Will Verizon carry the Lumina 950 and 950XL?
DonJones1963
Enthusiast - Level 2

This close to the release dates of the Microsoft phones - Lumina 950 and 950XL - someone has to know if Verizon is going to carry it.

Verizon support - are you going to carry this phone ?  If not, then I need to change my carrier.

Thanks

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Tidbits
Legend

Both will be available through the store but AT&T will be selling one of them. Either way MS said they were not talking to other carriers for the short term after John Legere called them out for lying.

Anyway this is what I believe I their long terms. Their Surface branding. Might not be these specs but the branding is what is important. They are finally limping their eggs in a single basket.

http://pocketnow.com/2015/11/02/surface-phone-intel-2016-lumias-snapdragon-820

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ChrisCalvin71
Enthusiast - Level 1

I refuse to go back to at&t.  What about Sprint or another carrier?  Any other options?

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Tidbits
Legend

Any GSM carrier whether MVNO or T-Mobile.

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dexman
Community Leader
Community Leader

T-Mobile should work. You'd have to purchase a phone from the Microsoft Store or Best Buy...take it to T-Mobile and have them activate it.

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ChrisCalvin71
Enthusiast - Level 1

Here is the million dollar question.  Microsoft is going to be selling the phones as well and they will be open.  Can/will Verizon support/activate the phones with these specs on them?

GSM network: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz

GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 296.0kbps

GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8kbps

WCDMA network: Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 8 (900MHz)

WCDMA max data speed DL: 42.2Mbps (Cat 24)

WCDMA max data speed UL: 5.76Mbps (Cat 6)

LTE FDD network: Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 17 (700MHz), Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 20 (800MHz), Band 3 (1800MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 7 (2600MHz), Band 8 (900MHz), Band 28 (700MHz), Band 12 (700MHz)

TD-LTE network: Band 38 (2570-2620MHz), Band 40 (2300-2400MHz), Band 41 partially (2555-2575 MHz)

LTE max data speed DL: 300 Mbps (Cat 6)

LTE max data speed UL: 50 Mbps (Cat 6)

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Tidbits
Legend

No it will not it doesn't not support the bands need let alone the technology.

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primortal
Master - Level 1

ChrisCalvin71 wrote:

Here is the million dollar question.  Microsoft is going to be selling the phones as well and they will be open.  Can/will Verizon support/activate the phones with these specs on them?

GSM network: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz

GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 296.0kbps

GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8kbps

WCDMA network: Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 8 (900MHz)

WCDMA max data speed DL: 42.2Mbps (Cat 24)

WCDMA max data speed UL: 5.76Mbps (Cat 6)

LTE FDD network: Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 17 (700MHz), Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 20 (800MHz), Band 3 (1800MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 5 (850MHz), Band 7 (2600MHz), Band 8 (900MHz), Band 28 (700MHz), Band 12 (700MHz)

TD-LTE network: Band 38 (2570-2620MHz), Band 40 (2300-2400MHz), Band 41 partially (2555-2575 MHz)

LTE max data speed DL: 300 Mbps (Cat 6)

LTE max data speed UL: 50 Mbps (Cat 6)

Its been answered numerous times, the specs above will not work on VZW network.  Also WCDMA != CDMA.

So until Microsoft enables CDMA and the missing LTE Bands these phones are a pipe dream on VZW network.

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junderkofler
Enthusiast - Level 1

I am with you guys as well, if Verizon does not carry the Lumia 950 & 950 XL I will be taking our service to a carrier that does.  I have been a loyal Verizon customer for a long time and this would be very disappointing.

Michael_Orozco
Enthusiast - Level 1

Typical anti windows phone response from support above, I want their flag ship phones, I have been waiting for the release.  I do not want "android" or "apple".  I know the numbers but if you have used a lumia 900 series phone you would know it is simple the best phone on the market.  I will be switching to ATT if Verizon does not carry them.  The good network isn't that much better and it's not worth the negativity towards windows phones.... you call and they try to shift you way to an android or apple phone, you go into a store and it's the same.  Honeslty like I need some 12 year old boy telling me which phone is better.  I did the research I use the product and to be honest I can't imagine using something else.  My 928 is as good today as the day I bought it.  

soxfan0723
Enthusiast - Level 1

I started looking at AT&T's and T-Mobile's pricing today. I love Verizon's coverage, but I LOVE Windows Phone more. I won't let Verizon force me into two OS options that lack the innovation that has gotten me excited about Windows in the last few years.

My next phone WILL be a Lumia 950 or the XL (need to hold each in my hand first...) so if Verizon doesn't carry, my two lines will be walking.

DougA
Enthusiast - Level 1

I will be taking my 5 lines to ATT or T-Mobile if Verizon chooses to play favorites with their devices.  I use a 928 now and the 950XL is perfect for me.

I don't think it's because of the 3% market share, that's still big money.  My guess is that Apple is tugging their (VZW) leash.  Verizon was kept out of the original iPhone release for a couple years and that is probably still a factor at play here.

I look forward to the day all carriers are out of the hardware market.  These exclusive deals only benefit the providers at the expense of the customers.  Sure, there may be worse scenarios, but I'll take my chances with greater competition any day.

wordwonk
Enthusiast - Level 1

I too have been a very satisfied Verizon customer for fifteen + years.  My most recent two-year agreement ended one year ago.  I have not purchase a new replacement because I've been waiting a whole year for the new MS flagship phone.  Now that it (Lumia 950/950XL) is out, I am ready to purchase.  However, if Verizon does not carry it, I will regrettably take my three lines to a competitor.

I have been extremely pleased with my HTC 8X, and the Windows OS.  I have a MS Surface Pro 3, which is in sync with my personal workstation, which is in sync with my Windows phone.  A GREAT CONCEPT, and it's here now.  I want to continue this with the Lumia 950XL.

DonJones1963
Enthusiast - Level 2

So I started this post back on the 6th.   As many of you, my contract with Verizon ended a few months back, but I had decided to wait until the new Win 10 phones were released, thinking Verizon would carry it.  As a person that works with Microsoft based networks, I wanted a Microsoft Windows phone to integrate with Office365 and Windows 10.  It is hear now, but the largest carrier in the country is not going to carry it from what I have read and heard.   So once ATT starts to carry the phone, I will be going to ATT. 

Verizon - I am just dump-founded that you all just dismiss your customers request.   I know Windows phone business is small now, but I believe Win10 phone is a much different phone and has huge implications for business users and those that see what is coming.

Thanks to everyone for responding and please continue to do so.

D

S_Banks
Newbie

Same as all the others above me... been a Verizon customer longer than I care to mention. Been using Windows based smart phones since WinMo early days. I love my Verizon coverage, but willing to take my two lines to AT&T for the 950XL. The cross-device ability running Windows 10 on my Desktop, Tablet, Xbox One (soon) is just too compelling.

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David_Dean_Sings

I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but C|Net, as well as Phone Arena are reporting that Verizon told Microsoft they wouldn't authenticate the 950s on their network.  MS has turned off the appropriate radio frequencies on the 950s. 

It seems to be a done deal.

I hate this, because Verizon, as awful as they can be, has the best network.  But it seems that management has always had distaste for MS products.

I'll be moving to another carrier...

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dexman
Community Leader
Community Leader

Verizon Wireless won't authenticate the 950s because the phones are not CDMA enabled.

Had Microsoft enabled CDMA, sent the phones through the certification process and paid fees to Qualcomm, VZW would have to let the phones onto the network.

If VZW blocked the 950s, the FCC would level fines on VZW and potentially revoke licenses. VZW would have to prove that the 950s would be detrimental to the VZW network in order to legally block authentication. Disinterest of devices that run on Windows wouldn't qualify them as a threat to the VZW network.

DonJones1963
Enthusiast - Level 2

I had also read that Verizon was not going to carry the new Luminas and it is not due to lack CDMA support.

Verizon management is very short-sited.   They have a great network and this my only hesitation to move but once ATT gets the phones in so they can be purchased, I am walking into Verizon to let them know and then to ATT and making the switch.   Watch as businesses move to Windows 10 phones and those that are Microsoft centric in their technology needs move as well.   We want one OS on all devices and now we have it.  Why do you think Google is going to combine Android and Chrome now.   Maybe a little concern.  I know MS has a small market share in phones, but that means there is no where to go but up.

In any case, I hope within a month to move to ATT and the Lumina 950XL.

runestrom
Enthusiast - Level 1

I like Verizon but if they won't support the Lumina 950xl I'm heading to ATT as well

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cunokyle
Enthusiast - Level 1

I will be moving all 4 of my lines to AT&T if Verizon does not carry the new Lumia devices.

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