activate it. They'll ask for your IMEI every time.
FYI I have said multiple times I will buy a 950. I like the OS. I'm just saying MS chose not to put the support for Verizon on their own accord. John Legere said themselves that they were interested but MS didn't bother to even talk to them. I am looking for the article where spokesperson from MS said that was correct in what Legere said. It's so cluttered it's a pain.
What someone will need to do is get a 950 or 950 XL and put a Verizon SIM in the phone that is already activated and working on another Verizon phone. Report what happens then.
So it's not Verizon at all. What's the point of this whole post?
That podcast shows the old way Verizon used to activate. It's completely click bait for Windows phone fans. If the person who did actually researched he'd find out Verizon no longer authenticates using CDMA anymore and the reason they no longer offer 3G devices. The 950/XL doesn't have band 13 to give it Block C protection let alone all of the required Verizon bands, and technology support (FCC documents shows no testing and no licensing).
A lot of windows phone fans are just gobbling it up.
Do you work for Verizon?
No, but I follow block C rules closely. If a device is protected by block C it will work on Verizon. Verizon can't stop the device.
See
Nexus 6
All unlocked iPhones that support band 13.
Moto X 2015
These devices with an activated sim will say the device is not a Verizon device and work. The system does not know the ID like the most recent article being passed around is clamoring about. Verizon changed their system 4 years ago and also stopped offering CDMA based devices around that time (unless you count basic phones).
Microsoft already went on record multiple times after John Legere called them out for lying. He specifically said they had interest and would love to carry the 950 but MS isn't talking to anyone and gave it to AT&T. MS press people then admitted it and said it was true. Then they said it is a shorter short term thing and plans something for the long term. This gets me to believe the 950/XL are short term stop gap devices to showcase windows 10 since they won't finish their new Surface branded phone this year. So they are going to do limited production. Under the surface name I believe they will make universal devices like some of the ones I listed. I hope that's what happens. I hate carrying multiple phones for work and home. I am device and OS agnostic.
Lol, it’s obvious by now that tidbits works for Verizon he refuses to acknowledge Verizon’s history of problems with phones other than Apple, especially Windows Phone. There are countless stories and examples of people experience with how Verizon has treated Windows Phone. The people on the pod cast are reputable people in the industry and have knowledge and contacts in tech world. You can’t simply dis-miss them because you don’t agree with them or what they say doesn’t support your points/views. The majority of Windows Phone users in regards to Verizon know Verizon plays a Major role on which phones they want and allow on their system. It is true Microsoft disabled the bands because they already know from history what Verizon does. I believe Microsoft should have gone ahead and included the CDMA bands and made a disclaimer in the packaging and on the Phone that Verizon and Sprint does not support the Phone. This way we could be the ones to pressure VZW to allow the phone in there system. Never the less, it should be clear to anyone that Verizon has to take the bulk of the blame for this. Microsoft has its part, poor Marketing, slow App Developers to name a few. But please stop trying to give VZW as pass. As stated before, most Windows Phone users just want Verizon to leave the phone alone to fail or succeed on its own without interference from Verizon and its Sales Reps. Be a little more objective at least.
If ever we had a down-vote button or a dislike....your "must work for Vzw" comment would be marked so.
Problems doesn't matter man. Fact of the matter block C allows Microsoft to do as they please and you can't deny it especially with the facts in your face. Doesn't matter what Verizon has done in the past. The rules are in place where the past doesn't matter.
You said if yourself and said you wished the did add the support with disclaimers. They could have done it, but guess what it would work... As pointed out the system is set up like GSM for LTE devices. Read the link.
All 53 windows fan boys will be switching to another carrier, realize the flaws, and be right back. There simply isn't a market for Windows devices. Didn't this same thing happen when palm switched to the palm pre and then became irrelevant?
Palm OS was a good OS. Symbian was great too. Ubuntu Touch seems promising too. BB should have stuck with their OS and just make it more competitive. I think we need more operating systems to keep them going forward and pushing boundaries.
When palm switched to the pre, I said uh oh.at first I wanted it as an upgrade to my 755p, but the fact I had to switch my plan and it was a smaller phone, had me switch to blackberry, then to android. Some companies make wrong decisions. I can't think however it's that many windows users to make even a dent in verizons bottom like, and I further think half if more of them are blowing smoke.
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