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iPhone 13 pro preorder

I ordered two iPhone 13 pros on September 17th still waiting. I did an online chat said they’d be shipped on the 22nd of October. Now I look and it says estimated ship date of October 29th. Are they really taking this long to ship?  Seems like I see posts people getting phone when orders were placed on the 20th and after even???  When I check my order now it even still says ships September 21st lol ridiculous really!!