Everyone Stop Worrying About The iPhone 5 It's Not Coming Out This Year!

[joeymp]

Many have been saying, don't buy the Verizon iPhone 4 because in 6 months it will be outdated by the iPhone 5, this is completely false! Just because Apple has introduced a new iPhone every year doesn't mean it couldn't skip a year, I mean it's only happened 4 years in a row not 50. Think about it, Apple has a new product, the iPad, and with many other tablets trying to catch it, it is much more likely that this summer at the Apple Conference we will see an iPad 2 and a new software upgrade, iOS 4.5. Think about it the iPhone 4 has been the most successful iPhone to date and now they are introducing it to 93 million more people! I think they can survive a year without releasing a new iPhone. Also Apple mentioned that this iPhone didn't have 4G because of "current chip technology", do you really think they will have that all sorted out and ready to go in just 6 months?! No way! Apple cares too much about battery life, and their whole problem with 4G is that right now it uses too much battery life, so expect them to take another year to fix all that and test it out, remember AT&T doesn't even have a 4G network yet. The most you could expect is a price cut on the iPhone 4. However if by some miracle they do release a new iPhone this year it will not be what everybody is thinking, it will be like what the 3GS was to the 3G. It won't really add anything new at all, and your iPhone 4 will still be able to do everything that it can do. So don't be afraid, go buy the iPhone 4 February 10th, and 20 months later (October 2012) you can upgrade to the iPhone 4G, only 3 months after it will have come out.

Also I have been seeing threads of people saying that Verizon will get new iPhones in February and AT&T will get them during the summer before Verizon, this is also completely false, the only reason the iPhone is coming out right now is because Apple and Verizon wanted to make the iPhone available to it's customers as soon as possible, right when Apple's contract with AT&T was up. So this is just a special thing, after this new iPhone's will be released on both AT&T and Verizon at the same time during the summer.

[primortal]

That is just you opinion joeymp, unless you have some hard facts from Apple backing up your claims.

The lastest beta of iOS already has bits in it for iPhone 5 and iPad 2 hardware, so it's on the horizon (source).  There are rumors  that there are Apple employees already walking around with the new phone prototypes.  So don't kid yourself.

Apple is also in the business of making money and for them to skip a year of not releasing a iPhone hurts their bottom dollar.  They know there are people out there that will buy the latest gadget from them (Apple) in a heartbeat.

There is no need to release a "4G" at this time, there is hardly enough coverage in the US to warrant Apple to embrace the technology.  Most likely the next version of the iPhone will be sans the "home" button, better battery life, faster processor, larger storage capacity (64GB) and some other features only they know of.

[joeymp]

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primortal wrote:

That is just you opinion joeymp, unless you have some hard facts from Apple backing up your claims.

The lastest beta of iOS already has bits in it for iPhone 5 and iPad 2 hardware, so it's on the horizon (source).  There are rumors  that there are Apple employees already walking around with the new phone prototypes.  So don't kid yourself.

Apple is also in the business of making money and for them to skip a year of not releasing a iPhone hurts their bottom dollar.  They know there are people out there that will buy the latest gadget from them (Apple) in a heartbeat.

There is no need to release a "4G" at this time, there is hardly enough coverage in the US to warrant Apple to embrace the technology.  Most likely the next version of the iPhone will be sans the "home" button, better battery life, faster processor, larger storage capacity (64GB) and some other features only they know of.

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First of all, I think we can all agree that the home button isn't going anywhere (atleast on the iphone, the screen is too small for 4/5 finger gestures, plus you wouldn't be able to use the phone with one hand anymore), not only would that be the stupidest decision ever but every website that mentions it links it back to a site called BGR which claims they got "an exclusive tip"... sure. Also have you seen the code for the new iOS 4.3? It shows the devices: iPhone 3,3 iPhone 4,1 iPhone 4,2 iPad 2,1 iPad 2,2 and iPad 2,3 don't you think that means iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 (GSM), iPhone 4 (CDMA), iPad 2 (GSM), iPad 2 (CDMA), and iPad 2 (WiFi)? Also look at the screenshot taken from the iPad, it shows that multitouch gestures are optional, how can they be optional if you lose the home button?

Anyway, even if I'm wrong about all of this, there is no point in waiting 6 months for the next iphone because it won't really be the "next" iphone it will just be a slight update like the 3GS was, and maybe not even that, and the iPhone 4 will be able to do everything that it can do, and the worse part is that you will not be able to upgrade to the "real" next iphone (2012) because you will have signed a new 2 YEAR contract! Atleast if you get the iPhone 4 on February 10th, you will be able to upgrade in 20 months (October 2012) only 3 months after the iPhone 2012 is released.

[primortal]

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joeymp wrote:

First of all, I think we can all agree that the home button isn't going anywhere (atleast on the iphone, the screen is too small for 4/5 finger gestures, plus you wouldn't be able to use the phone with one hand anymore), not only would that be the stupidest decision ever but every website that mentions it links it back to a site called BGR which claims they got "an exclusive tip"... sure. Also have you seen the code for the new iOS 4.3? It shows the devices: iPhone 3,3 iPhone 4,1 iPhone 4,2 iPad 2,1 iPad 2,2 and iPad 2,3 don't you think that means iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 (GSM), iPhone 4 (CDMA), iPad 2 (GSM), iPad 2 (CDMA), and iPad 2 (WiFi)? Also look at the screenshot taken from the iPad, it shows that multitouch gestures are optional, how can they be optional if you lose the home button?

Anyway, even if I'm wrong about all of this, there is no point in waiting 6 months for the next iphone because it won't really be the "next" iphone it will just be a slight update like the 3GS was, and maybe not even that, and the iPhone 4 will be able to do everything that it can do, and the worse part is that you will not be able to upgrade to the "real" next iphone (2012) because you will have signed a new 2 YEAR contract! Atleast if you get the iPhone 4 on February 10th, you will be able to upgrade in 20 months (October 2012) only 3 months after the iPhone 2012 is released.

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Granted removing the home button from the iPhone is a bit of a stretch but you never know with Apple. The versioning in the iOS is -1 of version of the actual hardware, iPhone 3,x (code) = iPhone 4 (hardware).  iPhone 4,x (code) = iPhone 5 (hardware).  If read in the engadget article it states, "two new-generation iPhones (4,1 and 4,2) and three iPads (2,1; 2,2; and 2,3)."  That mean iPhone 5 and iPad 2 is coming to AT&T and Verizon

It's very plausible that it could be something like a 4GS but when Apple increments the version number by a whole number in the code it normally means a new hardware devices not an updated one.

I'm just scratching my head on why Verzion would announce the iPhone availability when the release of a new iPhone is going to happen in the matter of a few months.  Why not just wait till July and announce the availability?  Is it just greed or stupidity on Verizon/Apple part?

[joeymp]

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primortal wrote:

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joeymp wrote:

First of all, I think we can all agree that the home button isn't going anywhere (atleast on the iphone, the screen is too small for 4/5 finger gestures, plus you wouldn't be able to use the phone with one hand anymore), not only would that be the stupidest decision ever but every website that mentions it links it back to a site called BGR which claims they got "an exclusive tip"... sure. Also have you seen the code for the new iOS 4.3? It shows the devices: iPhone 3,3 iPhone 4,1 iPhone 4,2 iPad 2,1 iPad 2,2 and iPad 2,3 don't you think that means iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 (GSM), iPhone 4 (CDMA), iPad 2 (GSM), iPad 2 (CDMA), and iPad 2 (WiFi)? Also look at the screenshot taken from the iPad, it shows that multitouch gestures are optional, how can they be optional if you lose the home button?

Anyway, even if I'm wrong about all of this, there is no point in waiting 6 months for the next iphone because it won't really be the "next" iphone it will just be a slight update like the 3GS was, and maybe not even that, and the iPhone 4 will be able to do everything that it can do, and the worse part is that you will not be able to upgrade to the "real" next iphone (2012) because you will have signed a new 2 YEAR contract! Atleast if you get the iPhone 4 on February 10th, you will be able to upgrade in 20 months (October 2012) only 3 months after the iPhone 2012 is released.

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Granted removing the home button from the iPhone is a bit of a stretch but you never know with Apple. The versioning in the iOS is -1 of version of the actual hardware, iPhone 3,x (code) = iPhone 4 (hardware).  iPhone 4,x (code) = iPhone 5 (hardware).  If read in the engadget article it states, "two new-generation iPhones (4,1 and 4,2) and three iPads (2,1; 2,2; and 2,3)."  That mean iPhone 5 and iPad 2 is coming to AT&T and Verizon

It's very plausible that it could be something like a 4GS but when Apple increments the version number by a whole number in the code it normally means a new hardware devices not an updated one.

I'm just scratching my head on why Verzion would announce the iPhone availability when the release of a new iPhone is going to happen in the matter of a few months.  Why not just wait till July and announce the availability?  Is it just greed or stupidity on Verizon/Apple part?

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If the version of the iOS is -1 of the actual hardware, then why is the iPad 2: 2,1; 2,2; 2,3? Also, even if Apple is going to release a new iPhone in a matter of months, the reason they are releasing an iPhone 4 right now is because they wanted to start selling an iPhone on Verizon as soon as the AT&T contract was up. Why wait 6 months to make money when you can do it right now? This is also why Apple made sure that the contract they signed with Verizon was not exclusive, that way they could start selling to T-Mobile and Sprint whenever they wanted, they didn't want to make the same mistake they made with AT&T.

[AZSALUKI]

i've read in a few places that there are already iphones with no home "button." also, i think apple is MORE likely to release an ip5 this summer (at least for at&t) because it would be one last chance for at&t to keep anyone who is considering the switch. if they could get apple to give them an ip5 before vzn gets it (even if it's only a matter of months), they can keep another handful of customers. and i'm no mathematician.....but every year for four years seems like a likely trend to me (at least for at&t to get the ip5).....i don't need 50 years as a sample size.....that's just silly. jobs is a bright fellow. he's not going to pass on a launch of millions more iphones to sell for another year. heck....if nothing else, he could make MINOR tweeks and change the color and call it the ip5 and sell MILLIONS of units this summer to the apple fanboys. why would he wait another entire year?

[primortal]

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joeymp wrote:

If the version of the iOS is -1 of the actual hardware, then why is the iPad 2: 2,1; 2,2; 2,3? Also, even if Apple is going to release a new iPhone in a matter of months, the reason they are releasing an iPhone 4 right now is because they wanted to start selling an iPhone on Verizon as soon as the AT&T contract was up. Why wait 6 months to make money when you can do it right now? This is also why Apple made sure that the contract they signed with Verizon was not exclusive, that way they could start selling to T-Mobile and Sprint whenever they wanted, they didn't want to make the same mistake they made with AT&T.

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Not sure for what ever reason the version nomenclature for the iPhone is different than the iPad. The iPhones started selling on AT&T network in 2007 so the mysterious exclusive 5 year contract would have expired in 2012. Yeah, it just boils down to greed on both parties, and being the CDMA version of the phone is done why limit Apple to just one CDMA network  I don't think it was a mistake per-say with AT&T, Apple went with AT&T after Verizon turned them down.

[primortal]

Some more about the iPhone 5, taken from engadget

But all of these moves are leading up to the iPhone 5 -- a completely redesigned handset -- which our sources say is on track for a summer launch. Right now, the device is being tested discreetly by senior staff at Apple (strictly on campus only). We don't have much info on the phone at this point, but our understanding is that the new device will be a total rethink from a design standpoint and will be running atop Apple's new A5 CPU (a Cortex A9-based, multi-core chip). This device, like the iPad 2, will feature a Qualcomm chipset that does triple duty as the CDMA / GSM / UMTS baseband processor -- from what we hear there's no LTE in the mix at this point.

[joeymp]

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primortal wrote:

Some more about the iPhone 5, taken from engadget

But all of these moves are leading up to the iPhone 5 -- a completely redesigned handset -- which our sources say is on track for a summer launch. Right now, the device is being tested discreetly by senior staff at Apple (strictly on campus only). We don't have much info on the phone at this point, but our understanding is that the new device will be a total rethink from a design standpoint and will be running atop Apple's new A5 CPU (a Cortex A9-based, multi-core chip). This device, like the iPad 2, will feature a Qualcomm chipset that does triple duty as the CDMA / GSM / UMTS baseband processor -- from what we hear there's no LTE in the mix at this point.

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Well this is interesting, none of it makes sense, but it is from engadget, not some unknown site named BGR. First, if the iPad 2 will feature CDMA & GSM in one device, why in that code do they have 3 models, you would assume this would reduce it to 2 models (3G+WiFi & WiFi). Unless the rule that the version of the iOS is -1 of the actual hardware holds true and that code was referring to an iPad 1 CDMA, GSM, and WiFi. The higher resolution screen on the iPad makes sense, but sounds very expensive! A true Retina Display would have to be 2400 x 1800 (300 ppi on a 10in. 4:3 screen)! Also two words, SD slot?!?! Come on. And it seems odd that just after they introduce the A4 processor they jump straight to an A5 processor, why? The A4 seemed powerful enough, does the iPhone 4 ever slow down (not talking about when 80 apps are running in the background, that's RAM). Apple usually doesn't have the latest and greatest hardware because 1. they soak up too much battery life & 2. Their software seems to get much more out of hardware than others, therefore not needing amazing hardware. I mean their macbooks have very mediocre hardware especially for the price, but rarely do you see them slow down or take forever to load a program. They still offer Intel Core 2 Duo processors in their Macbook pros.

[clwguy]

and you know this how? lol

sorry but can't know that unless you are one of a handful of Apple and Verizon upper execs