@spacedebrismark wrote:
unfortunatly, tivo woulnt help you on this issue. the problem is that the guide data provided to verizon does not contain the programming flag to indicate the proper status of the show. A tivo connected to verizon would still pull the same info as the verizon dvr. this is not a hardware issue. its a problem with the guide data. Blame to be shared between Verizon and the program provider. Problem is that verizons guide "form" that is filled out and sent by the providers is not as standardized as some of the other companies so if the provider doesnt fill it in correctly the flag either doest appear or always appears. And on verizon's end, no one goes in and checks to verify the info is correct. And since tivo would contact the verizons guide data (just puts it in Tivo's format) it would still pull the incorrect data and give you the same issue.
This is completely wrong.
Cable providers deliver their guide in a proprietary format. At this time, no one can use a cable company's guide data except for the cable company itself. Verizon licenses guide data from FYI Television -- the cheapest and least reliable of the available guide data providers -- and delivers that information to their boxes using the data connection; no other boxes can use this guide information. This is one of the reasons we don't have more cable STBs and DVRs at retail --- CE vendors must provide the guide data themselves, and no source of free guide data exists for use by commercial products.
TiVo and Moxi license guide data from Tribune Media -- the best of the available guide data providers -- and delivers that information to every box using their own Internet servers. Each night (or morning), the TiVo connects to those servers and downloads 14 days of program information using your choice of wired ethernet, wireless ethernet, or a phone line.
It is possible you read something about true2way and were confused by that; true2way boxes will use the cable company's guide information. True2way devices use the same CableCards as the TivoHD and Moxi, but they also incorporate a bidirectional hardware receiver and a Java virtual machine. True2way devices download and run a Java version of the cable company's STB/DVR software; this allows them to offer the cable company's own interface, program guide (including guide information), and VOD. Next year, users should be able to purchase true2way DVRs for $300-$400 with greater capacities and support for external storage. Unfortunately, Verizon FiOS has no plans to support true2way, so discussion of those products is academic.
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Message Edited by KenAF on 05-18-2009 03:03 AM
