Will Verizon be carrying Windows 950 , 950XL ?
lovemywindowsphone
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Will Verizon be carrying the new Windows Lumia 950 and the 950 XL in October? 

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dexman
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If the new Windows Mobile devices are not compatible with VZW's VoLTE network, I'll probably spring for the 735. It Is priced low enough that I could purchase it outright.

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MobileGeek42
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"Regarding the upcoming Lumia 950(XL) based on the current leaked Frequency Bands

GSM  2G Bands: GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900

GSM 3G Bands:  HSDPA 850, HSDPA 900, HSDPA 1900, HSDPA 2100

GSM 4G Bands:  LTE 2100, LTE 800, LTE 1800, LTE 2600, LTE 900) , they do not have VZW frequency bands and will not able to activated on Verizon."

Official specifications from the Microsoft store

  • GSM network: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz
  • GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 296.0 kbps
  • GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps
  • WCDMA network: Band 1 (2100 MHz), Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 5 (850 MHz), Band 8 (900 MHz)
  • WCDMA max data speed DL: 42.2 Mbps (Cat 24)
  • WCDMA max data speed UL: 5.76 Mbps (Cat 6)
  • LTE FDD network: Band 1 (2100 MHz), Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 3 (1800 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 7 (2600 MHz), Band 8 (900MHz), Band 12 (700 MHz), Band 17 (700MHz), Band 20 (800MHz), Band 28 (700 MHz)
  • TD-LTE network: Band 38 (2570-2620 MHz), Band 40 (2300-2400 MHz)
  • LTE max data speed DL: 300 Mbps (Cat 6)
  • LTE max data speed UL: 50 Mbps (Cat 6)

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobile/phone/lumia950-xl/specifications/

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dexman
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Yup...The specs are a complete mismatch for Verizon Wireless and Sprint.

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Khines5705
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Lumia 950XL.jpg

So with this info, can someone tell me if an unlocked Lumia 950XL purchased from Microsoft will work on Verizon?? Thanks

primortal
Master - Level 1

No, no, no and no.

It's missing CDMA and it been cover numerous times in this very thread,

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Khines5705
Specialist - Level 1

But someone also mentioned something about 700 spectrum.

hazlgrnguy
Enthusiast - Level 3

The 700 spectrum is only for their 4G service.  A phone should have antennas for all the frequencies that Verizon uses, which the 950(XL) do not support (based on the unlocked versions on the MS website).  The 950(XL)  do not support Verizon's 3G (CDMA) network, so even if you were to theoretically have access to VZ's network, you would not get service wherever VZ doesn't have 700 MHz antennas (which is vast)

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Geebox
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NolMac
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I'm leaning towards very unlikely since it's been rumored to be universal GSM, but more and more phones are having all US major frequency models within the phone. It's actually sounding like Microsoft will sell it unlocked through the Microsoft store possibly only. I'd be surprised if not best buy too. Very similar to how Google is doing the two new Nexus phones. A lot of people are just used to buying their phone through their cell carrier. The real question is will Microsoft make a CDMA model or include CDMA, GSM, and WCDMA in all their phones. Since universal GSM is rumored along with nothing else. I don't like the odds, but since they're not likely selling it through cell companies I think there's hope. There'd be a lot of confusion for a lot of people that don't understand these things. Nor do I 100% fully understand it. This will likely be a deal breaker for me.

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dexman
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I think that CDMA vs GSM will decline in significance as VoLTE progresses. Moving voice onto the data network will allow for more phones outside of the ones VZW sells in house to be brought online.

As of now, Windows Mobile devices are not permitted onto VZW's network (it clearly states that in the discussion about what is currently permitted under BYOD). It may get to the point where VZW throws open the door, allows everyone in...but...does so with the understanding that the performance of "outside" devices will not be guaranteed by VZW.

This is similar to what the Bell System did pre-divestiture. Today the RBOCs have largely gotten away from selling telephones and any phone purchased from Best Buy or even the cheapo models sold at CVS will work well with landlines.

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Archer88
Enthusiast - Level 2

Windows mobile devices are not allowed on Verizon's network??

I currently run a Microsoft Lumia Icon on Verizon network.

It was hard to buy from Verizon because all their salespeople push Android or Apple but the Lumia Icon works great on Verizon's network. Very snappy, versatile and the camera is so far superior to iPhone 6 it's not even funny.

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Ann154
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The ones previous released with the compatible radio frequencies are allowed. It is the new announced today that don't have the radio frequencies to be compatible with the Verizon Wireless network.

I'm most definitely NOT a VZW employee. If a post answered your question, please mark it as the answer.

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Chuckles2
Newbie

Based on everything I've heard, they won't be having the 950 or 950XL.

I did hear something about Samsung supplying a windows 10 phone to Verizon.

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VerizonCustomer904
Enthusiast - Level 2

They had better

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afernandez1027
Enthusiast - Level 1

I hope they carry both the lumia 950 and 950XL, since I want to get the 950 XL for me and the 950 for my wife

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dexman
Community Leader
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We may get some answers during tomorrow's presentation.

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IAmVortigaunt
Enthusiast - Level 3

If they don't, I'm pretty sure I'm switching to ATT...and I'm grandfathered into unlimited data.  So maybe VZW will be happy to see me go.

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oshow69
Enthusiast - Level 1

Here are the specs I'm looking for:

  • 5.7-inch display with a resolution of 1440 x 2560 pixels
  • 20-megapixel rear-facing camera with optical image stabilization
  • 5-megapixel front-facing camera
  • 4K video recording
  • Octa-core ARM Cortex-A57 and ARM Cortex-A53 processors
  • 3GB of RAM
  • 3,340 mAh battery
  • Support for microSD
  • Support for wireless charging
  • USB Type-C connectivity
  • Support for Continuum
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SickFreak
Specialist - Level 1

I think the many posts and threads are pretty clear - a lot of us want a flagship @Windows10 mobile phone on Verizon.  We would like Verizon to make an announcement ASAP to let us know what its plans are regarding these devices.  If there are not going to be any devices in the near future, that's important and we customers should not be strung along in the hopes that one might show up.  If some are in the works, then we would appreciate a time frame so we don't jump to another carrier in haste.  Keeping us in the dark only frustrates your customers.

Tidbits
Legend

Microsoft can do it themselves. They don't need Verizon to do anything. Verizon doesn't need to announce a thing. That's the beauty of block C. I'd rather have carriers hands off and block C allows that.

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