I see that a lot of peoples dates have been changing, but since I ordered the iPhone (9/9/16) it seems that the ship date is still the same. Is this really going to be the ship date? I feel that its a very far away and it seems unrealistic. Its going to be almost 3 months from when I ordered the phone to when I actually get it. Below is what I got from "My orders":
Order placed 09/09/2016
Your order is currently being processed. Please check back later.
Expected Ship Date
Same for me, Nov 23rd
im really hoping that's worst case scenario. Seems like October people are getting theirs a couple weeks earlier, so I wouldn't expect anything for another couple weeks..